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Topic: Ovary suppression+AI. Things to keep you looking young?

Forum: Young With Breast Cancer —

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Posted on: Mar 4, 2019 03:08PM

Fritzmylove wrote:

I had my first Zoladex shot today, and will begin Femara tonight. I hate to sound vain, but I'm worried about how this will affect my skin. Obviously staying alive is #1 priority so I'm going to comply with MO's orders, but what are some things I can do/products I can use to help will premature aging? I'm 35.

CHEK2+ Dx 9/19/2018, IDC, Right, 6cm+, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 9/30/2018 TAC Surgery 2/20/2019 Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Right; Prophylactic mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Hormonal Therapy 3/4/2019 Femara (letrozole), Zoladex (goserelin) Radiation Therapy 4/22/2019 Whole-breast: Lymph nodes, Chest wall
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Mar 4, 2019 03:15PM ElaineTherese wrote:

Hi!

I haven't suffered from premature aging while doing OS + AI. It may depend on your skin type. I have always had oily skin, and I still get zits on this regimen.

I do feel a little creaky when I get up in the morning or if I've been sitting for too long. I believe it's important to keep moving and to exercise when you get the chance.

DX IDC June 28, 2014, 5 cm., 1 node tested positive (fine needle biopsy); 0/20 after neoadjuvant chemo + ALND; Grade 3; ER+ PR+ HER2+ Neoadjuvant chemotherapy starting 7/23/14 ACX 4, Taxol X 12, Perjeta X 4; Herceptin: one year Chemotherapy 7/23/2014 AC Targeted Therapy 9/17/2014 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Targeted Therapy 9/17/2014 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 9/17/2014 Taxol (paclitaxel) Surgery 1/12/2015 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary Hormonal Therapy 2/25/2015 Aromasin (exemestane), Zoladex (goserelin) Radiation Therapy 3/9/2015 Breast, Lymph nodes
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Mar 4, 2019 08:09PM Salamandra wrote:

Can you see a dermatologist? I was able to get tretinoin covered by my insurance, which hadn't previously been covered, and I'm sure it's because of the connection to the cancer treatment (for me, tamoxifen). Unfortunately the dermatologist also wanted to sell me a couple other of her extremely expensive products. But who knows, maybe they really are good.

Dx at 39. 1.8cm. Oncotype 9. Dx 9/19/2018, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery 10/17/2018 Lumpectomy; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Hormonal Therapy 11/1/2018 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Radiation Therapy 12/2/2018 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/18/2019 Fareston (toremifene)
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Mar 5, 2019 01:30AM applejuice wrote:

Salamandra,

How long have you been using tretinoin and do you see any improvement on the appearance of wrinkles?

Diagnosed at 48 on routine annual mammo, non‐palpable lesion, 1.3 cm tumor (Grade 1, Luminal A). 98% ER+, 95% PR+, Her2-, Ki67 5%. Oncotype: 12. Dx 11/30/2018, DCIS/IDC: Tubular, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 1/23/2019 Lymph node removal: Sentinel Surgery 2/1/2019 Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement
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Mar 5, 2019 05:33PM Salamandra wrote:

Only about a week, it ended up taking ages to get the supply. So I can't really talk about impact yet. Keeping my fingers crossed though!

I had been using Paula's Choice products, including her body retinol cream, so that's related to tretinoin, for years. My skin is still aging, and it's impossible to really know the impact, but overall I'm happy with it and think my skin has looked good.

Dx at 39. 1.8cm. Oncotype 9. Dx 9/19/2018, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery 10/17/2018 Lumpectomy; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Hormonal Therapy 11/1/2018 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Radiation Therapy 12/2/2018 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/18/2019 Fareston (toremifene)
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Mar 6, 2019 02:30AM applejuice wrote:

Let's hope it will make a difference! I guess I'm trying to prepare myself for what will be coming in the next months and years....

Diagnosed at 48 on routine annual mammo, non‐palpable lesion, 1.3 cm tumor (Grade 1, Luminal A). 98% ER+, 95% PR+, Her2-, Ki67 5%. Oncotype: 12. Dx 11/30/2018, DCIS/IDC: Tubular, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 1/23/2019 Lymph node removal: Sentinel Surgery 2/1/2019 Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement
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Mar 6, 2019 02:59AM Meow13 wrote:

I think I have aged horribly after AI treatments. Thinking of a face and neck lift, my skin and hair seem ok. I do have some wrinkles.

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Mar 6, 2019 06:42AM Salamandra wrote:

I want to butt out of here because I'm not on OS, just wanted to add the dermatology recommendation. But I will say that it seems like for many of us on anti-hormonals, poor sleep/insomnia is a real thing. And that can be very aging on the face/body :(

Dx at 39. 1.8cm. Oncotype 9. Dx 9/19/2018, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery 10/17/2018 Lumpectomy; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Hormonal Therapy 11/1/2018 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Radiation Therapy 12/2/2018 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/18/2019 Fareston (toremifene)
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Mar 6, 2019 07:53AM dtad wrote:

Hi everyone...unfortunately aromatase inhibitors do speed up the aging process. We need estrogon for every vital organ including skin. I have used tretinoin for almost 30 years! I started it for adult acne but have continued it through my 60s. IMO it has definitely helped with wrinkles, skin texture and acne. I also use several other products on my skin. I do use some Paula's Choice products including the body cream with retin A.Good skincare is a must as well as staying out of the sun! However, it will never render the results of Botox, fillers or face/neck lifts. I'm happy to share my routine if anyone is interested. I'm 66 and have been asked how my children are doing in school! My children are 42 and 38! So I guess I'm doing something right!

Dx 3/20/2015, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 4/10/2015, ILC, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 5/21/2015 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant
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Dec 26, 2019 01:04AM MikaMika wrote:

Ladies, please, please share your findings!

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Jan 6, 2020 04:47AM - edited Jan 6, 2020 04:54AM by blah333

Using various oils on the skin + essential oils can really hydrate your face and fine lines and make you feel silky smooth. I am not on AI but have just enjoyed the effects of these oils on my dehydrated skin. (In the past I've taken medications that had a dehydrating/aging effect on my face) There are many to choose from and experiment with. I get them on iherb.com -- rose hip oil, apricot oil, almond oil, avocado oil, joboba, I just got primrose oil and grapeseed oil and argan oil. Trying to see which ones I like best. Different ones work better on various skin issues, skin types, or parts of the body. So far I have one pump of oil for my body and one for my chest (that has castor oil and peppermint and maybe helps the lymphatic system) and will make one for my face, probably an AM one, a PM one, and some oils are known to help around the eyes. I am still compiling the information about which oil is best for what, and deciding which mixtures to make. Some penetrate more than others, some focus on fine lines, others are more anti-inflamatory and help healing, etc... but moisturizing and nourishing your skin goes a long way with them! I've found these oils are way more effective and cheaper than anti-aging products or beauty lotions. You can also add a drop of essential oils into these carrier oils, again they address different issues like helping sunspots decline, shrinking pores etc. It is a little work to do research but worth it. You can get little glass pumps on ebay or reuse one from another beauty product.

Age 35 at diagnosis Dx 9/2017, DCIS, Left, 6cm+, Stage 0, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+ Surgery 11/30/2017 Mastectomy: Left, Right
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Jan 6, 2020 10:09AM MikaMika wrote:

blah333,

Thank you so much for your advice!

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