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Topic: Soy and progest. cream

Forum: High Risk for Breast Cancer — Due to family history, genetics, or other factors.

Posted on: Sep 5, 2007 02:42PM

MsSherry wrote:

Are these safe to use in high risk women? I take a soy suppliment and also use a proges. cream to help with hot flashes. I have read that both can cause breast cancer.

Sherry Dx 4/25/2008, DCIS, 6cm+, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Sep 7, 2007 03:07PM MsSherry wrote:


Sherry Dx 4/25/2008, DCIS, 6cm+, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Sep 8, 2007 04:14PM awb wrote:

MissSherry--I don't really know the final answer. I think they advise women who have estrogen positive bc to stay away from soy amd estrogen containing creams.  I have LCIS (a non-invasive bc) and I have always tried to avoid anything like that, but recently tried a soy tablet per my gyn AND my onc suggestion (didn't help any with any menopausal symptoms, so I said forget it), as they said it was OK in moderation.
 So I guess each doctor feels diferently on the subject.  I feel safer not taking it myself.
"I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds the future" Dx 9/5/2003, LCIS, Stage 0, 0/0 nodes Surgery 9/15/2003 Lumpectomy: Right Hormonal Therapy 10/29/2003 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery 4/4/2005 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy 2/27/2009 Evista (raloxifene)
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Sep 9, 2007 10:25AM - edited Sep 9, 2007 10:26AM by wallycat

I just saw my oncologist again on Friday and asked him about soy and flax.

He's originally from MD Anderson and attends a TON of cancer conferences.

The concensus it seems is that pills/concentrated anything is possibly bad and should be avoided.

Soy in real food like tofu or soymilk, flax sprinkled on cereal or baked in bread...these are all fine and will unlikely cause any issues.

The isolated, over-dosaged stuff in pills is what he objected to.

Dx 4/07 1 month before turning 50; ILC 1.8cm, ER+/PR+, HER2 neg., Stage 1, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes. Onco score 20, Bilateral Mast., tamoxifen 3-1/2 years, arimidex-completed 4/20/2012
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Sep 9, 2007 10:36AM MsSherry wrote:

Thanks.  I think it would be best then to stay away.  I am very lumpy (scheduled lumpectomy/core biopsy).  My family history (mom, mgma, pgma, sis, aunt) all had ER+ breast cancers.

Sherry Dx 4/25/2008, DCIS, 6cm+, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Sep 27, 2007 05:21PM darkfairy wrote:

I had ER+ and PR+ tumours (pre cancerous) but wasn't told anything about eating soya (I'm vegan) or using progesterone cream(which I was using for period pains). I've been making benign tumours since I was about 14, which was long before I turned vegan or used the creams so I guess the reasoning was that it hadn't really changed my situation. I know a herbalist advised me not to take agnus castus, which you're supposed to avoid if you have hormonal cancers. It's a controversial topic and one there's no definite answer to yet :/

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Sep 30, 2007 09:29PM sherry7 wrote:

all the research I have found, being possitive.  I read more than not that say don't use these things, so as not to have another thing to worry about, I don't.  I led the typical healthy vegan massage therapist diet and excercised, nursed the babies, used progesterone cream when the flashes hit and always had soy in diet...till diagnosed in oct two years much has changed, not just food.  At first I was even afraid of food, pretty silly huh... Good luck in your journey to health and healing, sherry

let the miracles happen... Dx 9/17/2005, DCIS, 1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/0 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+
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Oct 1, 2007 06:03PM - edited Oct 1, 2007 06:03PM by Traci-----TripNeg

Jeez MissSherry,

I'm so sorry to hear about your family history. Frown

I thought mine was bad....please don't take everything you read to heart. Did you see the new list of "12 things that will give you breast cancer". Good Lord. We might as well not eat, drink, drive, work or live in order to avoid it.

Good luck girl.

Hugs, Traci

Trip Neg BRCA + If I never look behind me, my troubles will be few. Supertramp. Dx 2/12/2007, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIIB, Grade 3, 0/14 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-

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