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Topic: Flu and/or other shots? Nodes Removed In Both Arms

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Posted on: Sep 21, 2017 01:45PM - edited Sep 21, 2017 11:15PM by Balthus

Balthus wrote:

Where do you get shots if you have had lymph nodes removed in both arms?

Need my flu shot which I missed last year and contemplating he pneumonia and shingles shots but on the fence about these.

I will be 65 in March and I did have chickenpox as a child.

Thanks.

1/12/16 BMX & SNB. Left Breast: Stage 1A & DCIS Stage 0. Right Breast: DCIS Stage O. 64, married & with DH 25 years, no kids, 1 wonderful dog, professional, working F/T.
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Sep 21, 2017 02:36PM sbelizabeth wrote:

Balthus, these shots can be given other places on the body. Just ask the nurse or whomever is giving the injection.

And yes, get all of them--flu, pneumonia, and shingles. A lot of miserable-ness can be prevented with vaccinations.

pinkribbonandwheels.wordpress.... Dx 10/20/2011, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 6/28 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 12/15/2011 Adriamycin (doxorubicin), Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 4/18/2012 Mastectomy: Left Radiation Therapy 5/21/2012 Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 7/19/2012 Femara (letrozole) Surgery 4/15/2013 Reconstruction (left): DIEP flap; Reconstruction (right): DIEP flap
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Sep 21, 2017 05:41PM Kicks wrote:

Definately get the shots! Getting shots does not guarantee that you can not get what that are to prevent. In a very few people, they do not develops immunity as their body just doesn't 'work' the same as almost everyone's does. Learned this the hard way during the 1991 Measles Epedimic in SW Fla. Both Sons were current on their MMR's but it turned out that they had never developed immunity and younger Son was exposed to Measles in a waiting room for a 'well kid' appt. and came down with them. Older Son also came down with them from his brother. Titres done after they were healthy again (and had had more MMRs) showed that of course having had measles they had immunity BUT still have no immunity to Mumps. Not telling you this to scare you but to show that while 'we' think that a vaccination will insure that 'we' won't get whatever it was for is true for the vast majority BUT there are a VERY few that's not true for. I am a firm believer in getting vaccinations as for almost all they work. I get all my shots and stay current with them. IF not gotten there is no way that they can work.

The thigh or buttocks can be used for IM shots (flu and shingles are both IM shots). In other words, they can be given in basically any somewhat large muscle.

Dx 8/7/2009, IBC, Stage IIIC, 19/19 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 8/25/2009 AC Surgery 10/21/2009 Lymph node removal: Right; Mastectomy: Right Chemotherapy 11/11/2009 Taxol (paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy 2/4/2010 Breast, Lymph nodes
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Sep 21, 2017 05:44PM Balthus wrote:

I definitely want to get the flu shot - just wasn't sure what my location options were and was curious about the other 2. Thanks!

1/12/16 BMX & SNB. Left Breast: Stage 1A & DCIS Stage 0. Right Breast: DCIS Stage O. 64, married & with DH 25 years, no kids, 1 wonderful dog, professional, working F/T.
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Sep 21, 2017 07:34PM Freya wrote:

We are just coming out of a really bad flu season (Australia). Please do get the vaccine. I came down with the flu even with the shot, but it probably saved my life. Quite a few young and healthy people died, along with children and the elderly.

Dx 2009, ILC/IDC, Right, 6cm+, Stage IV, metastasized to bone/liver, Grade 3, 14/22 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Sep 21, 2017 11:03PM NotVeryBrave wrote:

Be sure to check with your MO before getting vaccines. Mine definitely wants me to get the flu vaccine (I do as well) but definitely does not want me to get the shingles one. That one is a live vaccine and he said that even though my immune system is recovering from chemo - it still wouldn't be safe to get that one yet. I could potentially come down with the very thing it's meant to protect me from!


TCHP x 6 rounds - Complete Pathological Response! Still have to finish the year of Herceptin ... Dx 11/21/2016, DCIS/IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ (IHC) Targeted Therapy 12/19/2016 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 12/19/2016 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel) Targeted Therapy 12/19/2016 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Surgery 5/9/2017 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Hormonal Therapy 9/9/2017 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Sep 22, 2017 12:36AM ksusan wrote:

I get shots in my thigh. This means I can't get a flu shot at the grocery, but it's easy enough to call my PCP to request a non-arm injection.

Mutant uprising quashed. Dx 1/2015, IDC, Right, Stage IIA, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 1/2015, DCIS, Left, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy Whole-breast Chemotherapy Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Sep 22, 2017 12:41AM BellasMomToo wrote:

My MO said the exact same thing as NotVeryBrave's MO. She also said that I should wait at least 3 years before getting the shingles vaccine (because it's a live vaccine). I *think* she said 3 years. Anyway, I'll be sure to get her permission before I get the shingles vaccine. (I finished chemo in 02/2017. ) I always get a flu shot and plan to get one in the next couple of weeks.

Dx'd at age 56. Tumor found by my annual mammogram -- cancer can grow fast! Dx 10/6/2016, IDC, Left, 2cm, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ (IHC) Dx 10/6/2016, DCIS, Left, Stage 0, ER+/PR- Targeted Therapy 11/2/2016 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 11/2/2016 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel) Targeted Therapy 11/2/2016 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Surgery 3/27/2017 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left
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Sep 22, 2017 12:53AM Luckynumber47 wrote:

I haven't had any injections (and I don't have lymphedema) but my MO said to get blood draws and blood pressure on my DCIS side.

My avatar is a Blue Footed Boobie. Cracked me up. ATM variant, mom died at 33 from BC Dx 2/15/2016, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 3/16/2016, DCIS, Right, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR- Surgery 4/6/2016 Mastectomy: Left, Right Hormonal Therapy 5/16/2016 Femara (letrozole)
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Sep 22, 2017 01:17AM - edited Sep 22, 2017 01:18AM by ksusan

Yes. I get draws and have IVs on the DCIS side.

Mutant uprising quashed. Dx 1/2015, IDC, Right, Stage IIA, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 1/2015, DCIS, Left, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy Whole-breast Chemotherapy Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Sep 22, 2017 08:02AM Balthus wrote:

good info. So some of you who had bilateral bc have used the dcis only arm if necessary. I hear ok on flu, ask or wait on shingles sho but what about pneumonia shot? Thanks.

1/12/16 BMX & SNB. Left Breast: Stage 1A & DCIS Stage 0. Right Breast: DCIS Stage O. 64, married & with DH 25 years, no kids, 1 wonderful dog, professional, working F/T.
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Sep 22, 2017 12:25PM - edited Sep 22, 2017 12:27PM by bluepearl

I get my flu shot in the arm with the least nodes taken out. My doctor said that flu shots are not as effective when in legs. I don't know why. Anyway....no problems thus far. I HAD shingles around my eye about a year after my first bc.....not fun.....so yes, if you can it and at the proper time, get this shot. Even if you do get shingles, it will be less virulent. Ditto for flu and definitely pneumonias. BTW, new evidence suggests lymphedema is an inflammatory problem which poses some interesting possibilities. I am on a ketogenic diet which is anti=inflammatory and my lymphodema has gone down.

Dx 1/6/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/7 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 2/12/2011 Lymph node removal: Left, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left Dx 2/2013, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 3/10/2013 Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Right Hormonal Therapy 3/18/2013
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Sep 22, 2017 12:34PM gb2115 wrote:

Flu shots are IM injections...get it in your rear!!

Dx IDC in October 2016, stage 2A, 1.2 cm ER/PR+ Her2-, Grade 2, 1/3 nodes. Mammaprint low risk luminal A, Lumpectomy + radiation + tamoxifen.
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Sep 22, 2017 05:23PM BellasMomToo wrote:

Balthus: Pneumonia shot is OK. My PCP gave me one at my first checkup (in 5/17) after finishing chemo.

Dx'd at age 56. Tumor found by my annual mammogram -- cancer can grow fast! Dx 10/6/2016, IDC, Left, 2cm, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ (IHC) Dx 10/6/2016, DCIS, Left, Stage 0, ER+/PR- Targeted Therapy 11/2/2016 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 11/2/2016 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel) Targeted Therapy 11/2/2016 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Surgery 3/27/2017 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left
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Sep 22, 2017 06:50PM Kicks wrote:

I did get my flu shot while doing chemo at my Chemo Dr's request. I did not need the pneumonia shot as mine was current then. I was told not to get the Shingles shot until out of TX, as it is a live virus and if I got it and then went to Chemo or Rads it would be dangerous to those who had compromised immune systems from their TX - nothing about concern for me IF I got it during TtX but for those I would come in contact with. (My immune system was working great and still is.) So I got my Shingles shot as soon my extensive Rad burns were finally healed (almost 4 months).

Another thought - if 'you' are around babies/small kids, don't forget to stay curreet on your Pertussis/Whooping Cough shot for the wee ones safety.

Dx 8/7/2009, IBC, Stage IIIC, 19/19 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 8/25/2009 AC Surgery 10/21/2009 Lymph node removal: Right; Mastectomy: Right Chemotherapy 11/11/2009 Taxol (paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy 2/4/2010 Breast, Lymph nodes
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Sep 23, 2017 12:09AM sbelizabeth wrote:

Pneumonia vaccines are given intramuscular--IM--and don't contain live bacteria. You can get them in your thigh or hip. Hip probably stings less.

There are two types of pneumonia vaccines--PCV13 and PPSV23. For adults 65-years and older, just one shot of each vaccine is recommended. The shots should be given about a year apart.

pinkribbonandwheels.wordpress.... Dx 10/20/2011, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 6/28 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 12/15/2011 Adriamycin (doxorubicin), Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 4/18/2012 Mastectomy: Left Radiation Therapy 5/21/2012 Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 7/19/2012 Femara (letrozole) Surgery 4/15/2013 Reconstruction (left): DIEP flap; Reconstruction (right): DIEP flap
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Sep 23, 2017 01:18PM Balthus wrote:

thanks everyone

1/12/16 BMX & SNB. Left Breast: Stage 1A & DCIS Stage 0. Right Breast: DCIS Stage O. 64, married & with DH 25 years, no kids, 1 wonderful dog, professional, working F/T.

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