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Topic: Dry Brushing Lets talk about it here

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Posted on: Jun 6, 2014 09:32AM

Dejaboo wrote:

A few of us are doing dry brushing to help with our LE.

I myself have found that it helps my truncal LE pain alot.  I am following this you tube video now when I dry brush.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=panD5S72Tb0  I find it is quick & easy to do.  MLD has not helped me.

For me I like to follow my dry brushing with a self made mix of Coconut oil, Lemongrass oil & Lavender oil.  The days I didnt use the oil I could tell a small difference.

The day I skipped dry brushing I could really tell!  ( I have been doing it for about 3 weeks)

I have tried dry brushing 2 times a day- but only a few times...I need to try that for a week & see if doing it 2 times a day helps even more.

http://greensmoothiegirl.com/articles/healthy-habits/skin-brushing/  Another video that was shared..I still have not watched this full video (its long)  I need to do that. 

In both videos you can see what a dry brush looks like.

( I got mine at Target in the US for $5)


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Jun 7, 2014 08:59AM aunt_paula wrote:

I started "officially" doing this this morning, but with a pair of exfoliating gloves instead of a brush (I've done it off and on, but not really with any specific method). It may totally be a psychological effect, but my arms and shoulder feel better already. I'm going to do it twice a day and see how that goes, and actually get a brush at some point. :)

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Jun 7, 2014 10:15AM OneBadBoob wrote:

I have actually been doing this for several weeks after restorative yoga, and it seems to be helping me feel better mentally and physically.

The biggest effect seems to be on my neck LE.

When using essential oils, do you simply use them afterwards?  Or do you brush with the oils on your skin?

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Jun 7, 2014 11:43AM Dejaboo wrote:


I hope it works for you aunt paula (beyond today : )

OBB- So glad it is helping you too.   The oils are not part of dry brushing.  It is something I added in & do after dry brushing.  it seems to help me.  I take about 3 T coconut oil.  About 7 drops of Lavendar oil & 7 of the Lemongrass ( I am using DoTerra brand oils- but there are others too).  I have it in a small tupperware.  I warm it up each day in a small bowl of hot water while I do the dry brushing.  I gently massage in a little of the oil.  It doesnt not leave my skni oily & I can get drress right away.

Here is the brush I bought at Target: http://www.target.com/p/bathery-bristle-wood-brush/-/A-14779592#prodSlot=medium_1_9&term=bath+brush   if the link doesnt work it is called :BATHERY BRISTLE WOOD BRUSH

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Jun 7, 2014 04:28PM Musical wrote:

Interesting. What are the bristles made of? I have a shower brush but Im not sure that the bristles (synthetic) arent a little harsh. It sure feels good doing your back in the shower though.

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Jun 8, 2014 12:01PM glennie19 wrote:

I got a natural bristle brush at Wal-Mart.  I'm taking a break from it at the moment since I seemed to have developed a skin reaction to the kinesio tape. Sad  But I'll keep brushing my arm, just not the trunk area.  

Fibromyalgia and Truncal Lymphedema,,, some of the fun things I live with. Total hysterecomy 9/29/14 Dx 6/27/2013, Paget's, 1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 8/8/2013 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left Dx DCIS
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Jun 9, 2014 09:37AM Dejaboo wrote:


Musical I cant say for sure what the bristles are made of- though it feels like a natural bristle.  it is a rough brush, though one brushes softly- it still is very rough (to me) I did a stroke on my husbands back this weekend to show him how it felt- he said that doesnt feel good!  I said I know)  I can look at the store next time I go & see what the tag says on the brush.

glennie I am glad you found a brush. Yes, definately  wait til your skin is healed before using it.

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Jun 9, 2014 02:07PM - edited Jul 29, 2016 07:29PM by Musical

Dej, Id imagine the natural bristles would be much nicer. Heres mine... It looks a bit more lethal than it is. Its really nice and stimulating on your back. Id think twice on my arm though.  Too cumbersome for one thing and probably a little harsh.

Psa 119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. (KJV)
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Jun 9, 2014 02:48PM Dejaboo wrote:


Oh, that does not look like a 'nice' brush Musical.  You  might find one under the name Spa brush also.

Here is a close up of mine.  it is about 5" or 13cm long (without the lost handle):

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Jun 9, 2014 02:56PM Moochelle wrote:


Dejaboo

I looked at the website and it stated "firm" strokes.  the lymphatic drainage I do manually is very very light strokes.  How firm do you use?

I have had LE since shortly after BLM.  I have it in my right arm and hand, and left trunk.  The nodes were taken from the right side !

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Jun 9, 2014 05:03PM Musical wrote:

LOL. They shouldn't be too hard to find Dej, yea yours looks really nice. 

Moochelle, thats a very sensible question. Indeed we are not to use heavy strokes and the safest advice I would give is make sure you don't do heavier strokes than what youd do with your hand anyway. That may be a little difficult to ascertain but with careful thought Im sure you could find the equivalent.

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Jun 9, 2014 05:36PM Dejaboo wrote:


I tried some strokes to see how I would describe the pressure.  If one does it so the bristles are barely touching (for me that is not enough)  I brush with the bristles making full contact with my skin- but no pressure.  I hope that makes sense.

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Jun 9, 2014 07:25PM cider8 wrote:

I've done dry brushing on and off for years.  Mostly off!  This post inspired me.  I did it a few times and the biggest benefit for me so far is 'waking me up.'  I've been so sluggish and fatigued from treatment.  I get so tingly from dry brushing and I feel a bit more energy.  Such a plus!  I really struggle with a routine, though.  I have a long list of things I should be doing!

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Jun 10, 2014 04:34AM OneBadBoob wrote:

This is the brush I use

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Jun 10, 2014 05:11AM Dejaboo wrote:


cider8- thats a good benefit still- not what you were expecting...but energy is always nice : )  I hope it eventually will help your LE too

OBB - interesting brush

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Jun 10, 2014 06:11PM glennie19 wrote:

dejaboo, I think I have the same brush!

 

My "rash" is almost gone, and I'll try brushing again when it is completely gone. I am able to wear my swell spots at least and that has helped a lot. I was getting pretty puffy!

Fibromyalgia and Truncal Lymphedema,,, some of the fun things I live with. Total hysterecomy 9/29/14 Dx 6/27/2013, Paget's, 1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 8/8/2013 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left Dx DCIS
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Jun 17, 2014 08:28AM OneBadBoob wrote:

deja thanks for the coconut oil tip.  I really love it!  Never had such soft skin before.

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Jun 17, 2014 10:38PM coraleliz wrote:

Moochelle- Since you have LE on both sides. Brushing might be trickier. The video shows brushing over the sternum to the other side. This would push the lymph the wrong direction? FWIW,had lymph nodes removed from both sides. Truncal edema on the left side only.  I tried brushing with a natural bath brush & I stopped in the center of my chest(didn't cross over). I had to brush over a shirt because those bristles were just too itchy/scratchy. I may try it again though

Dx 2/28/2011, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 3/15/2011, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 1, 2/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 4/15/2011 Lymph node removal: Left, Right, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right
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Jun 18, 2014 04:03PM Binney4 wrote:

Coraleliz, I just wanted to jump in here on your mention of those bristles and remind everyone that skin integrity is critical to avoiding cellulitis in an area with lymphedema, so do choose a brush with care to avoid even micro-damage to your skin.

Be well!
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Jun 19, 2014 08:13AM Dejaboo wrote:


OBB Im glad you like the Coconut oil.  I love it too.  It can be used Everywhere!

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Jun 28, 2014 05:27PM Tessy wrote:

Dejaboo,

i just saw the first video today after looking for exercises to do on my arm for the lymphedema issues I am having.  I bought a brush today. It feels awesome! I saw other videos about full body dry brushing and I am wondering if that is not recommended because it may push fluids towards the lymphedema areas.I would like to do it to other areas other than my right side.

Dx 11/21/2012, ILC, 3cm, Stage IIIC, Grade 2, 11/18 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 1/7/2013 Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Chemotherapy 2/4/2013 Adriamycin (doxorubicin), Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy 6/16/2013 Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 9/1/2013 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery 1/8/2014 Reconstruction (left) Surgery 1/8/2014 Reconstruction (right) Hormonal Therapy 8/3/2014 Femara (letrozole)
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Jun 30, 2014 07:19AM Dejaboo wrote:


Tessy,  Im sorry I dont know about what would be ok for dry brushing other areas of your body.  I do hope that dry brushing helps your effected areas.   Check back & let us know how things are going.

I do my left - bad side/arm & my right good side after.  But no lower extremities

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Jul 1, 2014 03:49PM Tessy wrote:

Dejaboo,

I have done the dry brushing on my right side for 3 days now and I can tell a difference in the swelling, it has gone down, especially on the area under my arm and side. My arm also does not ache like it did.  I do it at night and then right before I get in the shower each morning. 

Dx 11/21/2012, ILC, 3cm, Stage IIIC, Grade 2, 11/18 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 1/7/2013 Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Chemotherapy 2/4/2013 Adriamycin (doxorubicin), Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy 6/16/2013 Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 9/1/2013 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery 1/8/2014 Reconstruction (left) Surgery 1/8/2014 Reconstruction (right) Hormonal Therapy 8/3/2014 Femara (letrozole)
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Jul 2, 2014 06:15AM Dejaboo wrote:


Wonderful to hear Tessy!     I hope it continues to be helpful.

I am still doing it daily...I never seem to remember to dry brush a 2nd time in a day.

It is still helping with my pain.

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Aug 6, 2014 11:23AM Dejaboo wrote:


Is anyone still dry brushing with me!  The last 3 weeks I thought dry brushing wasnt helping as much.

One day I also used my oil blend after the dry brush.  ( I had been to lazy to do that for a while)

Hard to believe but for me that oil blend after really makes a difference!

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Aug 6, 2014 12:35PM OneBadBoob wrote:

I am still dry brushing

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Aug 6, 2014 04:27PM glennie19 wrote:

I'm not keeping up with it but I need to.  I mentioned it to my LE therapist and she is not familiar with it.  So I'm going to send her some links.

Fibromyalgia and Truncal Lymphedema,,, some of the fun things I live with. Total hysterecomy 9/29/14 Dx 6/27/2013, Paget's, 1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 8/8/2013 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left Dx DCIS
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Aug 15, 2014 11:08AM Dejaboo wrote:

Thanks for checking in

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Aug 15, 2014 11:59AM aunt_paula wrote:

I was really consistent with it for a while, and I need to be again.

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Aug 15, 2014 01:30PM floaton wrote:

I'm still doing it, and super glad I read about it here. It seems to be the only thing that helps with my side, I can't get the right motion for doing it with my hands, apparently.  I don't usually use it on my arm, though.  

One day you're waiting for the sky to fall; the next you're dazzled by the beauty of it all - Bruce Cockburn Dx 9/2013, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 0/8 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/14/2013 Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Right Chemotherapy 10/14/2013 AC + T (Taxol) Hormonal Therapy 2/14/2014 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Aug 15, 2014 05:08PM Dejaboo wrote:


Im so glad it is helping others!

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