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I just got my explanation of benefits yesterday and my insurance was charged $9000 for the Neulasta shot that I received. I heard that it was ~$3000; $9000 is absolutely crazy
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How much were you all billed for Neulasta?
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I am so amazed that there is such a wide variation in costs and the amounts your various insurance carriers are willing to pay. One would think that insurers would have some sort of communal "ballpark" figure for tx. For example: why would Company A be okay with paying $11,000/neulasta shot while Company B only has to pay out half, or less than half, that amount?
What am I missing here?
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May 5, 2010 02:28AM
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I remember I skipped that shot one time and had a different shot....Yep, hospital for 4 days. Leg pain for days and my back killed me.
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May 5, 2010 07:42PM
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Madalyn, I understand what you're saying about the different insurance agreements with various health providers -- BUT -- I'm still a bit befuddled! Why would 123Donna's insurance company agree to pay $11,000 per neulasta shot when other insurers are paying far less? Why would it continue to deal with that particular provider when it would surely know that other providers are charging less? Or does the law of averages come into play?
I know I'm at a disadvantage here because I'm used to single-payer, non-profit healthcare (hmmm, some disadvantage eh?) where costs are the same across the board, so I have some difficulty in understanding all the ins and outs of the for-profit system But any way you slice it, in the end some patients (or their employers) are apparently paying more than the fair market price. This must surely be reflected in the cost of premiums....
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May 5, 2010 07:53PM
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Contact Cancer Care if you need financial help with Chemo. and Neulasta.
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My Neulasta was $12439.60 per shot, but the insurance company knocked it down to $2502.88 each time.
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Dec 3, 2011 10:18AM
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I received my EOB for Neulasta. The charge for
EACH of the 4 doses was $18,311.00.($73,244.00 total) The insurance paid $1,647.11 /dose. Thank heaven I am not responsible for the balance.
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Dec 3, 2011 04:59PM
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I haven't read this entire thread but the cost shown on my product box was about $1785 per shot. That's in Australia. I didn't pay a cent as it was prescribed in hospital and covered by some form of medical insurance. I have no idea why the cost for US ladies is so much higher.
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Dec 3, 2011 05:11PM
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Wow, I cannot believe the cost of these shots. I am in UK and had my first shot yesterday for free on the NHS, National Health Service.
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Feb 3, 2012 12:27AM
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$ 18,000.00 dollar Nuelasta shot at Moffitt Cancer Center for Mantle Cell Lymphoma Chemo Treatment . She will have 8 of these over 4 mths. Oh well ,if it saves her life , who gives a damn....i'd sell my house and everything else i have to save my tracy's life !
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Feb 9, 2012 02:27PM
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My onc pushed to give me a neupogen shot at $7,000. It was supposed to be 1 of 3, but bone pain from the first shot was so unbearable that pain meds didn't touch it. I felt like my back was broken, my ribs were broken and I had knives poking into my shoulder blades for 3 days! I refused to take anymore shots. My nutrition therapy (weekly Felice nutrition IVs and eating to boost WBC) works great, boosting neutrophils and WBC from low to high figures in just a few days. My onc said nutrition therapy doesn't work but I proved her wrong. Her own CBC test results don't lie.
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Feb 9, 2012 02:44PM
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Wow! I'm in Canada. Each Neulasta shot is $2500.
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Feb 9, 2012 02:55PM
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I only had one shot so far and it wasn't that bad. I had some bone pain in my legs and lower back for a couple of days but tylenol took care of it.
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Feb 9, 2012 04:03PM
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I know this is an old thread, but...
I'm working on my medical bills and am my head is rolling at the outrageous amounts on the medical bills. My neulasta shots are $5492 each.
My insurance company has a contracted rate with a mailorder pharmacy, so the MO's office has to order it from them.
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Feb 9, 2012 08:35PM
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My MO quoted $3500 per shot. Insurance is paying it 100%. Shot is given in oncologists office by nurse one day after chemo.
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Jun 3, 2012 11:59AM
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The phameceutical companies would like you to think the cost is to recover the cost of research and development but there is a very, very large element of B.S. in that statement. Any prior year expenses incurred in the development were written off in those years yet the companies' still prospered. Nor does that explanation explain why the companies' charge U.S. customers much higher amounts than overseas customers.
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I just started chemo on friday and had my first Neulasta shot yesterday...so far not feeling any side effects ...The cost in Ontario is $2650 per shot which fortunately insurance will cover. Amazing the differences in US and Canadian costs????
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Wow - some of these prices are crazy. The bill from the oncologist's office was $3600 for each shot, my insurance paid them $2200 and I've maxed out my copays so I don't pay anything.
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Cottontail- for those who don't have insurance, you can google the Neulasta website and apply to recieve FREE Neulasta from the company. I have insurance, but I complained bitterly about the $10,000 bill for my first Neulasta injection (after insurance adjustment, I paid $1500 for the shot) and my oncologists office applied to Neulasta for me and all of my following injections were FREE! I recieved something that looks like a credit card that I show the staff at the chemotherapy center.
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3/22/2012 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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9/11/2012 Lymph node removal: Right; Mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Latissimus dorsi flap
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Jul 2, 2013 09:03PM
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I know this thread is old but I had to comment on the cost of Neulasta as I see others continue to do so. My wife just finished chemo and took the a Neulasta shot after each of 6 cycles. We think it helped but blood counts were still erratic. Our insurance was billed at about $5,700 per shot but through the "negotiated” rates only paid $2,800. What’s really amazing is there’s only 6mg (mg = milligrams) of medicine in each shot at that price! If you do the math at $5,700 per 6mg that makes this stuff cost about $27 MILLION per ounce. That’s outrageous, even if made from Unicorn tears and Fairy dust. How much could it have really cost to research develop and manufacture? TO put in prospective, a regular 12 oz 6-pack (pardon the comparison) would cost almost $2 Billion! I know they’ve made at least that much of the stuff through the years.
Offering to pay part of the cost also makes me suspicious too.
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Although not available with every medicine, there are many resources to help with the costs of BC medications. You can read more about these plans and organizations at the Tips to Lower Medicine Costs on the main Breastcancer.org site.
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The reason you were billed the same is because Neulasta is a pre-filled single dose syringe. Sometimes the doctors will choose to lower your dose. So only part of a syringe is used. Due to it being a single dose, the remaining medication can not be reused and has to be discarded. When it is billed to the insurance we have to put your dose plus how much was wasted. So the total billed is always the same number of units.
Also in regards to cost, insurance only pays a certain % of medication regardless of what type of insurance. In order to break even, facilities must charge certain % higher so that insurances will reimburse the cost of the initial. I work in outpatient chemotherapy center. We do not make money on the medications. We make money on the administration. Very offer we actually lose money on the medication itself. With obamacare coming, I guarantee we will barely break even.
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Oct 14, 2015 01:05AM
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In 2009, mine was billed at $10,000 a pop x 4!.
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my hospital billed $18000 for a neulasta shot!!!! Cmon pharmaceutical company....that was my downpayment on my house!!! This is too screwed up for words. Yes, I think companies should make money for research but $18 grand a shot!?! I had four of these... Thats half my house...BS...it worked but what was in it, liquid gold? For that much it should cure the damn disease...so angry...
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Jul 14, 2016 09:13PM
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Four years ago my insurance company was billed $2,000 for each shot. I only know that because my copay was 10%. I had 10 shots, so I shelled out $2,000 just for the Neulasta. I haven't seen a bill for this round of Neulasta shots (only had 6, but used the auto-injector body button, which I loved) because it's covered at 100%. I can't comprehend how insurance companies can be billed so differently for the exact same medication.
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Jul 14, 2016 10:07PM
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I think I win this one so far. My hospital billed $23,000 per shot! I had 6. I thought that was extortionately expensive when I was on AC. But then came Taxol/Herceptin/Perjeta. For Herceptin they billed $46,000 per dose and Perjeta $93,000 each!!! I'm up to around 2 million dollars so far this year. I could mortgage my whole apartment, it would still only pay for one chemo session. And even then it doesn't guarantee a cure.
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5 years ago, around 800 Euros. Insurance paid. Each chemo treatment was around 650, including the actual drugs. Private hospital in Greece.
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Jul 16, 2016 12:23AM
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This is ridiculous the money they are charging... I am fortunate to have coverage and my Neulasta shots in Canada cost my insurance about $2400 all in.. I had 4 of them.
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5/24/2015, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
Surgery
6/8/2015 Lumpectomy: Left
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8/14/2015 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Jul 16, 2016 12:28AM
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Mine were a bit over $4,000 each. I had four.
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11/9/2015, IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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12/6/2015 Adriamycin (doxorubicin), Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxol (paclitaxel)
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5/11/2016 Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement