Aug 29, 2021 03:05AM
I try to stay out of Covid discussions but just wanted to note:
blue22- we actually ARE in the Twilight Zone, if you think about it. The classic episode The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street is very much about what happens when "normality" is disrupted by the unknown and the levels of paranoia and divisiveness that emerge in what previously appeared to be polite, rational society.
Hell, you could even apply the closing narration to Covid Times:
The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices...to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill...and suspicion can destroy...and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own—for the children and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.
Social media and the internet amplify messaging and information to larger online communities of people who self-select to consume info and sources that align with a specific world view. In effect the whole developed world is now Maple Street.
KBL - the reason there aren't stories of survival is because either folks get sick at a mild level and its not worth mentioning, or folks get really sick and are intubated, at which point their chances of survival diminish significantly. From the stats posted above, most of those in the hospital right now are the unvaxxed. If they are able to come off ventilation, then potentially they are still in the hospital or in some form of care still at this point in the US Delta wave. Unless your question is more about why are we only hearing about the vocal unvaxxed Covid deaths and not survival of the unvaxxed in the hospital? See above. Think back to the first wave and how there would be a very few stories here and there of the survival of some people against the odds. The unvaccinated are essentially still playing the first game, with the same hospital survival odds, but with a more virulent strain.
The CDC and WHO datasets are accepted globally as standards and data of record, as would be any other national stats agency for their own Covid measurements. If you question data omission its usually as simple as the figure has not been collected for various reasons - sampling difficulty, cost considerations, or simply there are better health measurements available.
The other issue with the "official" figures is that it is very very easy for anyone - journalist, citizen, podcaster, etc - to take data and misunderstand or misuse the figures, wittingly or unwittingly. I work with a lot of public data and when I publish a public paper (which then becomes the data of record for this sector) I have to have any figures Ive used, and the analysis I have done and written up, checked by two or three data scientists and statisticians. Many times I have misinterpreted a figure where a one word detail made all the difference between what I concluded and what the data was actually saying. Add in the different measurement systems in different countries, different definitions, and different data collection systems (not to mention data collection lag) and trying to cross-assess and compare Covid calculations is extremely challenging without it being your day job.
Aprilgirl - at this point the only thing keeping a lid on Lambda is Delta's competitive ability. I think I read last week that Pfizer said they could get an updated vaccine brewed in 95 days or so (outside of manufacturing time) which is amazing to think about, though let's hope it doesn't come to that point too soon.
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