Topic: Rant away about COVID, the vaccine, etc.

Forum: All things COVID-19 or coronavirus — A place to discuss the impact of COVID-19 (Coronavirus) on you and the ones you love.

Posted on: Aug 27, 2021 10:00PM - edited Sep 3, 2021 07:56PM by kbl

Posted on: Aug 27, 2021 10:00PM - edited Sep 3, 2021 07:56PM by kbl

kbl wrote:

Covid discussion.

De Novo ILC - No primary found. Mets to full spine, femurs, skull, and stomach. Dx 5/1/2019, ILC, Stage IV, metastasized to bone/other, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 9/20/2021 Faslodex (fulvestrant) Chemotherapy 9/27/2021 Xeloda (capecitabine) Hormonal Therapy Femara (letrozole) Targeted Therapy Ibrance (palbociclib)

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Aug 30, 2021 03:59PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

Mods,

I haven’t seen anyone attacked! Yes, this topic generates very strong feelings but we seem to be dealing with it. I would like to thank you for warning against Ivermectin. With both the FDA and Merck (maker of the drug) warning against its use in COVID tx, it is important that folks really think about the very real risks in considering it.

Dx IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

Aug 30, 2021 04:00PM illimae wrote:

That’s my point exactly, for me, I don’t know enough and the vaccines currently available are not worth the risk they pose to me personally. Many like me, are no necessary against it at all, we are just waiting for more solid results.

Diagnosed at 41 Stage IV De Novo Dx 11/16/2016, IDC, Left, 5cm, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, Grade 3, 3/13 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+ Targeted Therapy 1/1/2017 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Chemotherapy 1/2/2017 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Targeted Therapy 1/2/2017 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Surgery 6/26/2017 Lumpectomy; Lumpectomy (Left); Lymph node removal Radiation Therapy 8/10/2017 Breast, Lymph nodes Dx 10/5/2017, IDC, Left, 5cm, Stage IV, metastasized to brain, Grade 3, 3/13 nodes, ER+, HER2+ Radiation Therapy 10/19/2017 External Local Metastases 10/19/2017 Brain Radiation Therapy 4/18/2018 External Local Metastases 4/18/2018 Brain Radiation Therapy 5/23/2019 External Local Metastases 5/23/2019 Brain Surgery 1/22/2020 Radiation Therapy 2/16/2020 External Local Metastases 2/16/2020 Brain Radiation Therapy 7/20/2020 External Local Metastases 7/20/2020 Radiation therapy: Bone Radiation Therapy 12/4/2020 External Local Metastases 12/4/2020 Brain Targeted Therapy Tukysa (tucatinib) Chemotherapy Xeloda (capecitabine) Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)

Aug 30, 2021 04:10PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

Understood, illimae. My personal feeling is that although we don’t know every possible side effect nor how the vaccine might effect a given individual, we simply don’t have the luxury of waiting a year or two or more. This is a worldwide pandemic now and it has to be dealt with now. I do know enough about these (MRNA) vaccines, cells and biology in general to feel comfortable . My older daughters partner was hesitant about MRNA technology but he did get the J&J. His father is a vet. Ivermectin anyone?

Dx IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

Aug 30, 2021 04:14PM wrenn wrote:

Stifled for making a general observation.

Oh well.

Aug 30, 2021 04:16PM muska wrote:

I am glad to see more vaccination mandates created every day - be it at states, city or employers levels. I am hearing some insurance companies have started telling their members they would not cover some COVID related costs if patients are unvaccinated. I think this will be the best incentive to get a shot. After all why should the community pay for those who don’t care about it? Somebody used the phrase “responsible unvaccinated.” There’s no such a thing, not in my book


Dx at 54 Dx 5/9/2013, DCIS/IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 7/11 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 6/13/2013, LCIS, Both breasts Surgery 6/13/2013 Mastectomy; Mastectomy (Left); Mastectomy (Right); Reconstruction (Left): Tissue Expander; Reconstruction (Right): Tissue Expander Chemotherapy 7/25/2013 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery 2/20/2014 Reconstruction (Left); Reconstruction (Right) Hormonal Therapy 3/12/2014 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 3/23/2014 Breast, Lymph nodes Local Metastases 3/23/2014 Radiation therapy: Bone

Aug 30, 2021 04:23PM - edited Aug 30, 2021 09:08PM by moderators

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Aug 30, 2021 04:26PM runor wrote:

Melbo - I understand your point about it's' not just about me'. But I think there is a whole lot of nuance in that argument. And it's a lot of ground to cover so I won't bother. We are each dug in, you to your chosen position and me to my not- quite- convinced -yet position. 

Micromort. I have never heard that word before. I think I will name my next dog Micromort. I also have less than zero faith in anything printed in the New York Times, if that is indeed where the micromort chart was printed. 

Calling someone (and I figured it was me) She Who Shall Not Be Named is a low, low blow. It is easy to kick dirt on someone when you remove their humanity and that is 100% what that move was. Open season on people who are so low that they have no name. Not cool. Not gracious. Not dignified. Not civilized. 


I have found here, and in other places this topic is discussed (discussed! More like the Hatfields and Macoys!) that the first thing people throw off is their dignity, their civility and their humanity. Covid did not make everyone on the planet my enemy! Did not make me your enemy! We are ALL in some way feeling serious pain from this event. That most people smirk and find that 'good' when the other side suffers, that is the bigger global problem. That most people, when push comes to shove, will elbow their neighbour in the face to gain a foothold on something. Will push people out of lineups on big box black friday sales. Relationships are being torn to shreds all over the place by this. The fabric of our society and culture is torn to pieces. And I still, with my mouth hanging open in stupified horror, cannot see how any of it is justified. 



Dx 3/23/2017, IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 4/12/2017 Lumpectomy; Lumpectomy (Left); Lymph node removal Radiation Therapy 7/5/2017 Whole breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)

Aug 30, 2021 04:27PM alwaysmec wrote:

Regarding the vaccine not working for some. My daughter cannot create enough antibodies to fighf measles. She was vaccinated as a baby/child. When the recent measles outbreaks happened, our pediatrician advised getting titers checked because we came back from a vacation in Disneyland, one of the affected places. She didn't have enough antibodies to mount an effective response. We tried vaccinating her three more times with the MMR shots to no avail. Vaccines don't work one hundred percent of the time. That is why high percentages of people are needed to achieve herd immunity. My daughter has been vaccinated with MMR 6 times! She still needs herd immunity to protect her from measles. It doesn't mean the vaccine doesn't work. It just means she is one of the few it doesn't work on.

Chemotherapy 4/29/2021 Other Targeted Therapy 4/29/2021 Kanjinti Targeted Therapy 4/29/2021 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Targeted Therapy 9/2/2021 translation missing: en.treatments.targeted_therapy.targeted_therapy_medicine.short_options.phesgo Targeted Therapy 9/20/2021 Herceptin (hylecta) Surgery 9/23/2021 Lumpectomy (Left); Lymph node removal (Left): Sentinel Chemotherapy 11/12/2021 Other Targeted Therapy 5/3/2022 translation missing: en.treatments.targeted_therapy.targeted_therapy_medicine.short_options.phesgo Dx IDC/DCIS, Left, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/4 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+, ISH, IHC

Aug 30, 2021 04:29PM serenitystat wrote:

illimae - Biden's quote is easy. I don't take medical advice from politicians. I thought due to severe risk of allergy you're medically exempt? Is that official or do you want a vaccine? After my first dose I needed to confirm my reaction did not qualify as an exemption. I spoke to several HCWs and the vaccinator nurse checked the protocol to confirm I could get the second dose. If you're interested in the vaccine, what possible effects concern you?

🌻 🇺🇦 BCO leaked our private data. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ . . . . . "Do not overlook the little joys!" (Hesse, 1905) 🐶Dx.11/2015.IDC.L.IIIC.10/11nodes.++- ☕️12/2015.L.Mast 🛀2/2016.4AC.12Taxol.fasted 🖼9/2016.Rads.Nodes.ChestWall.15+4boosts 🥐10/2016.Tamox(2.5y) 🌲4/2019.Exemestane 🎭12/2019.Ibrance/Xgeva 🕊

Aug 30, 2021 04:43PM muska wrote:

Unvaccinated adults hospitalized with Covid-19 cost the American health system at least $2.3 billion in June and July this year, according to research by the Kaiser Family Foundation, most of which will be borne by society as a whole and not by the unvaccinated patients.
Dx at 54 Dx 5/9/2013, DCIS/IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 7/11 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 6/13/2013, LCIS, Both breasts Surgery 6/13/2013 Mastectomy; Mastectomy (Left); Mastectomy (Right); Reconstruction (Left): Tissue Expander; Reconstruction (Right): Tissue Expander Chemotherapy 7/25/2013 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery 2/20/2014 Reconstruction (Left); Reconstruction (Right) Hormonal Therapy 3/12/2014 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 3/23/2014 Breast, Lymph nodes Local Metastases 3/23/2014 Radiation therapy: Bone

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