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Topic: Individualized Nutritional Protocols

Forum: Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment — Complementary medicine refers to treatments that are used WITH standard treatment. Holistic medicine is a term used to describe therapies that attempt to treat the patient as a whole person.

Posted on: May 17, 2018 11:04PM

niv wrote:

What are experiences of people here with Individualized Nutritional Protocols. In particular, we have seen Dr. Linda Isaacs treatment page. Information is very much appreciated.

Niv (concerned husband)

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May 18, 2018 06:44AM MelissaDallas wrote:

Personally I would not be giving much credence to anyone, doctor or not, who recommends "detoxification" or coffee enemas

LCIS, extensive sclerosing adenosis, TAH/BSO & partial omentectomy for mucinous borderline ovarian tumor.
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May 18, 2018 08:15AM niv wrote:

Thanks MelissaDallas. Any information about the ‘individualized’ aspect of the treatments? It does sound right in terms that every body is unique and what works for one patient may not be good for another.

Ni


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May 18, 2018 08:55AM MelissaDallas wrote:

What is absolutely proven to reduce recurrence risk is lots of exercise and maintaining a healthy body weight. Beyond that I believe it is pretty much a crap shoot. Example-low fat diets, paleo (high fat diets), low carb diets and plant based diets are all touted. There are plenty of vegetarian or otherwise healthy eating runners right here on this board who still got breast cancer. I think "individualized" diet is about as likely to have much effect as the "blood type" diet for weight loss or any number of other similar things.

LCIS, extensive sclerosing adenosis, TAH/BSO & partial omentectomy for mucinous borderline ovarian tumor.
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May 19, 2018 02:07AM Momine wrote:

Coffee enemas would be a major red flag to me. There is absolutely no science to support this as anything other than cleaning out your lower intestine, and it can be dangerous. Proponents like to tout that coffee enemas were listed as a remedy in Merck's manual for nurses decades ago, but have since been removed. The suggestion being that big pharma conspired to take it out.

I managed to find the actual entry in the old manual, and it is simply listed as something you can try if a regular enema fails to produce "results." It equally suggests adding whiskey to the enema in those cases. Either way, the recommendation has absolutely zilch to do with cancer.

Unfortunately, most of these practitioners just offer their clients a jumble of alternative treatments, with no real basis for any of them. Typically this includes recommendations to cut out dairy (jury is out on whether this has any effect with breast cancer), gluten (zero reason to do this, unless you have celiac disease) and sugar (not a bad idea in general, but cancer cells will find the glucose they need anyway), various "detox" treatments, a bunch of supplements (often expensive), and sometimes more esoteric things like dangling pendulums. As Melissa said, the one thing definitively known to help is exercise, preferably quite a bit of it (one study found 10 hours per week to be optimal) and keeping slim. It is, of course, more difficult to commit to 10 hours of exercise a week than it is to swallow a handful of supplements.

Dx 6/1/2011, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, 7/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 6/20/2011 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 9/13/2011 Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy 1/9/2012 Surgery 3/8/2012 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy 4/1/2012 Femara (letrozole)
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May 19, 2018 08:28AM MelissaDallas wrote:

Hell Momine, that woman's website said most clients will be taking about two hundred capsules a day! Then when it doesn't work the client can blame themselves that they failed to adhere to the impossible diet perfectly at all times.

LCIS, extensive sclerosing adenosis, TAH/BSO & partial omentectomy for mucinous borderline ovarian tumor.
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May 19, 2018 10:18AM - edited May 19, 2018 10:23AM by Momine

Melissa, yikes! maybe exercise really is easier. That woman even has an medical degree, she really ought to know better. I see from Google that she also appeared in Ty Bollinger's disinfo campaign, The "Truth" About Cancer. That alone shoots her credibility.

Dx 6/1/2011, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, 7/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 6/20/2011 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 9/13/2011 Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy 1/9/2012 Surgery 3/8/2012 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy 4/1/2012 Femara (letrozole)
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May 19, 2018 10:39AM MelissaDallas wrote:

I don't know how you even have room to ingest nutritious food when you are swallowing and your stomach is full ofall those supplements. Ridiculous!

LCIS, extensive sclerosing adenosis, TAH/BSO & partial omentectomy for mucinous borderline ovarian tumor.

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