Topic: natural girls

Forum: Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment — Complementary medicine refers to treatments that are used WITH standard treatment. Holistic medicine is a term used to describe therapies that attempt to treat the patient as a whole person.

Posted on: Mar 3, 2009 03:59PM

Posted on: Mar 3, 2009 03:59PM

amberyba wrote:

I have tried this before, but wanted to start a thread for us natural girls to build our friendships, share our thoughts and the natural things we are doing. there is a thread called bottle of tamoxifen, that I enjoyed the friendships of, but now that I am off the tamoxi-train and using alternatives, it would be nice to have a support group of women who encourage each other with alternative, complementary and holistic treatment.

Here's to friendship and support.

Amber Almond Dx 2/2008, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Mar 4, 2009 01:38AM FloridaLady wrote:

Welcome amberylba....

Flalady

trip neg stageIV spread to IBC (2X) & 7 recur's, Treat Alt & Conv
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Mar 4, 2009 01:51AM lisasayers wrote:

Great idea Amber and hopefull we will not be attacked here!

One year cancer FREE 10/24/09! Bilateral with TE 10/24/08, 4 Cycles TC ended 2/6/09, Exchange Surgery 410 Gummie 3/20/09 Dx 9/25/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Mar 4, 2009 03:36AM StaceyR wrote:

Hi Amber and others,

I am on board with this.  Can we declare this the sarcasm-free thread? Tongue out

~Stacey

Dx 3/18/2008, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 4/21/2008 Lumpectomy: Left Chemotherapy 6/4/2008 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy 10/4/2008 Breast
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Mar 4, 2009 03:48AM lisasayers wrote:

Amen Stacey!

One year cancer FREE 10/24/09! Bilateral with TE 10/24/08, 4 Cycles TC ended 2/6/09, Exchange Surgery 410 Gummie 3/20/09 Dx 9/25/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Mar 4, 2009 04:04AM vivre wrote:

I already feel like you are all my friends. It would be great if we can keep in touch. Those of us on the GOP thread became very close until we were shut down by those who did not like us. It would be nice if we can have a forum to support each other here. It really is healing to be able to talk to others who have been through the same thing. We can only hope that we will be allowed to continue without fear of reprisals.

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Mar 4, 2009 07:44AM amberyba wrote:

You girls have made my day...I hope we aren't attacked either.....maybe we can just ignore neagativism/sarcasm....maybe the attackers will bet bored if we don't let them bother us...

Stacey it is thus declared as you stated: "sarcasm free thread".Wink

I second the healing process to be able to share with each other.

Thank all you wonderful ladies!!!!

Amber

Amber Almond Dx 2/2008, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Mar 4, 2009 11:30AM StaceyR wrote:

I don't know about anyone else's experience, but I have found it to be kind of crazy that medical doctors, including oncologists, never really ask me about or give advice regarding my diet.  I get weighed at every appointment, but since I'm well within a normal range, I get no grief about what I'm eating.  For all they know, I could be consuming nothing but cookies and cheese (mmm, cheese).  I think it's wild that there isn't more pressure to eat more vegetables; have doctors given up trying to encourage people to adopt healthy habits?

I was pleased to see on another thread that another woman who was recently diagnosed stage IV had been advised (by a "primary care physician who specializes in alternative methods") to try and consume a "raw diet".  I'm a big fan of this movement and am leaning into adopting such a lifestyle (green juice for breakfast!).  What are some things you all are trying regarding your diet?

Dx 3/18/2008, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 4/21/2008 Lumpectomy: Left Chemotherapy 6/4/2008 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy 10/4/2008 Breast
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Mar 4, 2009 11:49AM lisasayers wrote:

Doctors are not trained in nutrition.  The first oncologist I met with, from Cleveland Clinic, was clueless.  I told him I ate "clean"...no sugar, no white flour, etc.  You know what he told me, "You can eat whatever you want, it doesn't make a difference."  One of the reasons he isn't my oncologist!

One year cancer FREE 10/24/09! Bilateral with TE 10/24/08, 4 Cycles TC ended 2/6/09, Exchange Surgery 410 Gummie 3/20/09 Dx 9/25/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Mar 4, 2009 12:32PM vivre wrote:

Stacy, you are right on. I could not understand why cardiologists told my MIL to change her diet after she was having chest pains. Doctors tell my diabetic cousin to follow a strict diet, but anyone with cancer is told it makes no difference. No matter what medical problems we have, diet does make a huge difference. Food is medicine. No doctor will ever convince me otherwise that a major reason I got bc was my lousy diet.  I was not a big eater, I just did not eat nutritiously. My diet was heavy on carbs and sugars and dairy, the three main culprits. Since cutting out all the crap, I not only lost 35 pounds, without even trying, I feel better than I have in years. Actually, I feel better than I ever did when I was young, because my body is getting the nutrients it needs to function well. On top of feeling better physically, I have no fear of the return of breast cancer, because I believe I am making my immune system strong enough to fight off all those free radicals.

We are what we eat.

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Mar 4, 2009 12:43PM amberyba wrote:

My breast care nurse specialist sent me a post card last week....encouraged me to eat healthy, exercise 30 minutes daily....I think all my cancer doctors and nurse know that I am not going to take tamoxifen, and even my onc told me that if I decided not to take it, that i could be monitored every 3 months. so I will probably rotate and see my onc every 6 month and my breast surgeon every 6 months.....then my family doctor is suppose to be checking my liver.

Stacey, I have just added fish oil caps to my natural alternative....my family doctor recommended it....suppose to help with my cholesterol.

Then I just added Acai berry caps....read they were good antioxidant....anti cancer....I just upped my dose to one cap in the morning and one at night/.....last night I slept like the whole night....which is unusual for me since diagnosis....then I read more that acai berry helps with sleep....also helps with weight problems.

I am glad to hear about the raw diet too....and I do feel better if I get more fruits and veges. Also I drink distilled water....I would like to make it a half a gallon a day....but I am not always successful.

I also make sure I get 1-2 tablespoonfuls of ground flaxseed daily...in the morning with oatmeal and walnuts....and i like it in a chocolate shake in the evening.

Lisa i really like the max Lucado saying...a friend of mine attends his congregation.

Amber

Amber Almond Dx 2/2008, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

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