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Forum: Fitness and Getting Back in Shape — Conversations about exercise, diet, and getting back in shape after breast cancer diagnosis and treatment.

Posted on: Aug 26, 2018 01:39PM - edited Sep 15, 2018 04:08PM by Jadedjo

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This too shall pass. It might pass like a kidney stone but it will pass. Dx 7/2018, IDC, Right, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/1/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Prophylactic mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant
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Aug 26, 2018 02:28PM Murfy wrote:

I love Tai Chi! I attend classes 2 times a week. Great for maintaining strength and balance and is energizing and meditative as well. Can highly recommend!

Dx at 62: Oncotype=52; Path (ER=99%, PR=0%, Ki67=55%) Dx 10/2017, DCIS/IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Surgery 11/14/2017 Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 1/13/2018 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Hormonal Therapy 3/31/2018 Aromasin (exemestane)
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Aug 26, 2018 03:12PM WC3 wrote:

I've never really tried Tai Chi but as far as relaxation goes I really like crystal bowl sounds.


Dx 2018, IDC, Left, 3cm, Grade 3, ER+/PR+, HER2+ (FISH) Chemotherapy 6/1/2018 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 11/15/2018 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Targeted Therapy Perjeta (pertuzumab) Targeted Therapy Herceptin (trastuzumab)
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Aug 26, 2018 06:36PM Murfy wrote:

WC3, that was beautiful! My yoga instructor uses one (1!) at the end of class. Lovely sound....

Dx at 62: Oncotype=52; Path (ER=99%, PR=0%, Ki67=55%) Dx 10/2017, DCIS/IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Surgery 11/14/2017 Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 1/13/2018 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Hormonal Therapy 3/31/2018 Aromasin (exemestane)
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Aug 27, 2018 03:20AM Rae7200 wrote:

I love T’ai Chi! It’s relaxing and also good for balance and strengthening I took wonderful small classes about 20 years ago when it was convenient to work, but now that I’m retired, the only class I found was simply awful. The instructor broke a large class into small groups and had other students teach the class. Awful! I’m going to look for some DVD’s. Most of what I’ve found is not real T’ai Chi but someone’s knock off attempt to make money. Ugh.

Dx 10/24/2014, IDC, Left, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery 12/17/2014 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 3/10/2015 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 4/14/2015 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Dx 11/3/2017, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery 12/14/2017 Lymph node removal: Left Radiation Therapy 2/18/2018 External: Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 5/18/2018 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Aug 27, 2018 05:43AM Jadedjo wrote:

Thank you for your responses. 

This too shall pass. It might pass like a kidney stone but it will pass. Dx 7/2018, IDC, Right, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/1/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Prophylactic mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant
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Aug 27, 2018 06:24AM Whirlaway wrote:

I was always into weights/cardio but started Tai Chi during chemo. great for balance, relaxation and strengthening. I felt my posture improved.

Another cancer patient recommended this DVD to me and I absolutely loved it. 

https://www.thevillageofhealingandwellness.com/online-shop/recovery-qigong-for-individuals-with-cancer

Love the crystal bowl  sounds! My previous acupuncturist used healing tuning forks. Such an amazing sound as well and I felt energized after. I am thinking of buying some...


Dx 7/2016, IDC, Left, 6cm+, Stage IIB, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Surgery 8/30/2016 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel Chemotherapy 10/18/2016 AC + T (Taxol) Radiation Therapy 4/2/2017 Whole-breast: Breast
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Aug 27, 2018 11:27AM Jadedjo wrote:

Thanks for the link

:)

This too shall pass. It might pass like a kidney stone but it will pass. Dx 7/2018, IDC, Right, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/1/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Prophylactic mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant
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Aug 27, 2018 02:26PM Murfy wrote:

Taoist Tai Chi is the class I take. It costs nothing, but donations are accepted; same as my yoga. Only about 10 people in class. This type of Tai Chi can be found in most major cities. Can find out if your city/town has it by looking online.

Dx at 62: Oncotype=52; Path (ER=99%, PR=0%, Ki67=55%) Dx 10/2017, DCIS/IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Surgery 11/14/2017 Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 1/13/2018 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Hormonal Therapy 3/31/2018 Aromasin (exemestane)
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Aug 29, 2018 03:55PM Jadedjo wrote:

Good to know will look into it. Thank you deeply.

This too shall pass. It might pass like a kidney stone but it will pass. Dx 7/2018, IDC, Right, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/1/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Prophylactic mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant
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Sep 5, 2018 04:22PM LilacBlue wrote:

I can respond (just as all who have tried it) that tai chi is excellent for balance, strength and relaxation. I'm a tai chi instructor and teach a weekly seated tai chi class for those with severe Parkinson's; it even works seated! I'm board certified via Tai Chi for Health Institute. Click this link if you'd like to find a class near you: http://taichiforhealthinstitute.org/instructors/?country_id=233&region=&fn=Find

Nothing is ever the same as they said it was. It's what I've never seen before that I recognise. - Diane Arbus Dx 4/13/2012, DCIS/IDC, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 6/12/2012 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): DIEP flap, Nipple reconstruction
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Sep 6, 2018 06:31AM Jadedjo wrote:

Thanks 

unfortunately I checked and no instructors even near my area. Not too surprised we are not the nicest place to live. Hopefully I will be able to find something eventually that won't cost me money.

I appreciate the link.

This too shall pass. It might pass like a kidney stone but it will pass. Dx 7/2018, IDC, Right, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/1/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Prophylactic mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant
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Sep 6, 2018 07:27AM LoriCA wrote:

Jadedjo have you checked with your local hospitals? Several of the hospitals near me offer free wellness programs for cancer patients like art therapy, yoga, meditation, etc. I was hoping to find a Tai Chi class but instead I've been practicing Dayan Qigong at two different local hospitals for free. Qigong is an ancient Chinese healing exercise that is considered the grandmother of Tai Chi, and it is standard medical technique in China. In addition to the movements it includes self-massage of acupressure points, meditation, breathing, and since it's sponsored by the hospital the instructor is very well qualified. Dayan is just one of the Qigong forms that is supposed to best for overall healing and is supposed to help rid the body of toxins.

If your local hospital has a Women's Center or Cancer Center, I recommend checking what classes they might offer. Here in southern California Tai Chi or Qigong classes cost several hundred dollars a month from less qualified instructors, so being able to take them for free is a huge benefit The one thing I will point out since you mentioned your problems with yoga - I've been staying away from yoga because I have extensive bone mets in my spine. I was surprised to find out how much bending from the waist there is in Dayan Qigong, but my instructor is trained in working with cancer patients so she helps me modify movements to protect my spine when needed...and sometimes that means doing a movement from a seated position.

IBC Stage IV de novo - presented in right breast, within days spread into left breast, skin, chest wall, metastasized into brachial plexus (lost complete use of right arm for several months), liver and throughout skeleton. Dx 9/8/2017, IBC, Both breasts, Stage IV, metastasized to bone/liver/other, Grade 3, ER+/PR-, HER2+ (IHC) Chemotherapy 9/26/2017 Taxol (paclitaxel) Targeted Therapy 2/6/2018 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Targeted Therapy 2/6/2018 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 11/26/2018 Taxol (paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes, Chest wall
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Sep 6, 2018 10:44AM Jadedjo wrote:

LoriCa

Thanks.

I'm searching but for a place with a huge amount of cancer patients they don't have a whole lot of anything.they have a yoga class and a look better feel better program but my other health issues are causing issues with the yoga.

This too shall pass. It might pass like a kidney stone but it will pass. Dx 7/2018, IDC, Right, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/1/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Prophylactic mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant
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Sep 8, 2018 08:54AM LoriCA wrote:

Sorry you're having a hard time finding a class Jadedjo, I'm learning how lucky I am to have easy access to such things.

Have you tried checking with local senior centers, rec centers, YMCA? Those classes don't typically show up in a google search, you have to visit each website and check their calendar. Community colleges sometimes offer tai chi classes as part of their Adult Education offerings too, if you have one near you. Another suggestion, I don't know if you're familiar with the meetup.org website but I have found quite a few tai chi "in the park" sessions that welcome drop ins and are either free or very inexpensive (comparatively speaking). You have to be careful and read the description though, some are just practice sessions for people who have already had some training and you wouldn't get any individual instruction.

IBC Stage IV de novo - presented in right breast, within days spread into left breast, skin, chest wall, metastasized into brachial plexus (lost complete use of right arm for several months), liver and throughout skeleton. Dx 9/8/2017, IBC, Both breasts, Stage IV, metastasized to bone/liver/other, Grade 3, ER+/PR-, HER2+ (IHC) Chemotherapy 9/26/2017 Taxol (paclitaxel) Targeted Therapy 2/6/2018 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Targeted Therapy 2/6/2018 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 11/26/2018 Taxol (paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes, Chest wall
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Sep 8, 2018 06:49PM Jadedjo wrote:

Thanks 

This too shall pass. It might pass like a kidney stone but it will pass. Dx 7/2018, IDC, Right, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/1/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Prophylactic mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant

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