Topic: Anyone else work in a school and afraid to go back?

Forum: All things COVID-19 or coronavirus — A place to discuss the impact of COVID-19 (Coronavirus) on you and the ones you love.

Posted on: Jul 21, 2020 10:02AM - edited Sep 22, 2021 11:22PM by mavericksmom

Posted on: Jul 21, 2020 10:02AM - edited Sep 22, 2021 11:22PM by mavericksmom

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Dx 6/6/2003, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/24 nodes, ER+/PR+ Dx 12/4/2018, ILC, Left, 1cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jul 31, 2020 01:44PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

I will be 64 at the end of September. Like you, despite being stage IV, my mo believes my cancer does not put me at greater risk (not on any immuno-suppressive drugs). Cancer and Covid 19 are two very different things so I’m not sure what your husband is getting at. When our county health department says that we can return to the classroom safely, we will but for now I am glad that the decision has been taken out of my hands.

Dx IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jul 31, 2020 01:45PM flashlight wrote:

My 9 year old grandson learned that he wasn't going back to school until maybe November. He burst out crying. My daughter is a 7th grade teacher and at a different school. They will be doing a hybrid plan and she will have to be at school daily. All paraprofessionals have been let go. I think her school district will okay early retirement. Those who feel compromised can do online learning in any class or take a 6-month leave. My daughter had very few students show up for online learning when school closed, now a parent/adult has to be present at all times. Good luck with that. At the hospital child care was available for all first responders. So far not one child or caregiver has come down with Covid. In Delaware people have commented they would like to see the teachers paid less and property taxes decreased since schools are not open.

Dx 11/15/2018, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx DCIS, Left, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes Radiation Therapy Whole breast Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lumpectomy: Left
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Jul 31, 2020 03:23PM - edited Jul 31, 2020 03:26PM by exbrnxgrl

flashlight,

As I'm sure your daughter can attest, what happened in the spring was emergency teaching. We had no time for planning or preparation. I believe that like my school district, most school districts spent the summer, with teachers volunteering their time, preparing for both distance and hybrid learning situations. Our fall distance learning looks nothing like the spring! Since I teach elementary school, first grade, an adult will be present (can't comment on middle or HD). My state has also instituted mandatory attendance and instructional minutes per day. Our schools may not be open but teachers are still working (as we were in the spring) and teaching. Since I was teaching from my dining room table, I actually had to work more! I will be teaching from my classroom, sans students, but it will be easier since I have all my “stuff" there. Again, many of us worked all summer to make sure that distance learning will be rigorous and effective (though not perfect). Many of us spent weekdays helping to organize and distribute grab and go meals so no student went hungry. I can't imagine that teachers in Delaware operate that much differently so I hope someone educates those in the community regarding reacher pay and taxes. In my entire teaching career, I have never worked as hard as I did this summer to insure that all students in my district have a rigorous, robust program to return to. Our aides were not let go and have been assigned mainly to the younger grades. Online, they will work with small groups of students delivering lessons designed by the classroom teacher to address differentiation in learning needs.My county still has a high infection rate, so our county health department does not advise return to in person teaching and learning.

Tell your grandson that this teacher cried too. I'd much rather be together with my students in person but not at the risk of anyone's health and safety. Again, I can only speak for my school district but between our summer planning and great communication with parents and the community at large, the return to distance learning will look much different than it did in the spring.

Dx IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Aug 1, 2020 04:47AM spookiesmom wrote:

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Aug 1, 2020 06:15AM flashlight wrote:

exbrnxgrl, Good luck to you. Yes, even in the spring my daughter was working overtime. She still had daily lesson plans, teaching, and had to help my grandson at the same time. The school district had her call daily every student that didn't show up. Some mothers told her "try his cell". We also hope things will be different this time. She did help with grab n go meals and helped empty classrooms/lockers so students could pick up their belongings outside of the school. So far she has only been in her class room once. I think they will have more instruction in the next couple of weeks. The unknown is always scary.

My grandson's 2nd grade teacher did a drive by his house a few weeks ago and he was so excited to see her. I think his school will offer a mental health session to help the younger kids get through this.

I appreciate all teachers!! Best wishes to you.

Dx 11/15/2018, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx DCIS, Left, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes Radiation Therapy Whole breast Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lumpectomy: Left
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Aug 1, 2020 06:28AM - edited Aug 1, 2020 07:07AM by flashlight

Spookiesmom, Please don't make this political. Mikel Jollett is a musician who dislikes Trump. The virus isn't a Republican or Democrat virus. We are in a pandemic with unknowns and both sides have made mistakes. Even the scientist made mistakes. As a nation we will get through this, but it shouldn't mean we have to stay locked in our basements forever. In no way are we at the same level as we were in March. Much more is known and improved. The American people are resilient and we will get through this.

Dx 11/15/2018, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx DCIS, Left, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes Radiation Therapy Whole breast Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lumpectomy: Left
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Aug 1, 2020 08:13AM - edited Aug 1, 2020 08:15AM by ruthbru

I taught for 38 years & have been subbing for the last 7. I have no idea what the schools should do. I know that online learning doesn't hold a candle to the 'real' classroom experience (for the kids, and for the teachers), but also know that the safety measures that will be needed to even try to have in-person school will take out much of the fun & excitement of what we would consider to be a 'normal' school experience. Our governor has left it to each school district to decide, which makes sense as we have some towns who might have 8 kids in a whole GRADE. I live in a mid-size town. The middle school where I taught (and where I sub) is very old, with kids crammed into classrooms like sardines. No matter what measures they put in place, I don't see how they can follow the social distancing, 'stay out of crowded places' guidelines. I am 99.9% certain that I won't sub this year, at least until I see how it goes, as it is really just an experiment, isn't it? My heart goes out to my active teacher friends, the students, the parents, the administration, the School Board......every stakeholder. There are no 'right' answers at this point.

"Invisible threads are the strongest ties." Friedrich Nietzsche Dx 2/2007, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 0/11 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Aug 1, 2020 08:39AM spookiesmom wrote:

Guess you missed my previous posts where I’ve mentioned my DD is a music teacher in an elementary school with population of over 400. That she intends to keep her 2 kids out of their buildings until this is better. Or that I’m a very thankful to be retired bus driver.

Not intended to be political.

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Aug 1, 2020 08:49AM mavericksmom wrote:

Flashlight, Trump made the pandemic political, but I agree, it shouldn't be. I will say I am furious that Trump didn't do all he could to stop this from being as bad as it is, and I will always believe he is the cause of the death of thousands of innocent people. I have relatives in Europe who are pretty much back to normal, the Covid virus is under control because their leaders did what needed to be done early.

Opening schools is political, like it or not, a trickle down from the president. It is impacting how schools are opening.

I believe there are remote areas in most states that can safely return to school as they did prior to the pandemic, and areas that should not even consider opening in person for an extended length of time. That is why opening schools needs to be done locally, not state wide and certainly not nationally.

In a perfect world this would all be science based, not political based, but as we all know, that isn't the case and it won't ever be. Every district deals with politics all the time no matter who the president is, school board members are elected to that office.

So, moving forward, we all need to work within the rules that have been set in our individual communities. Going back isn't going to be easy for any of us. I am okay with going back to half the students, but not all. I think that is the way my district is leaning. I worked for years using sterile technique and while I can't say for certainty I won't get the virus, I am going to do what I can to avoid it. If called back into the building I plan to wear a face mask, face shield and gloves. I will clean surfaces, try to keep kids distanced safely, and once home immediately shower and change clothes. Shoes will be off at the door as they are now.

I worry about how opening will play out. Some here said they are opening remotely but a parent of elementary students must be present for on line study and I don't know how that can happen! What about single parents, parents with jobs, etc.? I don't think any of the scenarios are going to work for all, which is why many districts gave options. Our lives have become so disrupted by this pandemic that I don't think "normal" will ever return. What we are doing is trying to find a new normal.

I do find it interesting that many of the parents in my area who are screaming the loudest that their kids need to be back in school full time, are also the parents who screamed that their kids had homework! I am not even talking about too much homework, I am talking about small amounts of homework. You can't learn math in school or remotely if you don't practice the problems after the lesson has been taught. Our school finally caved to parent pressure and gave up on grading homework, but let me tell you, it showed at test time and then those very same parents screamed that the tests were too hard for their child. In my district, the importance of education (not to be confused with importance of being IN a school building), has steadily declined over the last 20 years. I don't know how many other districts caved to the parents, but in my district, parents rule. That is why teachers and staff have not had even one survey about school openings, but parents have had two or three!

I hope this pandemic will have many positive effects on education. I attended Zoom conferences and other on line work shops this summer and they do have a permanent place in education. The middle school I am at already did their science and social studies curriculum using on line programs in the classroom prior to the pandemic.

Anyone who starts school in August, please find a few minutes to let us know how things go!

Dx 6/6/2003, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/24 nodes, ER+/PR+ Dx 12/4/2018, ILC, Left, 1cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Aug 1, 2020 10:35AM exbrnxgrl wrote:

flashlight, if it’s any consolationthe parents in my district care very much about education. I teach in Silicon Valley and parents are very active in their children’s educations and value achievement (sometimes too much!). They have no desire to go against country health department guidelines and most would not send their children to school under current conditions.

Dx IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, ER+/PR+, HER2-

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