Topic: Covid-19?

Forum: All things COVID-19 or coronavirus — A place to discuss the impact of COVID-19 (Coronavirus) on you and the ones you love.

Posted on: Mar 11, 2020 10:31PM

Posted on: Mar 11, 2020 10:31PM

yuuki wrote:

Increasingly, it's feeling like the elephant in the middle of the room. So, I thought I would open a thread where we can air our concerns, frustrations, fears, and nervous humor about the SARS-CoV2 virus and give each other support. Do you work, and can you work from home? Kids in school? Are you practicing "social distancing" and to what degree? Are your family members and caregivers doing the same? What are the practical considerations and concerns you deal with on a daily basis? Is there an outbreak near you?

I'm hoping we can come here to support each other, commiserate, and get through it together. It would certainly help me.

Blessings and waves - from 6 feet away - to all of you.


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Mar 15, 2020 06:10PM wc3 wrote:

I don't have to fly but I would either have to take a train and a few buses or get a ride. I think it might just be best for me to stay where I am at the moment.

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Mar 15, 2020 07:08PM kidi919 wrote:

All schools closed in N.Y. until 4/20. Stores are sold out of pretty much all milk, bread, meat etc. I work in a dental office and so far it's been business as usual. Will see what this week brings.

Dx 9/17/2019, DCIS/IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Radiation Therapy 1/15/2020 Whole breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 3/8/2020 Femara (letrozole)
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Mar 16, 2020 12:35AM marijen wrote:

22 min ago

Jack Ma tweets photo of donated masks and testing kits on their way to US In this file photo, Jack Ma arrives for the "Tech For Good" meetup at Hotel Marigny in Paris on May 15, 2019.In this file photo, Jack Ma arrives for the "Tech For Good" meetup at Hotel Marigny in Paris on May 15, 2019. Bertrand Guay/AFP/Getty Images

Jack Ma, Chinese entrepreneur and founder of e-commerce giant Alibaba, used his first tweet to post a photo of a massive donation of face masks and coronavirus testing kits.

The donated goods are on their way to the United States, Ma said on Twitter, courtesy of the Jack Ma Foundation.

"The first shipment of masks and coronavirus test kits to the US is taking off from Shanghai. All the best to our friends in America," Ma said in his very first post on his official Twitter account.

According to an earlier post from the foundation, the shipment included about 500,000 coronavirus testing kits and a million face masks.

The first shipment of masks and coronavirus test kits to the US is taking off from Shanghai. All the best to our friends in America. 🙏
— Jack Ma (@JackMa) March 16, 2020
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Mar 16, 2020 01:26AM marijen wrote:

More than half of coronavirus cases in France under intensive care are below the age of 60

More than half of France's 300 coronavirus patients in intensive care are under the age of 60, according to the head of the country's national health agency.

"We have counted this evening 300 serious cases in intensive care. We have serious cases also amid adults and let me remind you that more than 50% of people in intensive care are under 60," Jerome Salomon said at a news conference on Saturday.

Salomon did not specify the age range of those under 60.

As of Sunday, French health authorities said there are 5,423 confirmed cases in the country, with 127 deaths reported.

That is an increase of 29 deaths and more that 1,300 cases from the day before, according to health authorities.

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Mar 16, 2020 01:46AM - edited Mar 16, 2020 09:53AM by marijen


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Mar 16, 2020 05:14AM - edited Mar 16, 2020 05:15AM by melissadallas

Marijen, the info in your post has been debunked and is not accurate.

Ability to hold your breath 10 seconds is not a test for coronavirus

By BEATRICE DUPUYMarch 12, 2020

CLAIM: There is a simple self-check that can be done every morning to see if you have the coronavirus. Take a deep breath and hold it for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without discomfort, stuffiness or tightness it proves there is no fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicating no infection.

AP'S ASSESSMENT: False. Medical experts say that the test would not provide a clear indication of whether someone has the novel coronavirus.

THE FACTS: Social media users are sharing the false claim on platforms that include What's App, Twitter and Facebook. The claim, which has three parts, first says that if a coronavirus patient goes to the hospital too late their lungs will experience 50 percent fibrosis, scarring of the lungs that restricts breathing. It goes on to suggest the 10 second breathing test, finally stating that drinking water every 15 minutes will kill the virus.

Social media users have falsely attributed the claims to Japanese doctors, Taiwanese experts and even Stanford University.

Lisa Kim, Stanford Health Care and school of medicine spokeswoman, said in an email that the widely distributed breathing test claim did not come from Stanford University. Despite medical experts and even the World Health Organization debunking these claims, social media users continue to share them on and off social media.

Dr. Robert Legare Atmar, an infectious disease specialist at Baylor College of Medicine, told The Associated Press that there is no clear evidence that coronavirus causes 50 percent pulmonary fibrosis.

Experts also said that the 10 second test being shared online would not be a reliable way to determine whether someone has the virus.

"This approach may be helpful in identifying persons with more serious lung disease," Atmar said. But it will not identify persons who are infected and have mild to no symptoms."

There are many things beyond coronavirus that could lead to restricted breathing, including asthma, anxiety or heart disease, said Dr. Gregory Poland, head of vaccine research at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. All could make it difficult to hold your breath for 10 seconds, he said.

Throughout the coronavirus outbreak, the World Health Organization has continuously updated their social media platforms to debunk false claims around the virus. The WHO Philippines Twitter account on Feb. 7 knocked down the claim about drinking water to avoid getting the virus.

"While staying hydrated by drinking water is important for overall health, it does not prevent coronavirus infection," the WHO post stated.


This is part of The Associated Press' ongoing effort to fact-check misinformation that is shared widely online, including work with Facebook to identify and reduce the circulation of false stories on the platform.

Here's more information on Facebook's fact-checking program:

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Mar 16, 2020 06:21AM flashlight wrote:

WC3, Good luck to you. My niece took the train to come home from college and she said it wasn't full. Amtrak is going to cut more trains this week. My daughter is a teacher and they told her it might be 6-8 weeks, not 2 weeks before school restarts. I hope someone in your group can go out and get supplies for you. I went to Costco midweek and was able to get everything I needed.

Dx 11/15/2018, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx DCIS, Left, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes Radiation Therapy Whole breast Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lumpectomy: Left
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Mar 16, 2020 07:14AM exbrnxgrl wrote:


What is the source for your Coronavirus info? As MelissaDallas says, the breathe hold test has been debunked. I live near Stanford University and we get a lot of medically correct info from their medical center. They did not state anything about a breath holding test. This brings into question the veracity of everything on the list you posted. Please verify sources before posting

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Mar 16, 2020 09:05AM santabarbarian wrote:

My understanding is that the way you get it is through the respiratory system. It can survive on surfaces and fabric for some days.... so you have to be careful about what you touch, and then touching your mouth nose or eyes. So if you keep not touching your face except w clean hands, and sit by yourself so not exposed someone's cough, you are pretty safe.

WC3, if you went on a train, and you wiped down the seat, arm rests, tray, etc with an alcohol wipe, then your immediate area would be made pretty safe.

If I needed to travel, would do this and wear a mask and my eyeglasses (to remind myself not to touch my face). And then handwash a couple of times during the ride. And wear gloves or carry a few paper towels for any bannisters, rails, etc.

Then when you get home, shoes off on front porch (spray shoes w antibacterial spray). and put your clothes in laundry , then wash your hands and shower....... so on the small chance you got something on your clothing, it is not spread around your house.

If you can lay hands on a zinc losenge those are helpful to defensing against a virus. Good to bathe the throat. I have none of those but I have zinc capsules. I am putting about 1/3 cap in some hot ginger tea and gargling with that.

It could be a few months before we are out of this extreme caution time.

pCR after neoadjuvant chemo w/ integrative practices; Proton rads. Dx 7/13/2018, IDC, Left, 3cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 8/12/2018 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 12/27/2018 Lumpectomy; Lumpectomy (Left) Radiation Therapy 2/11/2019 Whole breast: Breast, Lymph nodes
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Mar 16, 2020 09:39AM missouricatlady wrote:

Kansas schools are closed.

WC3, my heart goes out to you without any toilet paper. I hope you can make it home safely.

Our son lives in Portland, Oregon and is off work from driving a school bus. The Fortune 500 company I work for appears to be making preparations for closing as well. It is rather scary to think of how folks will be able to pay the bills in the coming weeks.

I'd like to share some tips on anxiety, in case anyone else is feeling the stress.

Here is some advice that may give some comfort to those of you who are struggling:

1) Avoid the (health-related) news. We all want to keep up to date, but when you have health anxiety the need to check and read the latest updates can become compulsive, feeding the anxiety. Try having a news detox, or allocating yourself a time limit for reading or watching news. If you're really worried about missing something crucial, you can always tell friends and family to contact you in the event of an emergency situation in order to keep you informed.

2) Try not to seek constant reassurance. Seeking reassurance can make you feel calmer for a little while, but in my experience, it is always temporary. Your brain creates a feedback cycle where you become increasingly reliant on reassurance, which only serves to reinforce the anxiety. It's natural to want your loved ones to tell you things will be OK, but when you start needing that reassurance several times a day it's time to take a step back.

3) Introduce an absolute ban on Googling symptoms. Dr Google is not, and never will be, your friend, especially not when you are a sufferer of health anxiety. Nor will message-boards and forums. Try to remember that people visit these places when they have reason to be concerned. Once you start understanding it's a skewed lens, you'll be better able to put things in perspective

4) Try a countering technique. This is a CBT exercise which involves giving a persistent thought the courtroom treatment, by confronting it with a rational counter-statement. For example, if your persistent thought is something like "Everyone I love will die from this virus" you can counter it with factual statements such as "Actually, most people who get Covid-19 are likely to make a full recovery, and that's assuming mum, dad and my little sister will even catch it at all." As my mother always says: "just because you think something, doesn't make it true."

5) Do some exercise. Even if it's just star jumps in your bedroom, or shaking your body parts like you're in the warm-up section of a hippie acting class, exercise will help get the adrenaline out of your system and channel the panic elsewhere.

6) Breathing and grounding exercises. From guided yogic breathing to using a strong smell (I favored lavender oil), grounding exercises can help bring you back to reality. I also found bending over to touch my toes and then very slowly standing up starting at the base of my spine to be beneficial, as it centers me. You can look for examples online, but sometimes, something as simple as sitting on the floor can help.

7) Allocate yourself a daily "worry period". Give yourself half an hour to worry about this to your heart's content, and then you have to go and do something else.

8) Treat yourself. Anything that will give you a little boost can help. It doesn't need to involve spending money: you can also cook yourself something nice, have a hot bath, or listen to a song you love.

9) Remember that your anxious state isn't permanent. When you are in it, anxiety always feels as though it will never end, but it will. It's hard to remember this, but do try. I genuinely thought that I would never recover, and now even though we are in a public health crisis, I feel calm and have things in perspective. It's a worrying time, and many of us, myself included, will have loved ones who might be showing symptoms, but the tendency to jump to the worst case scenario very rarely reflects reality. Be kind to yourself. It may be a bit cheesy, but this too shall pass.

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