Topic: Rant away about COVID, the vaccine, etc.

Forum: All things COVID-19 or coronavirus — A place to discuss the impact of COVID-19 (Coronavirus) on you and the ones you love.

Posted on: Aug 27, 2021 10:00PM - edited Sep 3, 2021 07:56PM by kbl

Posted on: Aug 27, 2021 10:00PM - edited Sep 3, 2021 07:56PM by kbl

kbl wrote:

Covid discussion.

De Novo ILC - No primary found. Mets to full spine, femurs, skull, and stomach. Dx 5/1/2019, ILC, Stage IV, metastasized to bone/other, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 9/20/2021 Faslodex (fulvestrant) Chemotherapy 9/27/2021 Xeloda (capecitabine) Hormonal Therapy Femara (letrozole) Targeted Therapy Ibrance (palbociclib)

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Aug 30, 2021 03:18PM - edited Aug 30, 2021 03:21PM by exbrnxgrl

runor,

I can't quite find it, because I don't remember which thread it was on, but someone posted info about everyday risks that people readily accept. The gist of it is that not all risk is equal in the human mind even if stats show that some things, like driving a car, carry greater risks than other activities we perceive to be risky but actually aren't. It is not hypocritical and for as much as I am a fact driven person, I acknowledge that for me and for most humans, there are certain risks we are willing to take even if we know the stats might not support our decision. I would say driving a car everyday is a prime example. I never hesitate to get in my car and drive somewhere. I do hesitate to put myself into large crowds or eat inside a restaurant. Hypocrisy? Nah, just a quirk of human nature and I'm ok with that.

PS: If someone knows where that post is or if you were the op, can you please post the link again? Thank

Dx IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

Aug 30, 2021 03:22PM moth wrote:

There is NYT article on the risks... it's paywalled if you've used up your free articles for the month but there's a copy on the Wayback Machine https://web.archive.org/web/20210522210400/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/well/live/putting-the-r...

The article talks about "micromorts"

"The average American endures about one micromort of risk per day, or one in a million chance of dying, from nonnatural causes, such as being electrocuted, dying in a car wreck or being struck by an asteroid (the list is long)."

"an individual living in New York City has experienced roughly 50 additional micromorts of risk per day because of Covid-19. That means you were roughly twice as likely to die as you would have been if you were serving in the U.S. armed forces in Afghanistan throughout 2010, a particularly deadly year."

I take weekends off

Initial dx at 50. Seriously?? “Sometimes the future changes quickly and completely and we’re left with only the choice of what to do next." blog: Never Tell Me the Odds

Dx 12/2017, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Surgery 12/12/2017 Lumpectomy; Lumpectomy (Left); Lymph node removal Chemotherapy 2/14/2018 AC + T (Taxol) Radiation Therapy 8/13/2018 Whole breast: Breast Dx 2/2020, IDC, Left, Stage IV, metastasized to liver/lungs, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 3/18/2020 Taxol (paclitaxel) Immunotherapy 3/19/2020 Tecentriq (atezolizumab) Chemotherapy 11/26/2020 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy 12/9/2020 External Hormonal Therapy 12/16/2020 Femara (letrozole) Radiation Therapy 3/3/2021 External Local Metastases 3/3/2021 Radiation therapy: Bone Targeted Therapy 1/1/2022 Trodelvy (sacituzumab govitecan-hziy) Chemotherapy 6/1/2022 Other

Aug 30, 2021 03:27PM - edited Aug 30, 2021 03:30PM by melbo

runor — you are absolutely correct that everyone assess their risks and decide accordingly for their own personal safety. But again — the point I and several others keep trying to make is that it's not just about you and your risk. Your choice directly affects the people around you — from your loved ones to the people you casually interacts with. To make a similar comparison to yours — you are assuming risk for yourself when you drink alcohol, but if you are drinking and driving you are threatening other people's lives with your choices. And that is a key difference.

Diagnosed right before my 42nd birthday. One husband, two dogs, one cat and no kids. Dx 7/16/2020, IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 1/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Targeted Therapy 8/7/2020 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Targeted Therapy 8/7/2020 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Chemotherapy 8/7/2020 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 12/20/2020 Lumpectomy; Lumpectomy (Left); Lymph node removal; Reconstruction (Left); Reconstruction (Right) Radiation Therapy 1/31/2021 Whole breast: Breast, Lymph nodes

Aug 30, 2021 03:29PM moth wrote:

If you're not in active treatment, your risk is probably a lot lower. But the risk to others persists - to those in active treatment, those who have received organ transplants, those with immune diseases, those too young to be immunized, those who are elderly.

So why not take the step to protect others?

Communities are supposed to take care of each other. That's the premise of a community - we take all sorts of steps and accept limitations to make the community work, and for the public good. This is one of those times when people need to pull together to make life safer for everyone in the community.

I only wish BC had implemented the vaccine passport faster... and made it a broader roll out (right now they're missing post-secondary except for students living in residence which in BC is a minority of students as on campus living is nowhere near as common as it is in the US)

I take weekends off

Initial dx at 50. Seriously?? “Sometimes the future changes quickly and completely and we’re left with only the choice of what to do next." blog: Never Tell Me the Odds

Dx 12/2017, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Surgery 12/12/2017 Lumpectomy; Lumpectomy (Left); Lymph node removal Chemotherapy 2/14/2018 AC + T (Taxol) Radiation Therapy 8/13/2018 Whole breast: Breast Dx 2/2020, IDC, Left, Stage IV, metastasized to liver/lungs, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 3/18/2020 Taxol (paclitaxel) Immunotherapy 3/19/2020 Tecentriq (atezolizumab) Chemotherapy 11/26/2020 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy 12/9/2020 External Hormonal Therapy 12/16/2020 Femara (letrozole) Radiation Therapy 3/3/2021 External Local Metastases 3/3/2021 Radiation therapy: Bone Targeted Therapy 1/1/2022 Trodelvy (sacituzumab govitecan-hziy) Chemotherapy 6/1/2022 Other

Aug 30, 2021 03:35PM - edited Aug 30, 2021 03:52PM by moderators

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Aug 30, 2021 03:40PM wrenn wrote:

Minimizing a pandemic is shameful. It is not just disagrreable but harmful. I realize some people will just follow the conspiracies because they are not very bright but well thought out ignoring a planet widehealth threat is unforgivable in my view.

Aug 30, 2021 03:45PM illimae wrote:

Exbrnxgrl and serenitystat, a big part of hesitation is what you all have stated too, if I recall, which is that this is science and data driven. I agree, some of us just haven’t reached the comfort level others have. Personally, I think that’s fine, so long as you are not potentially harming others with risky social behavior.

Also, here’s one of the earlier quotes I referred to. This is just an example, I DO NOT get medical advice from presidents past or present.


Diagnosed at 41 Stage IV De Novo Dx 11/16/2016, IDC, Left, 5cm, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, Grade 3, 3/13 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+ Chemotherapy 1/2/2017 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Targeted Therapy 1/2/2017 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Targeted Therapy 1/2/2017 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Surgery 6/26/2017 Lumpectomy; Lumpectomy (Left); Lymph node removal Radiation Therapy 8/10/2017 Breast, Lymph nodes Dx 10/5/2017, IDC, Left, 5cm, Stage IV, metastasized to brain, Grade 3, 3/13 nodes, ER+, HER2+ Radiation Therapy 10/20/2017 External Local Metastases 10/20/2017 Brain Radiation Therapy 4/18/2018 External Local Metastases 4/18/2018 Brain Radiation Therapy 5/23/2019 External Local Metastases 5/23/2019 Brain Surgery 1/22/2020 Radiation Therapy 2/17/2020 External Local Metastases 2/17/2020 Brain Radiation Therapy 7/20/2020 External Local Metastases 7/20/2020 Radiation therapy: Bone Radiation Therapy 12/4/2020 External Local Metastases 12/4/2020 Brain Targeted Therapy Tukysa (tucatinib) Chemotherapy Xeloda (capecitabine) Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)

Aug 30, 2021 03:48PM - edited Aug 30, 2021 03:54PM by moderators

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Aug 30, 2021 03:54PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

illimae,

I highly doubt Biden came up with at statement on his own. He is not a medical expert and relies on those on his team who are to advise him. That aside, yes, that statement was indeed made and at the time, thought to be true. It still is in the vast majority of cases, but as any scientist worth his salt knows, science is not immutable and should never be as more is learned.So yes, that statement should now include a qualifier but overall those who are vaccinated are hospitalized and die at much lower rates than the unvaccinated.

Dx IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

Aug 30, 2021 03:54PM - edited Aug 30, 2021 03:55PM by moderators

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