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Forum: Share Your Experiences Of Life After A Breast Cancer Diagnosis —

Share your experiences of life after a breast cancer diagnosis and offer advice on how you cope with life's daily challenges, including how you develop a new daily/weekly routine while you deal with breast cancer.

Posted on: Jan 14, 2009 12:12AM

webwriter wrote:

Some of us will, some of us won't, but it's an ugly beast to try to tackle alone. I think I'd rather have cancer than quit. Sadly, I can't quit cancer. Dunno if I can quit smoking or not, but I just read a study that says smoking (nicotine) interferes with and blocks chemo by 61%.

http://www.jointogether.org/news/research/summaries/2006/nicotine-hinders.html

joeoncology.blogspot.com/2006/...

If I'm gonna have to go through this crap, it darned well better work. I've come to terms with every other aspect of this mess I've been presented with so far. Sometimes with tears, sometimes with humor, sometimes with quiet hugs from hubby. Smoking not so much. I like it. It's my friend, my crutch, my safe harbor in a crazy world. It's killing me. It's time to say good-bye.

My quit date is 1/19/09. My husband will be joining me. Cold turkey for me, patches for him. (I am avoiding more nicotine just as much as I am sugar.) 

Anyone out there care to join us?

www.acoffeebreakcafe.com/CBC/b... Dx 11/24/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 1/19 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 27, 2017 10:33AM MinusTwo wrote:

Mel - Welcome. Sorry to hear about your Stage IV diagnosis but glad you found us.

I too was finally able to quit with Chantix. I understand that Chantix has a revised program. Maybe look again if the that's compatible with your other meds? Quitting was w/o a doubt the hardest thing I have EVER done. I quit before I was diagnosed so maybe it was easier? Nope - just not easy at all. This last time (the time that took) I first quit smoking in my house. 2 weeks later I quit smoking in my car. Then 2 weeks later I started Chantix. So I was relegated to the front porch before I started Chantix. Every time I wanted a smoke, I headed off walking down the block. By half way around w/no smokes in sight, I had not choice but to march it back.

For months i didn't go anywhere there was smoking - good bye "local". I had to stop drinking coffee for quite a while, and cut out my glass of wine. It's important to change your habits. I started sitting in a different chair so the familiar table w/the ashtray wasn't at my side. And I didn't drive anywhere more than 15 minutes if I could help it. In fact the only time I cheated was once sitting in the car stuck in traffic. For over a year I kept 1/4 of a pack in the freezer - some horrible brand but my emergency fall back. I was finally able to throw them away unused - but it took a year before I was sure.

It was critical for me to have hand to mouth action so I ate a ton of sunflower seeds in the shell. Arm up, pop in seed, arm down, crack seed, arm up, remove seed. Repeat.

VJ offers a quit smoking book free to everyone on this BCO thread. I'm sure she'll check in soon.

Please feel free to rant & rave & scream. We're here to support you as best we can.


2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Apr 27, 2017 10:35AM Leslie2016 wrote:

Herceptin through December. Starting Tamoxifen on Monday (May 1st). Going back to work mid May.

I'm using the patch this time around. Did champix years ago. It did work for a while. Maybe one day. I'd rather not put more medications in my body right now if I can help it. I'm trying.

48 at diagnosis Dx 9/6/2016, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ (IHC) Surgery 10/7/2016 Lumpectomy: Right Dx 10/25/2016, DCIS, Right, Stage 0, 0/0 nodes Chemotherapy 11/2/2016 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Targeted Therapy 1/4/2017 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Radiation Therapy 3/16/2017 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 5/1/2017 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Apr 27, 2017 10:39AM MinusTwo wrote:

Leslie - I hear you about adding more meds. I am so relieved to be back to vitamins only. Hope the patch will work. Maybe going back to work will provide a diversion? Hopefully not more stress.

Have you checked the Tamox threads? I'm not ER/PR+ so didn't have hormone treatment.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Apr 27, 2017 03:52PM VJSL8 wrote:

Medications can increase your chance of success AND think of this this way --it is only 1 chemical instead of the 7,000 chemicals that are in smoke. Also nicotine interferes with the effectiveness of many other drugs (including caffeine--after quitting, even if you drink the same amount of coffee, your body will absorb twice as much caffeine as when you were smoking -- so often on top of withdrawal symptoms, many also have to deal with symptoms of excessive caffeine). Plus you don't get nearly the amount of nicotine from NRT that you do from smoking (which is often why people think they don't work-- because they don't get enough nicotine to subside the withdrawals-- too little NRT instead of too much is often the case.

VJ Sleight, 1st diagnosis: 1987, stage 2, ER+, 0/18 nodes, lympectomy, radiation and chemo. cancer free for 22 years, 10 months and 27 days. www.StopSmokingStayQuit.blogspot.com Dx 8/2/2010, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/0 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 27, 2017 09:20PM MinusTwo wrote:

VJ - interesting graph. Thanks for posting this info.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Apr 27, 2017 09:42PM HoneyBeaw wrote:

Thanks guys

I know I will kick this nasty little habit at some point cause I really cant stand smoking anymore .. Its crazy cant stand the smell of smoke any longer, don't really enjoy them except for that one with my morning coffee, still love that one. .

Its just so much habit and so many alarms set me off . I have quit smoking in the car which has been big for me. Totally quit smoking at work. I try not to smoke in the house but sometimes phone rings I light up. not even thinking , I have moved the smoke stash to the back porch so I at least have to walk out there in order to smoke.

I have not used anything to quit except for this fake cigarette I bought which actually helped me a lot from smoking in the car.

Im grateful for the support on this site and I feel like no one but you guys understand what is like. .

Thanks HB

Surgery 11/27/2016 Lumpectomy: Left Dx 12/5/2016, IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 1/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 12/26/2016 Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 1/16/2017 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Apr 27, 2017 11:45PM MinusTwo wrote:

Honey - oh yes, talking on the phone was one of my worst triggers. So I refused to take a portable home phone or a cell phone to the porch. For many months I didn't talk very long to anyone. Sort of like I didn't drive to see friends who were more than 20 minutes away.

Interesting about your one morning smoke with the coffee. That's the last one LisaMarie gave up. I quit coffee at home several years before due to dense, fibercycstic breasts (hmmmm) so that wasn't an issue for me. But I used to light one as soon as my eyes opened, before I got out of bed. Oh my....

Hang in there girl. As least it's spring so you can't come up with an excuse that it's too cold to go outside. Good strategy.

In early 2000s, I was going outside to smoke at my parents house. I bought a cheap red plastic, lined 'car coat' with a hood from WalMart that I kept in their garage (mind you this was in CA and I was traveling there from TX w/great regularity) After they both died, the jacket went to my son's house in CA. He keeps asking me if he can throw away the "smoking jacket". NO WAY. It no longer smells like smoke, but it means I don't have to take a mid weight jacket or rain gear with I visit. But since the name has stuck I should probably let it go.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Apr 28, 2017 11:27AM lisamarie68 wrote:

welcome to you Mel.. there is lots of support here ..

xoxoxo

Lisamarie

lisamarie Dx 1/18/2012, LCIS, 0/13 nodes, ER+ Surgery 4/24/2012 Lymph node removal: Left, Right, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Surgery 4/24/2012 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 7/12/2012 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Surgery 2/12/2013 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right)
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May 15, 2017 11:56AM lisamarie68 wrote:

Hello My lovely quiet ladies . I hope all is well .. I was in Hospital so I have not had time to write or check in... anyway I hope all is well with everyone .. I miss you all so much ..

To the new ladies sending you Hugs ..

Love ya all Bosom , Judy, Minus, Vj, April ..

xoxoxox

Lisamarie

lisamarie Dx 1/18/2012, LCIS, 0/13 nodes, ER+ Surgery 4/24/2012 Lymph node removal: Left, Right, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Surgery 4/24/2012 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 7/12/2012 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Surgery 2/12/2013 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right)
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May 15, 2017 02:12PM MinusTwo wrote:

Oh no LisaMarie. I hope it wasn't serious & you are on the road to recovery. Please do let us know, or send me a PM if you're not comfortable making a general post.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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May 15, 2017 09:33PM HoneyBeaw wrote:

Lisa, I hope all is well or much better then whatever had you in the hospital.

Huggs

Surgery 11/27/2016 Lumpectomy: Left Dx 12/5/2016, IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 1/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 12/26/2016 Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 1/16/2017 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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May 15, 2017 09:40PM HoneyBeaw wrote:

Well as long as we are updating I have been doing terrible with the smoking. Im back at work and while I do not smoke at work, I still have not quit totally I think I have turned into the dreaded closet smoker . . Still at my 6-7 smokes a day some days more . I though going back to work would help but I find that my anxiety has actually went up and not sure as to why. I do have a good support system there although some people still avoid me ( they don't know what to say so they just avoid ). God forgive me if I ever did that to anyone.

I just wake up every morning praying today will be better then yesterday and grateful that I have another day to enjoy my kids and grandkids

Surgery 11/27/2016 Lumpectomy: Left Dx 12/5/2016, IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 1/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 12/26/2016 Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 1/16/2017 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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May 15, 2017 11:14PM MinusTwo wrote:

Honey - sounds like you're moving ahead. It's OK if you're not quite ready yet. Cutting down to 6 or 7 smokes a day is a major accomplishment. I do understand about work being a major stressor. Are you through with all BC treatment now? Or is there more to go? Don't be too hard on yourself. Your body is still recovering from chemo. Your time will come.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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May 16, 2017 10:42AM lisamarie68 wrote:

Honey Beaw

Be Careful of work stress .. as I was just in the hospital 4 days and out for 9 total due to stress and anxiety from working too much and stress in workplace .. Had a cardiac cath .. most pain ive ever felt ... anyway 6=7 cigs are a great accomplishment .. I held on to one morning smoke forever .. the girls here will tell you ... I was so upset that I would never get rid of it .. But one day it happened .. so give yourself a break .. dont beat yourself up .. your day will come ... dont give up ...

Hugs

Lisamarie

lisamarie Dx 1/18/2012, LCIS, 0/13 nodes, ER+ Surgery 4/24/2012 Lymph node removal: Left, Right, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Surgery 4/24/2012 Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 7/12/2012 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Surgery 2/12/2013 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right)
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May 16, 2017 05:44PM melmcbee wrote:

I would love to say that I only smoke 6 a day. I lasted 2 days without and now i smike more than ever. I am starting all these crazy treatments for bone mets and i am stressed beyond belief. I hate myself for nit being able ti quit. Thanks for being here and listenin

Melanie. mentor smooth round high profile gel 700 rt 550 lt with fat grafting 5/30/2013 Dx 6/24/2012, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 8/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 7/9/2012 Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Surgery 8/9/2012 Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary Chemotherapy 8/23/2012 Adriamycin (doxorubicin), Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy 1/9/2013 Breast, Lymph nodes Surgery 5/30/2013 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Surgery 12/4/2013 Reconstruction (right) Dx 3/29/2017, ILC, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, ER+/PR- Targeted Therapy 5/16/2017 Ibrance (palbociclib) Hormonal Therapy Faslodex (fulvestrant)
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May 16, 2017 07:16PM MinusTwo wrote:

Oh no Mel - what ever you do, don't hate yourself & don't beat yourself up. This is a REALLY hard thing. If your even still thinking about & planning to do something down the road, you're doing OK. So sorry about the bone mets. What drugs are you doing now?

Did you send a private message to VJ to ask for a copy of her book? She's often on this thread and had offered a free copy to any BCO members trying to quit.

We're here. Scream, yell, rant, throw your pillow. Probably best not to kick the computer LOL.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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May 16, 2017 08:10PM melmcbee wrote:

Hi MinusTwo. I have been doing faslodex injections. Today I started ibrance and thursday I should start xgeva. Thanks for askin

Melanie. mentor smooth round high profile gel 700 rt 550 lt with fat grafting 5/30/2013 Dx 6/24/2012, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 8/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 7/9/2012 Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Surgery 8/9/2012 Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary Chemotherapy 8/23/2012 Adriamycin (doxorubicin), Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy 1/9/2013 Breast, Lymph nodes Surgery 5/30/2013 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Surgery 12/4/2013 Reconstruction (right) Dx 3/29/2017, ILC, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, ER+/PR- Targeted Therapy 5/16/2017 Ibrance (palbociclib) Hormonal Therapy Faslodex (fulvestrant)
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May 17, 2017 12:25AM MinusTwo wrote:

Hope the SEs are mild Mel.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014

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