Aug 28, 2021 01:11PM - edited Aug 28, 2021 01:11PM by alwaysmec

Illimae, I think you're lucky because you don't have to worry about a ton of people around you that could possibly have Covid, so I get the outrage. I live in Hawaii. We had one of the lowest rates in the Country until travel without restrictions opened up again and locals brought back the virus to spread among themselves. Although we have nearly 70 percent vaccinated, my area is only at 35 percent. I feel safer on the other side of the island than the side I live in. Unlike you, if I go out and just try to be a normal person, I am likely to encounter someone who can pass it along. It sucks for me and it's not fair. So, I am the opposite and feeling outrage that I have to be super extra cautious and not go out like I want to. It's all about risk. You are low risk there and I am high risk here. Before this surge I felt safe going out.

You know what also sucks? And this isn't towards you -- That some people view immune compromised as second class citizens, so they feel that they have to sacrifice. Not cool. It's like well he died cause he had diabetes. You know what that diabetes was manageable and that person volunteered at the freaking homeless shelter while you sit on your butt all day complaining about a mask making you breath in your stank breath! People expect immune compromised individuals to just sit back and be left out because nobody cares about them anyway. I hate that I have to think twice about someone not wanting to mask up to protect me cause I am freaking masking up to protect that person and myself. Then they get all the privileges. Rant over.

We are just all fed up. Stupid Covid.

Aug 28, 2021 01:19PM wrenn wrote:

I was afraid of the side effect of the vaccine but was more afraid of death or even ventilator All drugs have side effects. The intended use of a drug is to create a side effect. My chemo caused permanent neuropathy which I was warned about but chose neuropathy over possible death.

Aug 28, 2021 01:23PM wc3 wrote:

Olma61:

I am just curious to hear more of your perspectives because they are very different from mine and I am trying to understand. Why do you feel showing your card at Olive Garden is an indignation? I've never been asked to show mine at a restaurant as I have not been dining in anywhere but I feel very proud that I have been vaccinated and would be happy to show my card regardless of whether there was a mandate to do so or not. I feel I have done a positive thing for society by getting vaccinated. I've been disappointed by the times I've had my card in my hand ready to show it and no one has asked to see it.

How do you feel that government mandates requiring restaurants limit entry to those who furnish proof of vaccination differ from existing laws and health and safety codes? For example, limiting entry to restaurants to those who are wearing shirts and shoes, and limiting alcohol sales, and entry to bars and night clubs to those over 21 who show valid proof of ID?

Aug 28, 2021 01:31PM jhl wrote:

Ok, a thought exercise. I hope everyone knows that mRNA technology is not new, right? It's been around since the 1980's & has been utilized in all sorts of clinical trials. There is currently a trial at MDAnderson with Stage 2 & 3 colon cancer patients. After surgery, these patients have their tumors sent for mutations. Then, a specific mRNA vaccine is developed for each patient which targets their mutations. Just like with Covid vaccines, the mRNA tells the patient's cancer cells to produce protein fragments based off the tumor mutations. The immune system then searches for other cells with the same mutations & clears out any circulating tumor cells. Thus, a much lower chance of metastasis.

Would you take that mRNA vaccine if it could be designed for you??

Oh, another note - the current research indicates the heart effects are due to Covid, not the mRAN technology. All viruses can & often do cause myocarditis & pericarditis. It is a seasonal side effect of viruses & can happen to anyone anywhere after any kind of a viral illness. This is not a new disease at all. It has been a well known cause of heart failure & occurs anywhere between 1-3% of those infected with any virus - from the common cold to HIV, measles, chicken pox & yes, Covid.

Stay well,

Jane

Aug 28, 2021 01:37PM - edited Aug 28, 2021 01:40PM by exbrnxgrl

oops sorry! I know that so please don't assume it was a lack of knowledge. I have an excellent understanding of biology but don’t always do as well with keyboarding.Guess I just hit the v key and kept going with the wrong word 🤨. I'll edit it, thanks.