Topic: Covid-19?

Forum: All things COVID-19 or coronavirus — A place to discuss the impact of COVID-19 (Coronavirus) on you and the ones you love.

Posted on: Mar 11, 2020 11:31PM

Posted on: Mar 11, 2020 11:31PM

Yuuki wrote:

Increasingly, it's feeling like the elephant in the middle of the room. So, I thought I would open a thread where we can air our concerns, frustrations, fears, and nervous humor about the SARS-CoV2 virus and give each other support. Do you work, and can you work from home? Kids in school? Are you practicing "social distancing" and to what degree? Are your family members and caregivers doing the same? What are the practical considerations and concerns you deal with on a daily basis? Is there an outbreak near you?

I'm hoping we can come here to support each other, commiserate, and get through it together. It would certainly help me.

Blessings and waves - from 6 feet away - to all of you.

Yuuki

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Mar 11, 2020 11:59PM marijen wrote:

Thanks for staring this thread. I am worried. CNN has 24/7 live updates @


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-ou...


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Mar 12, 2020 12:34AM wallycat wrote:

It is distressing. DH's daughter and kids came to visit last week via Seattle route. So far, 7 days and we are fine. They are fine as well. Our small little town seems very prepared and more organized than the clown-in-chief, for which I am grateful. I try to wash my hands and have to remind DH to wash his (what a battle). Our generation has not experienced the likes of this and this will definitely be a trying time.

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Mar 12, 2020 01:11AM marijen wrote:

I am being proactive and taking supplements that are good for coughs and the lungs. I read somewhere that Zinc keeps the virus from replicating in the lungs.


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Mar 12, 2020 01:38AM Yuuki wrote:

I can’t seem to turn off the wall-to-wall coverage either, as if I’m afraid of missing some tiny piece of evidence that will be the key to solving all of this. I need to let it go, and at the same time it’s hard to get answers to my questions about risk, about being able to fill my prescriptions, etc. I’m not sure anyone has the answers.

Wallycat, I am glad all seems well in your corner of Washington. Marijen, thank you for the tip on the zinc. I had not heard that.

Stay strong,

Yuuki

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Mar 12, 2020 01:46AM - edited Mar 12, 2020 09:24AM by marijen

Yuuki where do you live?


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Mar 12, 2020 01:49AM marijen wrote:

Can These Vitamins Stop the Coronavirus?

(Bert Folsom/Dreamstime.com)

By Lynn Allison | Monday, 10 February 2020 10:29 AM


Experts say that people are dying needlessly from the coronavirus because doctors, health authorities, hospital administrators, and politicians aren't paying attention to history. According to experts at the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service (OMNS), some tried-and-true nutrients have the potential to fight the deadly disease that has already claimed the lives of approximately 500 people worldwide.

"The coronavirus can be dramatically slowed or stopped completely with the immediate widespread doses of vitamin C," says Dr. Andrew Saul, an international expert on vitamin therapy. "Bowel tolerance levels of C taken in divided disease throughout the day is a clinically proven antiviral, without equal."

Saul adds, "Dr. Robert F. Cathcart, who had extensive experience treating viral disease, has stated, 'I have not seen any flu yet that was not cured or markedly ameliorated by massive doses of vitamin C.'"

The physicians of OMNS and the International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine urge a nutrient-based method to prevent or minimize symptoms for future viral infection. Here are their recommendations for adults:

  • Vitamin C: 3,000 milligrams in divided doses
  • Vitamin D3: 2,000 International Units daily
  • Magnesium: 400 milligrams daily
  • Zinc: 20 milligrams daily
  • Selenium: 100 micrograms daily

"These supplements have been shown to strengthen the immune system against viruses," says Saul.

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Mar 12, 2020 06:10AM gb2115 wrote:

What's frustrating is hearing people who think this is no big deal talk about what they don't understand. Yes, younger folks are likely to come through it just fine. But the mortality rate is much much higher than the flu (I'm sick of people saying the flu is worse), especially for the elderly.

I personally wish I worked in a job where I could work from home, but I see elderly patients in an essential healthcare setting. There's no way to telecommute and it's not like we can shut down our clinic, we will keep treating patients. So life goes on.

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Mar 12, 2020 06:53AM marijen wrote:

You are right about that:

Coronavirus is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu, Trump's task force immunologist says

March 11, 2020

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told lawmakers during a House Oversight Committee hearing Wednesday that COVID-19 — the disease caused by the novel coronavirus — is probably about 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.

President Trump has often compared COVID-19 to the flu, which affects tens of thousands of Americans each year, in an effort to calm people down, but Fauci clearly wasn't trying to downplay the seriousness of the virus' spread. Fauci is a member of the White House's coronavirus task force.

At the same time, he did clarify that 10 times figure actually brings the new coronavirus' fatality rate lower than official estimates, which hover around 3 percent. The flu has a mortality rate of about 0.1 percent, so, when considering the likelihood that there are many asymptomatic or very mild cases that have gone undiagnosed, Fauci places the new coronavirus' lethality rate at somewhere around 1 percent. While that's a good deal lower than the current data suggests, it still would lead to significant numbers of fatalities, and makes the flu comparisons seem pretty questionable. Tim O'Donnell

Q: How does COVID-19 compare to other previous health situations — SARS, H1N1?
Dr. Fauci: "...It is 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu. I think that's something that people can get their arms around and understand." pic.twitter.com/yjLrcFSOxR
— Erick Fernandez (@ErickFernandez
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Mar 12, 2020 07:26AM DATNY wrote:

It may not be all bad as long as one survives it It brings high fever. High fever from unrelated causes is known to trigger remission in cancer patients. In fact in the late 1800s dr. William Colley purposely infected cancer patients with strep to cure cancer. He is considered the first doctor to do immunotherapy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Coley

When I went through chemo I refused the flu shot, knowing this. I knew the risk, and I assumed it. A week after I finished chemo I got sick, most likely from my kids. I had the highest fever I had in my life, 105.6 F. I did not tell any of the family members about it, as I would have ended up in ER. Did not take any anti-fever medicine, I just let it run its curse. A month later after my BMX I was told I had pcr. I have no proof it was due to my fever, but I keep wondering if it played a role.

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Mar 12, 2020 09:05AM ingerp wrote:

Lots of conflicting information out there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/immune-boost-coronavirus/2020/03/05/e111554a-5e73-11ea-b014-4fafa866bb81_story.html

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