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Posted on: Jun 14, 2009 04:04PM
Hi all, I wanted to start a forum for all us that are using the cold caps to try to save our hair. I am on FEC100 X3 followed by Taxotere X3. My dosage unfortunately is not a guaranteed success. I am 40 days out from my first treatment and will have my third June 17. So far I have thinned but have not required a wig. I have no bald spots; however, around my right ear is the thinnest..I think because the cap wasn't tight there. All in all, I am pleased to still have a good covering. If you are using or have used the Cold Caps, I would love to hear your experience. Take care, Candy
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May 17, 2017 06:18AM GoKale4320 wrote:
MJPow - I love those t-shirts!!! And awww, you look like your dad. So glad you have such nice family support!
Finally posting some pics.
June 2016 - last year, long before this started.
February 1, 2017 - also before chemo but recovering from surgery
March 21, 2017 - about 2 weeks after my second round of chemo
Today: almost 4 weeks PFC
Have to give a shout out to my eye brows here and my daughter's eye brow make up. Also have Toppik on my head - medium brown. So happy to have the Toppik. I can't say if any hair has started to grow, but I don't think so.
May 17, 2017 09:28AM Hopfull2 wrote:
gokale, your hair is exactly like mine. Same length same everything. I had about an inch cut from bottom though like 3weeks ago because the bottom looked so thin and scraggly. In a few weeks when you feel your hair is a bit stronger you can put it up with a tiny butterfly clip
May 17, 2017 12:01PM Hanging_in_there wrote:
I'm 9 weeks PFC and I just noticed I have hair growing back on my legs, it is about 3/8 inch long. I guess I haven't been wearing shorts. I've lost weight and I'm wearing the few clothes I have that fit and aren't huge on me. Except I'm wearing huge tops due to surgery 3 weeks ago.
And OMG, my eyebrows and eyelashes have grown back. I have such poor vision, I have to take off my glasses and get next to a mirror to see and it never occurred to me I had grown back eyebrows, I always had a few, now I have to tweeze my unibrow.
Nine weeks and my hair has not started to grow back except a little underneath my bangs. My MO said 12 weeks a week or so ago, due to the fact I'm no longer a Spring chicken. It is going to be hard to spot, because my hair is mostly brown and white will be coming back.
I have finally stopped the shedding from chemo. I think I'm getting normal shedding now. (also 9 weeks).
But I may be back in chemo, in which case I will lose my hair. I will find out in a couple of weeks if I got into clinical trials. I don't have enough hair to save and I can't go thru cold cap brutality again.
May 17, 2017 12:25PM - edited May 18, 2017 07:37PM by Elastogelgirl
hanging in-are you taking a hair supplement? I think viviscal is awesome. I also thought you had a lot more hair in you photos than I did at the end. Perhaps us ACT gals all shed at different rates till we are just so thin it seems impossible. For me that happened during mid TC. Maybe you hung onto yours a bit longer and it is falling now? Don't know just seems we are all different. So I started growing hair back in in the areas I lost it earliest. Maybe you are on a later schedule. Could be hormones too. I'm sure you'll be growing some thick hair very soon.
Mj and loves green- thanks so much for the photos! Love them!
I posted this photo with my visor because I like the way my visor covers my super stringy hair on the side. It kinda pushes my troll hair upward Covering the thin zones. Also hides the areas that were previously bald on that sides. I have done a blonde henna rinse. Losing just a few strands these days at most. 8 weeks pfc.
I posted my worst low point hair wise down below so if you end up there know it can still work! That's a teeny tiny clip holding all my bits of hair in the first shot. I love my old visor...without it the hair just hangs in weird ways. My eyebrows are making their first appearance I did not loose all of them only the from the center to midway. Eyelashes starting to come in too. Started on latisse
Day before my last chemo 8 weeks ago. This has all filled in with salt and pepper baby hair. Next photo is also today 8 weeks pfc
8 weeks pfc. Time flew by. I'd rather be blonde but I'll take all the growth! The Henna hides the grey!
May 17, 2017 02:48PM - edited May 17, 2017 02:52PM by Mquara
feeling low today. I am 8 days past chemo 3 and have one more to go. TC. I am nearly bald from ear to ear over the top of my head. I now also have a bald spot on the back of my head right in the middle and another to the side. My hair is so dry, stringy, thin etc. I'm tired of the worry and drama and being careful. I'm tired of scratching gently and "dislodging" hair in the process. I just want my old hair back but that could take years and years and just the thought of being reminded of this for that long is making me angry
I'm trying to wean off my klonopin so I can drive soon. Not working too well for me obviously.
This whole thing sucks. I still have 7! weeks of rads to look forward too. At least my hair won't be affected but I have no clue how I am going to get past this moody, pissy, sorry for myself phase without my meds.
On a good note it's beautiful today and I enjoyed watching my kids go in the pool for the first time.
Piss and moan session over.
May 17, 2017 03:42PM Elastogelgirl wrote:
mquara-hang in there. Are you using toppik? I was so sad about my hair loss in my last days of chemo. I would do toppik regardless of weather i was alone or with people. It just helped so much not to see the bald. Helped me cope. If you hair looks like mine in the above photo you should be able to do some smoke and mirrors thing. Plus your hair is going to start growing and filling in the bald spots before you know it! You will be happier with it sooner than you think I'm guessing.
May 17, 2017 05:23PM Mquara wrote:
I have toppik but I have the aerosol one whic sprays wet. I think it was the wrong choice, it covers but after a day or two it starts itching and flakes so I hate using it and only rely on it close to wash day. I was told to drop down to washing once per week but out of stubbornness I am going with every 6 days so I am holding off on toppik use. I decided today to just buy the powder and the puffer top that goes with it on Amazon so it should be here Friday. Maybe that will be a better fit for me
I'm just feeling down and very alone. Nobody gets what this is like and if I complain about my hair the response is that I'm lucky I have hair. No I'm not. I'm lucky we can afford this and the technology is available. That's it. The rest is hard. It's painful, makes chemo longer, it zaps the energy out of you being cold for that long. It's hard not washing your hair every day, not brushing it, styling it. It's hard when you oh so carefully comb but you still shed every day. It's still hard to feel good about your appearance through this. I am thankful that it's available and would do it again, but there's nothing lucky about this whole thing.
Ok I'm really done now lol. This is why I tell my husband when we get to CTCA I feel relief. It's because I am surrounded by people in the same situation. They get it and there I'm not alone. Ditto here.
Hugs to all of us today, even if you're not having a bad day like me. ((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))
May 17, 2017 05:59PM Hanging_in_there wrote:
elastogel girl. I'm taking viviscal. I don't think I'm shedding anymore but a little hair comes out when I comb. But not the shedding I had 3 days ago.
Mquara. I feel the same as u about babying my hair. I so want to wash in the shower and then brush it. Do something for yourself. Be good to yourself.
Hugs to al
May 17, 2017 06:50PM Hopfull2 wrote:
mquara, I feel u all the way. Sometimes I feel like it would have made me feel more free just going bald but I was afraid of the possibility of permanent hair loss with the taxotere. But I too wanted to say screw all this with my hair. I still feel this way. I'm hoping soon I will not even have to think about my hair or lashes. Until then I pray for quick regrowth
May 17, 2017 07:01PM Fastgirl wrote:
MJPow--LOVE the T-shirts! Thanks for posting the photos of yourself, your Dad and cousin. You and your hair look great!!
Pamela23--You have so much new growth! Did you color? I don't know what I would have done without your recommendation of the Loreal spray.
GoKale--You look terrific! Thanks for sharing--we finished chemo about the same time. Friday will be 4 weeks for me.
Elastogelgirl --So happy to hear that you continue to see new growth!
Mquara--I too get so tired of the "babying" and just wish I could color, blow dry, flat iron instead of looking in the mirror at the frizzy, curly headed person that doesn't look like me. But you have hair! And it shouldn't take years to get back to where you started. I think you will like the new version of Toppik that you've ordered. I hope tomorrow is a better day, and you are always safe here.
May 17, 2017 08:36PM LowcountryGirl wrote:
Mquara...oh girl... I'm right there in piss and moan city with you. I had hair past my shoulders and now have bangs and then some lonely strands hanging in the back. I am way too bald for toppik... It looks like a pile of dirt on my head. I am rotating straw hats every day. I refuse the wig. I am almost 3 weeks PFC (4xTC) and I hand my husband a magnifying glass every day to look for sprouts. Nothing so far. I'm taking the viviscal but I think it will be several weeks before I see signs of life. I'm miserable. i think hats are going to be in my life for a long time. I don't feel like I will ever be the same. Argh
May 18, 2017 04:34AM EmHaich52 wrote:
I had my first chemo treatment on Momday and used the cold caps for the first time. All went well except that I had terrible nausea and vomiting from the caps during the entire seven hours of use. I know it was the caps because it started as soon as I put the first one on--even before the pre-meds started-- and would rise and fall with each new cap. It stopped as soon as i removed the final cap. I am desperate for a solution. The medicine for anti-nausea didn't help
May 18, 2017 06:04AM - edited May 18, 2017 06:07AM by GoKale4320
Thanks, ladies for the kind comments on my pics. I forgot to point out that I did not start off with a thick head of hair - I wore it shoulder length to help with the fullness. So if anyone down the road has a similar head of hair and wonders if they should cold cap, they can see my pics and decide. I did it because of the Taxotere. If I had been on a less intense drug, I might have skipped the cold cap.
Elastogelgirl - love the visor pics! You are creative with your head coverings. But I think you are regrowing a nice head of hair.
Hanging In - I, too, am checking for other body hair - any sign of life, so to speak. Hooray on the eye brows and lashes.
Hopfull - thanks for the suggestion. I decided a while back that I would be satisfied with a cute short hair style when my hair gets stronger. Maybe something that will grow back nicely.
Mquara - Regarding the babying of the hair - I agree; I am tired of it. I never dreamed it would be this much work. I do love the Toppik powder. It is so easy to use and I look much better with it. Hang in there. Someone said it won't take as long as you think for your hair to grow and for you to be happy with it. I agree. Based on what a handful of recent posters have said and who have done similar drug regimens, I am hopeful that I am just a few months away from great improvement. I try to distract myself with reading and sports on tv and just normal conversations with friends and family. It's just easier not to think about my hair.
Fastgirl - so cool that we finished the same time. Were you on TC like me?
SoniaL- I can't advise on the hairspray. But welcome and good luck with everything.
LowCountry - I had to LOL about asking your husband to look for regrowth. That's my husband's job, too. He doesn't love it because he doesn't want to tell me that he doesn't see anything. He's taller than me so he can see it better than me. You and I are nearly on the same schedule with the same drugs.
EmHaich52- Sorry you had so much trouble. Are you drinking lots of fluids days before chemo? Eating breakfast before? Maybe let the cap get a couple degrees warmer?
Take care, everyone!
May 18, 2017 06:57AM Amapola36 wrote:
Elastogirl, I will definitely be ordering the Viviscal. I'm 2 weeks PFC and my hair is still shedding like crazy. I'm using generous amounts of toppik, these days LOL
DYING to get my haircut. Is 4 weeks PFC ok, do y'all think?
May 18, 2017 07:16AM - edited May 18, 2017 07:24AM by Elastogelgirl
I think you should wait until the shedding calms down before you cut it. I know it's so hard and you want to get on with it. Patience, I did the henna rinse this i was so worried I would have regrets. I only went for it because I stopped shedding way early. Turns out it hardly made a difference color wise. Fortunately I did not lose hair but even though mine looks good in pics there is just not much left up there to lose.
Anyhow I say Stay with the program. I feel that if you are still shedding it is too early to mess with it. Time will fly by and you will know when you hair is back on a track. I so want to color mine but I'm more interested in getting some healthy growth. Can you get by with a silk bandanna?
Hanging in ---so you've stopped shedding yay! That's a milestone. It's hard to see new growth at first but you'll start to notice any bald spots disappear very soon! The new hair is like baby hair on me was whispy and hard to see then boom you have coverage!
May 18, 2017 06:44PM Cali58 wrote:
Hi everyone! I am new here. I have read your posts and they are very helpful. You are all so sweet. It's sad we all have to go through this mess. I am on 4 cycles of TC. My first infusion was on 4/18/17 and my second one on 6/9/17. I am using Penguin caps. Penguin caps referred me to one of their cap assistants and he has been helping me. He charges $350 per infusion. I thought I was doing everything right, washing my hair twice a week, until day 20 when I washed my hair and shed "big time". Then I washed my hair three days after my second chemo and had a "huge" shed again. I stopped washing my hair since a week ago and I will try to wash once every cycle, 3 days after chemo. I may have made a mistake, but I cut 3 inches of my hair a week ago. I have lost about 50% of my hair so far, mostly during the last two times I washed it. I am afraid I will only have a few strands left when it finally stops shedding. Heavy shedding for me stops two days after I wash my hair. I was wondering how often do you girls wash your hair?
Good luck to all of you, pray for your total health and hope your hair grows back VERY QUIKLY!!!
May 18, 2017 07:28PM MJPow wrote:
emhaich- I too had severe nausea and vomiting I ended up in the ER 3 times through dose dense AC Just looking at the caps made me nauseous.
We tried all kinds of nausea meds and finally on the 4th capping I took one Ativan an hour before which helps with anxiety but also on nausea also a pain med that the doctor prescribed then I took a olazapine during pre meds an also something called amend that's not the right spelling but if you ask your doctor he will know lol. I never made it 4 hours after the first was 3 hours 15 min before I tore off the cap and threw up. The next couple were closer to 2.5. I swear that amend and olazapine were life savers. Even on my taxol I am doing the same as now I have anticipatory nausea which means my body anticipates and I get sickness before chemo.
You can do it make sure you ask for those meds!!
May 18, 2017 07:33PM MJPow wrote:
cali- I washed my hair once a week. My infusions are on Wednesday and I washed on Saturdays I had 2 weeks between infusions so I just washed every Saturday. I was worried all my hair would be gone after day 21 my big shed. It still came out in handfuls for a couple weeks. Just now starting taxol it seems much less thank god!!
Hang in there! I know it's so frustrating and hard. I also braided my hair daily because it got so dry and tangled. It is finally feeling softer on taxol
May 18, 2017 07:33PM Hopfull2 wrote:
hi cali58, I was on the same chemo regiment as you. My last one was 2/23/17. I would wash my my hair 2days before each infusion and on the 3rd day after each infusion per the penguin rules. You mentioned your chemo was 4/18 and the next one is 6/9. Why is it so far apart. I was on TC x 6 every 3weeks. I had my big shed afternoon MTV 2nd treatment and shedding slowed at about 6weeks PFC. Good luck to u and hope you recover through each treatment smoothly.
May 18, 2017 11:25PM Cali58 wrote:
MJpow - Glad you are doing better on Taxol. I saw your pictures. You look great. I love your helpers' t-shirts.
Hopful2 - I wish I had known I didn't need to wash my hair so often. Washing my hair like you did would have been much better for me. I made a mistake, my last chemo was on May 9, the third one will be on May 30 and the last one on June 20. I live in the Central Valley/California. It will be extremely hot very soon. I will have to stay indoors to keep my head cool.
Thank you both for your your kind words
May 19, 2017 04:50AM EmHaich52 wrote:
MJPow-- thanks so much for your reply. It is comforting just to know I am not crazy! I will talk with my doctor about starting the anti-nausea meds well before the capping begins. Others have suggested i let the caps be a degree warmer and that I try foam ear plugs. I will let you know if any of this helps.
May 19, 2017 12:47PM - edited May 19, 2017 06:17PM by Pamela23
Hopfull--I had thick hair to begin with so I can't imagine how thin yours must be. My ponytail is half the thickness it was plus the underneath bald patches. I saw a couple pics of me from last year and wanted to cry. Even after the 3rd chemo I had a TON more hair. It sucks but it's my new normal and until I see what it used to be like, I forget because I'm too busy trying to make my stringy, dried out, stiff hair to look decent. I have my daughter's 8th grade graduation on the same day! My lashes are almost the length they were. I have a couple original lashes and the rest haven't caught up to them but they are getting there which makes a HUGE difference in how I feel about my looks.
Go Kale--it's amazing to see the progression of hair thinning but you still look great. The one thing I notice with my hair is how see through it is on the back. Like I can see in my shadow spaces between my hair above my shoulders, because it's not as thick. Does that make sense?
MJ--LOVE the T-shirts!!
Fast Girl--I finally colored with Clairol Nutrisse semi permanent last week. but it merely turned my light grays to dark gray. I'll try a deeper color of the same brand in a couple weeks. Still relying on the L'Oreal spray.
Cali--I had TC. Like Hopfull, I washed 2 days prior to infusion then 3 days after. So Monday and Saturday on infusion weeks. I had the worst sheds when you did so hang in there!! I ended up with a half gallon bag of hair in the end but besides some bald spots on the sides underneath the top I kept, it was from all over and only I could tell by the size of my ponytail. Then I washed every 4 days. It's scary but you have SOMETHING. hang in there!
May 19, 2017 08:40PM Vivianlu8 wrote:
Hi girls , one question have you try the fake eyelashes ? I am thinking to buy them when i start losing mine. About viviscal when do you start to use it?
May 19, 2017 09:35PM Hopfull2 wrote:
hi vivian, I never wore fake lashes. Mine are starting to grow back. Not enough yet to put mascara. But I've always made sure to wear black liner on my top lid so my eye dies not look so bald. And as far as viviscal I started about 10weeks PFC. I should have started as soon as I was done with chemo but didn't think about buying it. I would definitely wait until your done with chemo.
May 19, 2017 10:59PM Cali58 wrote:
Pamela23 - Your statement is encouraging. I hope that, like it happend to you, my big sheds are over. I am SO afraid of washing my hair again, but I must wash it soon. I have dandruff now. I saw your pictures and I can't wait to be in the stage where you are at. Your hair is looking great, as well as your eyebrows and eyelashes.
Does anyone have any suggestion on how to get rid of dandruff without having to wash my hair more than twice per cycle?
May 20, 2017 06:47AM MichCali wrote:
Go Kale-- thanks for sharing your pictures. I didn't take any but your hair looks similar to mine. I'm 8 weeks PFC. I'm starting to see growth on the sides. I wish its wasn't so frizzy, but happy to have hair.
Pamela23--- thanks for sharing your pictures. It's very hopeful and encouraging to see. I saw a picture of myself yesterday and know what you mean about see thru hair on the back. I wish I could add a piece or extensions to it.
MJ--- the t-- shirts are great!!!
Cali58-- I was on TC also, every 3 weeks. I would wash my hair 3 days before chemo, and 3 days after. Then once a week.
I hope everyone has a nice weekend!!