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Biopsy aftermath and Benign Breast Conditions questions

Psychfan
Psychfan Member Posts: 14
edited October 2018 in Benign Breast Conditions

My biopsy went easier than I expected it to be wore a cat mask to it ! The only thing I felt was the quick lidocaine sting that made my feet jump !

I did have severe anxiety before that I was getting nauseauated fearing it was going to be painful and for so long instead it wasn't painful and was shorter than I had expected it to be .

My sxs Right after the Biopsy Nauseau, Very sore shoulder , burning in the sternum area and at the top of the breast bone, tired , and a bit light headed.

Tues Severe pain in the stomach , nauseau still , had twinges in breast area

Wed Period arrived Stomach cramps settled down, tired wanted to continue to sleep after 9 but still had to wake up,as I had stuff to do .

Thurs,not much appetite still made my son his b-day dinner with his friends even tho his b-day isn't until in a week but this was the only day they could make it as they be out of town for awhile like til the mid August . I was tired and falling to sleep almost on the computer after his friends left . Bruising started to appear . Heart burn feeling this day right in the lower part below of the sternum .

Fri Lower part of Armpit is sore it also makes a clicking sound when I move my left arm up and i am very very very tired today . I also haven't eaten much just ate some cheese with guacomole , nutri grain and some egg sandwich for dinner . Today was the first day after the biopsy that I didn't wake up like at 6 am and then fall back asleep as i slept straight thru today ! I do have a bit of a headache

Sat I'm still feeling pretty tired and do have a bit heartburn feeling below sternum area only 5 days out of biopsy site . First day I slept to 10 am after losing sleep on Monday due to a mistake a clinic ride made so I barely had any sleep on Monday due to that along with nerves keeping me up that nite then I fell asleep that day at 6am thinking I would get 5 hrs of sleep that day but only ended up with 2 because they called up at 8 saying are you up ! I'm coming at 10 ( why in the world wake me up at 8 am when you say your not going to show up until 10 ? Then continue to call at like 8:30 sharing that I had the wrong time and it was at 1030 and that she be here at 10 to take me to it . Then I call up n go oh of course it's still the same time as in 1:30 . So here I couldn't fall back to sleep because after being woken up due to a mistake by that person then trying to get back to sleep calls kept coming in one after another .

Mon nite Trouble getting to sleep woke up on Tues Morning at 6 am . Fell Back Asleep at 730

Tues Morning Fully Awake at like 9 ,Tues Nite Trouble getting to sleep until like 3:30 . Woke up at 6 am on Wednesday morning fell back to sleep at 7 am Wed morning

Wed Forced to wake up at 8:30 am because my grocery transportation was coming at 9 am to take me shopping since I don't drive and I felt I could sleep even longer than 830

Thurs and Fri morning I actually slept straight to 9 am on Thursday and Fri . Still Thursday & Fri Nite Pretty tired at nite time .

I did get my biopsy results back yesterday they said from the core needle biopsy it's benign fibrofatty tissue with fat necrosis and rare calcium oxalate crystals on my left side so I'm wondering what you guys think of those results?

I don't remember having any trauma or surgery to that area in the past . I did do a lot of on demand breast feeding for a extended period of time all the way until my son was about to start school . He automatically weaned himself off after that . Which was quite a long time ago as he is a high school kid now. I did have a lot of surgeries as a kid with having lots of sticky stuff stuck to me on my chest so if fat necrosis of the breast is due to surgery trauma would that make my biopsy site have trouble healing or forming more fat necrosis because of the biopsy ?

Also , is it more likely for the other breast as in my right side to have the same thing that my left side ended up getting diagnosed with even tho my right side didn't get biopsied but it did show calcifications on my right side which the dr figured they were more likely benign without a biopsy on the right side .

I know I'm just 5 days into recovery and I am happy that I don't have cancer but for those who have had biopsy when were you guys more up to par ?

Comments

  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Neon Congrats on your B9 result . It's a pain to have a cycle so soon after the biopsy . I'm already 4 days from nearly hitting it being 3 weeks since my biopsy been done . Finally after 2 weeks I been able to lay on my front without having me squinting in pain or going ugh ! I do get burning in my breasts like a heartburn type of twinges which I have read that's the nerves reworking up but it's annoying . Even tho I do sometimes get some cringing pain still but not as bad as it had been but it's bad when it acts up when I'm out shopping so if I need a urge to comfort my sore spot I go run to the bathroom stall in the grocery store then go back to my shopping trying to make it more comfortable.

    Plus, there isn't much information out there on B9 conditions and you wish that doctors who describe the type of b9 condition go in the report state more in definition what it would mean and if it would mean that more fat necrosis would grow in my breast after getting biopsied and would my right one be more likely to have it . I'm hoping when i have to go in for my female exam the next time maybe he would be more defining of what fat necrosis is and how in the world did it get damaged inside

    As I have read that people along the lines that have to take a calcium supplement along with their vitamins it's more likely to form Calcium Oxalate in their blood stream which can appear as calicifications on any part of xrays and that some people with thyroid issues are more likely to have that issue because thyroid issues can affect Calcium issues especially if needed to be removed. That was on a thyroid group that I have been on where I read that information and I take Calcium Supplement because I have no thyroid so I started thinking could it be the cause of my Calicifications because I have to take extra Calcium ?

  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    It's like in our mind we had a biopsy because of a belief of an bad abnormality in our breast and it's a mix of a normal abnormality but not a bad abnormality but it can lead us to big time confusion that's for sure because it's like why aren't we sent some paper work to our home with explanation of these b9 conditions or to go back for like a follow up after they did a procedure on you to check for proper healing but instead it's like for some come back in a year for your next mammo !

    Plus, the doctor who did the biopsy wasn't the one who called about the b9 result it was just the front desk going oh your result is B9 come back in a year . I wouldn't have known anything if it wasn't for the pathology report online .

    Then you wonder with this biopsy going did it create damage to my breast that I'm going to start getting other things and with the off & on pain from the biopsy healing it's like why couldn't they know better without having to injure my breast as you would think with them being around so many types that you would assume it would be like why can't they tell by looking as wouldn't all those things look the same when they are same different types of B9 ones . Now we are wondering did they make the normal abnormality worse or added more issues to your breast .

    People think oh yay you get a B9 result now you can relax and forget about it . Easier Said than done because your still dealing with biopsy healing and stuck with questions that have no answers.

    Plus there isn't many people around that go oh I have the same thing . If a few have a questions of what they had before it's like they shared about it a few years back now those people are not around online posting since they didn't get answers either .



  • Finally i find a thread i can relate to that people are actually still posting on! I had a sterotacric biopsy 4 1/2 weeks ago and am in more discomfort now than ever. It is nerve wracking! Add my family history and ATM genetic mutation, and even the benign results are not reassuring because I have no explanation for my years of pain, itching, change in breast size and shape, or the assymmetry they found on mammogram. Given my genetic risk, I am on a schedule of MRIs alternating with mammograms so that I have some imaging every 6 months, although nothing ever showed the lumps in my breast until I had a CT due to car accident, then because of chest pain and risk of blood clots. It showed enlarged lymph nodes on the same side as my breast issues. So my BS scheduled the mammo that showed the asymmetry. Was told maybe it was residual bruising from the car accident, follow up in 6 months. I wasn't comfortable waiting that long, so they decided to do another one after 2 months. It was unchanged and said the bruising should have resolved by then if it was fron the car accident in February. And it was upgraded from bi-rads 3 to bi-rads 4, so they did stereotactic biopsy taking 6 samples 4 weeks ago...all benign! I followed directions and felt better after a few days but lately I am experiencing considerable pain in my breast and a lot of aching in the axilla. I had thought maybe I had an infection brewing 3 weeks ago from it as I was extremely run down but no fever, heat, redness or swelling. Just pain. Incredibly tender, insanely itchy at times, and horribly achy in my armpit. Lumpier breast, too.

  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Sorry to hear of your accident .For sure it's so conflicting to understand like go when I had pain beforehand and it's nothing or its just part of the fibrocystic stuff you like just going how in the world am I going to stop being sore off and on which for some people they say they healing may take up to at least 3 to 6 months after the biopsy was done.. Then sometimes your mind goes and plays with you going did they use a sterile clean needle for the biopsy going after the biopsy did they transfer someone else cancer cells into me or did they injure something else in there . Also, many times the pain could actually be caused by the little titanium markers that are used to mark the biopsy spot if the pain is severe or even last more than 6 months .

    Many people may not understand how in the world could a titanium marker could cause a problem especially when its so small sadly #1 it can actually create a infection caused cellulitis I should know as because I had jaw plates with jaw screws made of titanium when I had a jaw surgery many years ago well after many years later my face would be swelling up , be so painful and I would have the face of the stay pufft marshmallow guy from ghost busters as that's how swollen my face ended up being. I was put on antibiotics but kept on having recurring issues with it so then my doctor said I will send you to your oral surgeon because maybe it's those jaw plates/screws causing problems so I got those out on my right side then later on my left side decided to do the same thing so had to get those out and I never ended up with any more swelling again on either of my jaw and I known for some people that those markers have been able to migrate like in a area where it's not supposed to be could be hitting a nerve area or a muscle area .

    So I requested them to not put any biopsy marker in me as I didn't want to deal with issues like I did with my jaw and they said they didn't put any markers in me so I hope they followed thru with my wishes .

  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    It sounds like you have mastitis . It's usually pretty common to happen to nursing/breastfeeding moms but can also happen to women who are not breastfeeding and even men. Need a 10 day course Antibiotic with it.

    I have theories of how some people may be more prone to infection after biopsy like depends on what part of the location is where they took the sample , how many samples they took out , how deep they had to go with the sample , where the biopsy markers are and how many are in there from the sample and how much did you bleed afterwards and like as I said even for some people can't believe that the markers could be the cause of infections especially with women getting infections to seem like it goes away after treatment but then returns again more than three times then it's more likely the biopsy markers.

    That is just my opinion due to me having infections that would coming back one after the other in my jaw from the plates and screws that are made up of the same material that the markers used to place in you for you to track your biopsy to know they already did that area for that biopsy one. After the plates and the screws were removed from my jaw no more infections in my jaw .

    They never share what kind of biopsy markers are going to be placed just when you look into it biopsy all you see is Markers placed in you after the biopsy so they can track where the biopsy was done and if you want to know what kind of biopsy markers are used you need to put in search for biopsy markers used as I was lucky I found out they were that kind because to remove them it requires more of a surgical biopsy to get them out .

    As, with me I have the burning sensation off and on in my left side nearly feels like I have heartburn happen but then sometimes it radiates to my back which I also have twinges that come and go which I figure are probably from the nerves that are affected after the biopsy that make it affect the other nerves around it as in create muscle tension in shoulders and the upper back.

    Also, there is non metal markers out there that can be use for breast biopsy to track the spot of where the biopsy is I just now put in the google search engine of natural biopsy markers that comes up with many natural non metal markers names. It also seems by me reading the non metal markers that they have better chance of staying put after the biopsy than moving like those metal ones


    Symptoms

    Signs and symptoms of mastitis can appear suddenly. They may include:

    • Breast tenderness or warmth to the touch
    • Breast swelling
    • Thickening of breast tissue, or a breast lump
    • Pain or a burning sensation continuously or while breast-feeding
    • Skin redness, often in a wedge-shaped pattern
    • Generally feeling ill
    • Fever of 101 F (38.3 C) or greater
  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Many times people may not be aware of markers ending up being placed in the breast site after biopsy which until after the doctor gives a paper saying share with your radiologist that you have markers in place as the one nurse was ready to share with me about the markers on the paper but then the doctor goes she doesn't need that paper because I didn't get any markers even tho the paper is on my online medical record which makes me question at times if they ignored my wishes hopefully not but I shall find out when it comes time for my next mammogram and if they ignored my wishes I can have every right to sue them because I told that to my mom and to my other help and to my case manager . So , I even wrote to my internal medicine doctors online requesting I didn't want those markers in me .

    So if you have a online medical record they should have some information listed if you had some markers placed and even many doctors even after much infections or even when people suffer from a metal marker migrating they have trouble believing that markers could be that of the cause after all it took me at least about 1 yr after having infections in my jaw that would come back my internal medicine doctor goes hmm I don't know what's causing your problem maybe it might be a screw loose in your jaw plate and referred me to see my oral surgeon which then goes ok we will remove them and then after that one side was better then the other side ended up getting issues which they go okay your having the same issues as this other side so we will get them out.

    Even with me having thyroid issues as some thyroid medicines can also contain a metal type ingredient which when I had this one thyroid medicine it was making me have terrible jaw pain, terrible ear pain, I had non stop running noses my cheeks were full , my ears were plugged so I go can have my rectangle thyroid pill instead because i'm thinking the circle pill caused me issues and when one pharmacist tried to give me a circle pill with going with raised eye brows like going that can't be possible and that is the only one available and I go i believe it's possible that it's causing me serious issues with my circle thyroid pill so i go i will pay for any other medicine for my thyroid just not have me use the circle one they go ok and made me my regular ones.

  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Ne0n -

    Glad your on antibiotics hope it heals you up fast did they give you the 10 day course antibiotics or is the 7 day course antibiotics ? What kind ? It's so scary when certain spots appear new even areas near my breast it seems like i have lumpier chest muscle tissues like above the breast near the upper shoulder that is more closer to the spot where I had the lidocaine shot but still its a bit weird there tho and half of me is like did they hit a muscle ?

    It would be nice to start feeling more normal these days .

  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Ne0n-

    Glad things are going a little better with you hopefully after period is gone you will feel better. To me 5 day course is a bit too short it should be a 10 day course of antibiotic .

    Did the doctor ever share with you what type of Fibroadenoma you have ? As I have read there are 3 different types like simple , complex or the giant /juvenile one those ones are usually found in teenage girls.

    What I have read that they keep an eye on the Fibroadenoma to make sure it doesn't grow if it does grow they remove it with surgery .

    I don't like to wear bras either so I only wear them out in public or when my son has friends over but usually at home don't wear them or if its in winter time I don't wear them just wear my coat over my shirt.

    Doctors usually recommend the cold cabbage leaf for to reduce swelling from infection or for mothers who want to dry up milk after giving birth. You could always just get a leaf of the cabbage green is the right kind. Lay down then put the leaf over your breast like a breast cover up .

  • innerphreak1
    innerphreak1 Member Posts: 1

    I found a lump and went to doc, I then went and got a mammo and sono cause I have thick skin. anyway a couple weeks later I am told I need a biopsy so they do that and I am told its not cancer to go to a specialist. so I do and the specialist says I should do some antibiotics, it was only for 5 days and didnt make the lump go away.

    but it did go away evetually or I thought it did. 6 months later I got another lump right next to the orig lump, so I went for another mammo and sono. the doc who read the film said it was the same thing as the orig lump and I should see the specialist. I asked why if its the same thing and you are saying it isn't cancer then what is he (the specialist) going to do? he just said, well its not normal that you are getting these (lumps). so I called the specialist I was given a number for (cause the orig one no longer took my insurance) I was told she doesn't see people with infections. I said I wasn't told it was an infection in fact I wasn't told what it was at all. 

    anyway... the second lump was red and hard, & itchy. then the skin started to peel like a sunburn, then it finally opened up and a watery bloody fluid came out. Everytime id bump into something or hit the lump which was hard it hurt but more fluid would come out. now after a few days the lump seems to be gone.  Its not so red and now although its still an open sore it doesn't hurt anymore. anyway I am going to my regular doc tomorrow and im going to call the one who told me to see the specialist and ask him again what this is. maybe he will have a better answer this time other than.. go see the specialist, cause im a bit scared. Even tho I was told it wasn't cancer, after reading this board im worried.       

  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Innerphreak- Since they never told you what your first lump was from the biopsy do you have access to your online medical records from the radiologist /pathologist if not request them to be sent to you in the mail or have your doctor bring that pathology report out to you when you see them .

    The 2nd lump sounds like a breast abscess or a infected cyst since your lucky it got popped to end up draining on its own but both do require a 10 day course of antibiotics because it's a breast infection which can happen after a breast biopsy .

  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Neon- I know how you feel as before I couldn't even really feel any big lumps in my breast before my biopsy except small one right at top of breast bone now even after like 6 weeks since the biopsy been done it feels like there this big huge lump in the middle of my left breast and a huge spread lump right above my breast bone that seems to spread to the sternum side . There also seems to be lumpiness right next to the side of the middle of my breast along my sternum side. Ovulation and PMS really makes my left side feel heart burn twinges. Along with some itches there.

    It seems like a possible cause of Fibroadenoma is due to being sensitive to estrogen levels so when menopause hits it's possible for them to shrink. Complex ones seem to be ones with the chance of increasing in size but can get removed by the vacuum assisted biopsy .



  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Recovery from the biopsy supposedly can take people at least 6 months to recover it's so annoying indeed . I can not believe that it is almost the start of fall season. I'm not ready as that means it is closer to the bad wintery weather we will have but counting down to in about 4 weeks from Thurs will be our first 4 day school vacation as in 2 school days off along with the weekend .

  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Any chance you could request a follow up ultrasound to see if there is any fluid build up that needs to be drained ? That's terrible you had a bad radiologist do your biopsy it sounds like he didn't really know what he was doing . The one who did my biopsy was an actual dr so I was lucky on that part as I hate needles that I wore a mask to cover my eyes up so I didn't see any needles to make me feel like I was in the next Halloween Horror movie with Michael Myers.

  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Neon - I get the same burning pain in my armpit off and on too sometimes it more around during my mid cycle or on my period ! It's frustrating when you have pain there that you want to go away I have heard that sometimes the burning pain feeling is a result of nerves trying to unshock themselves after being injured and with you really having the radiologist who did your biopsy it seems like maybe that's more or the reason you have tons of pain because it seems like he did a lot with you that was very rough. Did you severely bleed after your biopsy ?

  • Sharrazan
    Sharrazan Member Posts: 1

    My first post here - what great people you all are.

    I am extremely worried as for the past 18 months I have had a red nipple - was not too worried in the past as I thought it was the result of a family dog scratch ! Now however over the last week I have had bleeding from what appears to be "slight pin prick holes" three I think, around my nipple. It does not last long - and is not much at all, but I am now seriously scared beyond words ! All I can think of is that I have let 18 months go by and if cancer it could be anywhere by now !

    Cant concentrate on anything and seriously lacking in sleep !!

    Trying so hard to pluck up courage to make the appointment :(:(


  • Psychfan
    Psychfan Member Posts: 14

    Neon - I do wonder if it's possibly that during the biopsy that you developed fat necrosis which is what I have that state fat necrosis usually forms due to injury to the breast some disappear and some are just there but can be part of a cause of pain. Did you ever figure out what one it is like simple, complex or a phyllodes ? When is your next mammogram ?

    Sharrzan- Mostly bleeding from that area could be related to dryness, allergy to a detergent or friction to clothes you wear. I would talk to your doctor about this symptom and in the mean time use some coconut oil on that area not the spray kind but the one you see in the jar.