Topic: Covid-19?

Mar 23, 2020 07:52PM santabarbarian wrote:

Onlygirl,

Would you get your chemo at a dedicated cancer infusion center without entering the hospital? That might lessen your risk. At my center there was tons of room between patients, like 10 feet or so, and only cancer patients even went in that building. You could wipe down your chair with alcohol, wear gloves, etc, and you'd be pretty safe as they KNOW their clientele is immune compromised they are careful.

Factoid for all:

One of the things that is effective against a viral infection is High Dose IV Vitamin C. It also happens to be good against cancer. It was one of the integrative things I did during chemo: I did lots of High dose C IVs.

I mention this in case anyone decides they might want this 'double whammy.'

Anecdotally, re efficacy against viruses, I used to get cold sores -- but after chemo & High dose C, they seem to have gone away permanently. I never got sick even once during chemo.

Mar 23, 2020 10:26PM marijen wrote:

santabarbarian, I have seen an article on IV vitamin C for covid19 but I wonder who would be willing to treat someone that’s contagious. And if you were in the hospital, how to get a doctor to order it for you?

Mar 24, 2020 01:48AM santabarbarian wrote:

WC3 I think you could keep the entry area safe by disinfecting your door knobs, etc, regulalrly. I would be going nuts if cooped up with un-careful people. I hope you make it home soon. I wonder if putting something like some potted plants outside your window area might keep people back from it.

Marjen, true you'd need a doc who was willing to order it. But I bet some could be persuaded.

Mar 24, 2020 07:10AM DivineMrsM wrote:

My whole adult life, and I’m in my early 60s now, it feels like I’ve had constant, continuous lessons on dealing with the unknown. That’s after a childhood in a large family with dysfunctional parents and no stability.

Many times, the rug’s been pulled out from under me. In my 20s, a couple of sure-fire jobs suddenly dissolved. In my 30s, my son was born prematurely. Later I had a miscarriage plus dealt with the loss of my parents within 9 months of each other. My husband had job layoffs then had to search for new work in his 40s when the steel mills tanked. And again last year in his early 60s, he had to find new employment when the power plant he worked at filed bankruptcy.

The big game changer: getting a diagnosis of metastatic breast cancer in my early 50s. That’ll throw ya into a freefall for sure.

Despite all the above, you may be surprised to know I have lived a very good life. During everything, I was always aware of much abundance in my life. My life’s been very full and I’ve experienced wonderful wonderful moments and times.

So, coronavirus. Yeah. One more thing to contend with. My life experiences taught me to be prepared for the unknown. I never, ever went around claiming, “I’m blessed!” Because so many people struggle with things in life. How could I go about acting like I gota better deal than they did? What I’ve said instead is: I’m grateful. I have much to be grateful for.

I don’t like the social distancing or the stock market crashing but I have no control over these events. I must bide my time. I hope the virus isn’t tracked into my home. I don’t know the outcome of the coronavirus effects on our nation and world. It will get bad but my gosh.The American spirit always prevails. Of that, I am certain.

Mar 24, 2020 12:31PM flashlight wrote:

DivineMrsM, Thank you for your post. Very well said.

WC3, I hope you make it home soon. I think you will be surprised even in the city people are staying home. They shouldn't be hanging out anywhere. It almost sounds like your chances of getting the virus is worse where you are now. Make it home safe.

Mar 25, 2020 04:50PM marijen wrote:

At CNN updates:

Your questions, answered

CNN's Phil Mattingly is answering your questions on the Senate stimulus package. Many of you asked if retired seniors will get stimulus checks. Here's what Mattingly said:

So long as they are not listed as a dependent for someone else (and fall within the income thresholds), yes they will.

Mar 26, 2020 02:13AM - edited Mar 26, 2020 02:13AM by marijen

Here's some good news

Stanford University biophysicist Michael Levitt correctly calculated China would get through the worst of its coronavirus epidemic earlier than most health experts estimated. Now he sees a similar outcome for the United States and other affected countries.

By

Joseph Guzman

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/pr...

Mar 26, 2020 02:41PM marijen wrote:

Here’s a tip:

If you're experiencing the symptoms of coronavirus, it's advisable to sleep on your front tonight.

Researchers from Zhongda Hospital, China, recommend the snoozing position because it may be better for the lungs.

In one study, researchers analysed 12 coronavirus patients on ventilators.

Professor Haibo Qiu, who led the study, said: "This study is the first description of the behaviour of the lungs in patients with severe COVID-19 requiring mechanical ventilation and receiving positive pressure.

"It indicates that some patients do not respond well to high positive pressure and respond better to prone positioning in bed (facing downward).

"While the study only assessed 12 patients, the researchers hope the findings will encourage people showing symptoms to re-think their body positioning in bed."

Mar 26, 2020 04:31PM DivineMrsM wrote:

I’m still flabbergasted at the many social media comments from people who think the stay at home orders in numerous states and recommended/required social distancing are ridiculous. Obviously, none of these people have any relatives or loved ones working in the medical field. Or have or know anyone they care about with underlying health issues. It smacks of selfishness and irresponsibility.

Mar 26, 2020 07:34PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

I’m fortunate to have both my adult daughters close to me. They continue to run a well oiled machine so all three of our households are well supplied and I don’t do any shopping. I am going stir crazy and when I say that I am a true classroom, I really mean it. Distance learning will improve in the coming weeks, but so far I find being a remote teacher to first graders more exhausting than being in the classroom! I took a 40 mile drive the other day to get a vanilla milkshake. In N’Out Burger has great shakes. They also have two locations fairly close to my house but I was feeling so cooped up that I drove 40 miles south on the pretense of going out for a shake. The freeway I was on goes straight down to Los Angeles. Part of me was tempted to just keep driving so I could feel free. I know this is a situation most of us could have never imagined and we will get through it but it will take its toll in so many ways

Mar 26, 2020 11:17PM - edited Mar 26, 2020 11:23PM by marijen

Vitamin C, vitamin D3, magnesium, ashrawanda, turmeric, NAC, elderberry, low dose naltrexone, zinc and astragulus.

https://ca.iherb.com/blog/the-mucous-barrier-your-...

Mar 27, 2020 07:44AM - edited Mar 27, 2020 08:10AM by flashlight

• Expand, train and deploy healthcare workers
• Implement systems to find suspected cases
• Ramp up production of tests and increase availability
• Identify facilities that can be transformed into coronavirus health centers

All these are being done in the USA. It is reported daily. We are coming together as a nation to fight this virus. As a retired respiratory nurse the prone position is only used when doing chest percussion therapy. This helps to loosen thick mucus in your lungs. This is impossible to do once on a ventilator. A electronic device helps vibrate the chest to do this therapy. When short of breath or when you have pneumonia you want your head as high as you can tolerate to expand your lungs. Being in the prone position is very bad advice.,

exbrnxgrl, I know what you mean!! My daughter teaches 7th graders and she is pulling out her hair!! Her 8 year old is having a hard time with all of this. I went out and bought groceries for my daughters and left the bags on their porch. I missed getting my hugs. I hope everyone can get back to normal soon.

Mar 27, 2020 09:53AM DogMomRunner wrote:

hi SummerAngel- sorry that you and your family are sick.

I have the congestion and a cough but no fever or shortness of breath. My oncologist did not think I needed to get tested for a few reasons. 1) no fever 2) no known exposure to someone with COVID-19 and 3) my symptoms mimicking allergies, sinus infection and even the side effects from my Herceptin treatment. However because I am immune compromised (low WBC) she said that if I got worse or had fever or SOB that I needed to let her know and she would recommend testing. I have been out of work for a week and my symptoms are getting better.

Of course this begs the question. Many people will show no or minimal symptoms but still have the virus. We can't possibly know the full extent of the spread of this disease or how to isolate those who have it from those who don't without massive full scale testing. Something that can't be done (still have shortages of testing) or won't be done (can't let the country know how really widespread it might be). I think anyone who has symptoms should get tested. Your family deserves to know.

I hope that everyone in your family recovers well from this. I know it is a scary time

Mar 27, 2020 12:24PM SummerAngel wrote:

Thank you for the well-wishes! The reason we're sure we have it is that we all have had the classic symptoms. The people I did manage to talk to when attempting to get tested said that with my symptoms I "most likely" have it and to go to the ER if I have trouble breathing. That was it. Luckily the shortness of breath, which was the scariest symptom, has mostly gone away, but my fever is still 101.8 today, and I never run fevers above 100. This is nearly two weeks after initial symptoms. My kids are in the 99-100 range now, but my younger daughter's boyfriend ran 103 for a couple of days, and he's 22 years old.

We're pretty sure we got it from my older daughter, who works as a pharmacy tech in one of Safeway's busiest pharmacies in Denver. When she first thought she might not be well she went to work anyway and her manager had her wear a mask. Within an hour and a half her store manager ordered her to remove the mask because she was "causing panic". I ended up pitching a fit to Safeway corporate about that and since then my daughter has been off work and isolating. We've all been isolating to avoid transferring it any more than we may already have. One thing I can say is that this is VERY contagious. Typically we don't spread a virus throughout our household and we were all sick before we knew it.

Mar 27, 2020 01:27PM flashlight wrote:

SummerAngel, I am sorry to hear that you and your family has the virus. Did your primary doctor notify the state health department? Where your daughter worked did they notify everyone she came in contact with? I wish you the best for a speedy recovery. My primary doctor sent an email explaining what we had to do if we had any of the symptoms and how we would go about getting a test.

A person who isn't sick who wears a mask is most likely going to touch their face at least 10x. Anyone who has had to wear a mask for any length of time will tell you it isn't easy. Your nose might run, your glasses might fog up, you might get an itch, and that piece of hair you pinned back is now in your face. Save the masks for those who are ill and those who are on the front lines.