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Forum: Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment — Complementary medicine refers to treatments that are used WITH standard treatment. Holistic medicine is a term used to describe therapies that attempt to treat the patient as a whole person.

Posted on: Jun 7, 2018 01:16AM

Momine wrote:

Just that.

Dx 6/1/2011, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, 7/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 6/19/2011 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 9/12/2011 Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy 1/8/2012 Surgery 3/7/2012 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy 3/31/2012 Femara (letrozole)
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Aug 14, 2019 10:12PM Kayak2 wrote:

I, too, am watching "Chris Beat Cancer". For anyone who is interested in this free online series (this week only), below is the link. Tonight is episode 2 (available until 9PM on Wednesday, when episode 3 becomes live). The issue that comes up again and again on various cancer docu-series that I have seen. is "genes load the gun, but lifestyle pulls the trigger' so we do have control over the choices we make (diet, for example), to lower our cancer risk. This is all evidence based! Processed meat is a group one carcinogen, followed by red meat, and grilling meat is another risk factor for cancer, because of the heterocyclic amines that are produced by this high heat way of cooking. Other foods are risk factors, while various foods are cancer protective, as I have learned. Happy to share to anyone who is interested.

https://squareone.chrisbeatcancer.com/eliminatecauses-2


Dx 5/2011, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Surgery 6/4/2011 Lumpectomy: Right Chemotherapy 7/19/2011 AC Chemotherapy 9/13/2011 Taxol (paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy 1/16/2012 Breast
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Aug 15, 2019 11:03AM Kayak2 wrote:

Below is a link to another 8 day free online cancer series of lectures that started today, 8/15. Each day's lectures are available online for 48 hours, then they disappear (unless you choose to purchase the series). Some very good/well-respected speakers are included..... Dr. Joel Fuhrman, Dr. Ben Johnson, etc. Some good dietary advice...

http://globalcancersymposium.com/index.php/day-1/?...

Dx 5/2011, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Surgery 6/4/2011 Lumpectomy: Right Chemotherapy 7/19/2011 AC Chemotherapy 9/13/2011 Taxol (paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy 1/16/2012 Breast
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Aug 16, 2019 02:23PM Anotherone wrote:

my issue with Chris is that he did not cure his cancer with just this stuff. He had surgery for an operable cancer. About 50% chance of life without recurrence. Versus surgery and chemo - about 70%. Half of people who did not have chemo would have survived as Chris did. Which is not highlighted on his website and so it is misleading in my opinion.

Not knocking down the message , just pointing messenger shortcomings which may result in the message being discredited.


Primary in 2006, metastasis 2019. Sorry can lot log in diagnosis and treatment info properly - it gets jumbled. Dx 10/10/2006, IDC, Left, Stage IIIC, metastasized to lungs, Grade 3, 4/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Dx 7/1/2019, IDC, Stage IV, metastasized to lungs Chemotherapy 9/16/2019 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Targeted Therapy Herceptin (trastuzumab) Radiation Therapy External: Chest wall Surgery Lymph node removal: Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement
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Aug 16, 2019 03:23PM DorothyB wrote:

Anotherone - I agree that the cancer tumor was removed w/ the surgery and, like all of us, he then would have a chance of recurrence. I would never forgo surgery to follow his plan. I probably wouldn't forgo radiation (even though my lymph node was clear) to follow the plan. I did opt to forgo chemo due to the limited amount it would help me - and, instead, am looking for ways to change my diet, exercise habit, emotional state of mind, etc in order to help me be among those who don't get a recurrence. I do think that a lot of what he has said so far is correct as far as health benefits and matches w/ books I have read, info from integrative doctors, etc. I haven't watched his first diet module yet - will do that in a few minutes. I'm also not following anything 100% - I had 2/3 of a can of Dr Pepper earlier this week and a handful of Ruffles chips w/ my lunch (which included apple, carrot sticks, gouda cheese & peanut butter), but if I know what is good, then I can make better choices most of the time. Instead of a Dr Pepper several times a week, I can limit intake, etc.

Diag. 4/19/2019 ER+ PR+ HER2 neg Lumpectomy 5/29/2019 IDC w/ DICS 2.0 cm Grade 3
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Aug 16, 2019 04:41PM - edited Aug 16, 2019 05:06PM by exercise_guru

I have that Chris Beats Cancer on DVD but haven't watched it. In my opinion he has gone a bit extreme on not working with conventional medicine.

I really really like this book

The Cancer Survivor's Guide: Foods That Help You Fight Back

It follows the power plate plan

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I combine this with mushrooms, Broccoli sprouts, and other power foods from Dr. Greggers Nutrition facts.org site.

The food has variety and is gets easier the longer you eat it.

My favorite menus for whole foods plant based are Power bowls and Power Wraps/sandwiches. They allow me to make all kinds of combinations . I can scale them to one serving or to my whole family. I do asian bowls, curry, tex mex, you name it.

This is the cookbook that I love the most that inspired me for power bowls. The title is not the best but the content is amazing

The Engine 2 Seven-Day Rescue Diet: Eat Plants, Lose Weight, Save Your Health Paperback – December 31, 2019

A few other websites I use for Plant Based Power bowls but google has so many good recipes and ideas you will get hooked pretty quickly.

30 Plant-Based Power Bowl Recipes to Fuel You Through Your Day

20 Plant-Based Bowls Under 500 Calories

27 Tantalizing Oil-Free Vegan Bowls from the Plant Based Dietician

Age 42 05/15/2015 PALB2 mutation, DBL Breast Cancer Type 1A Grade 3 ER+PR+(right 1.3cm,.5cm) HERr+(left1.6 cm), 06/26/2015 BMX with TE 8/27/15 Chemotherapy TCH 12/30/2015 TAH/BSO/Reconstruction 1/29/16 Arimidex 3/1/16 Femara 5/6/16 Tamoxifen
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Aug 16, 2019 04:58PM exercise_guru wrote:

My favorite person to watch on youtube is a different "Chris". She is a female with incurable cancer. Her name is Kris Carr and she is amazing. She produced that "sexy" cancer series and she inspires me and has brought an energy into my healing. I love love love her as a public speaker. If you are ever feeling down just watch her on youtube. You will feel your life change.

Here is a link to her Channel KrisCarr I heart her so much.

Here is Kris Carr interviewing Chris Wark ...lol like a mashup interview but I loved this one so much. It changed the way I looked at cancer and introduced me to Kris Carr

Cancer Prevention & Healing Tips | Kris Carr Interviews Chris Wark

Back to Chris Wark: To be a bit negative I feel like the Chris beat Cancer Chris has helped a lot of people but he has a very mono view of the subject. I really liked these two interviews he did though regarding breast Cancer survivors. Even though in the one interview of the women with inflammatory Breast cancer, he constantly questions them why they did Chemo.....The content is really really good. I just ignore some of his anti-medical bias. I remind myself that he is just trying to figure this out like everyone else. If you goolge Chris Wark and breast cancer you can watch him interview many BC survivors and I always learn something. Here are a few I liked.

Jane Mclelland interview. I own her book it is VERY VERY interesting.

Jane McLelland Interview | How to Starve Cancer with Off Label Drugs

Also this one isn't bad either

Breast Cancer Survivor Story: Beating Breast Cancer with Alternative Therapies (Jessica Richards)




My other Podcasts I love for inspiration and motivation and dang good information are the Rich roll Podcasts. Here he interviews My hero: Valter Longo Who is just an amazing researcher of the Fasting Mimicking diet and Cancer. He is studying the effects of fasting on Cancer and is very motivated to help Cancer patients combined with conventional therapy. Love this interview and love Rich Roll

Live to 100: Valter Longo, PhD | Rich Roll Podcast



Age 42 05/15/2015 PALB2 mutation, DBL Breast Cancer Type 1A Grade 3 ER+PR+(right 1.3cm,.5cm) HERr+(left1.6 cm), 06/26/2015 BMX with TE 8/27/15 Chemotherapy TCH 12/30/2015 TAH/BSO/Reconstruction 1/29/16 Arimidex 3/1/16 Femara 5/6/16 Tamoxifen
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Aug 16, 2019 05:47PM DorothyB wrote:

Thanks exercise guru :)

I just requested The Cancer Survivor's Guide from my local library. Won't be able to get it until next Friday as I am out of the country right now, but it will be waiting for me.

I'll look at Kris Carr when I have faster internet connection.

I agree Chris Beats Cancer is a bit too much anti-medicine, but still has some good info.

Diag. 4/19/2019 ER+ PR+ HER2 neg Lumpectomy 5/29/2019 IDC w/ DICS 2.0 cm Grade 3
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Aug 17, 2019 02:39AM Anotherone wrote:

thank you very much ladies.

Those resources will be studied once I finish "the truth about cancer " book.

Yes Kris Carr has been mentioned to me already by someone , I glanced at videos , nodded and went onto other things- will look it up again. Jane McLeland book thoroughly enjoyed, I am now on a protocol of repurposed drugs.

50 essential things you can do by Geeg Anderson is a bit simplistic but an easy read and has the same message.

Primary in 2006, metastasis 2019. Sorry can lot log in diagnosis and treatment info properly - it gets jumbled. Dx 10/10/2006, IDC, Left, Stage IIIC, metastasized to lungs, Grade 3, 4/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Dx 7/1/2019, IDC, Stage IV, metastasized to lungs Chemotherapy 9/16/2019 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Targeted Therapy Herceptin (trastuzumab) Radiation Therapy External: Chest wall Surgery Lymph node removal: Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement
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Aug 17, 2019 12:55PM DorothyB wrote:

There are some good videos here about the benefits of exercise, weight management, etc, etc.

www.mdanderson.org/research/de... scroll down to lecture series videos (and don't forget to click more to see more :) )

Diag. 4/19/2019 ER+ PR+ HER2 neg Lumpectomy 5/29/2019 IDC w/ DICS 2.0 cm Grade 3
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Aug 17, 2019 10:34PM exercise_guru wrote:

anotherone

You should start a stand alone thread on that book. I would love to discuss it and I have been coming two other members using it

Age 42 05/15/2015 PALB2 mutation, DBL Breast Cancer Type 1A Grade 3 ER+PR+(right 1.3cm,.5cm) HERr+(left1.6 cm), 06/26/2015 BMX with TE 8/27/15 Chemotherapy TCH 12/30/2015 TAH/BSO/Reconstruction 1/29/16 Arimidex 3/1/16 Femara 5/6/16 Tamoxifen
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Aug 18, 2019 04:20AM Anotherone wrote:

the truth about cancer you mean?

Primary in 2006, metastasis 2019. Sorry can lot log in diagnosis and treatment info properly - it gets jumbled. Dx 10/10/2006, IDC, Left, Stage IIIC, metastasized to lungs, Grade 3, 4/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Dx 7/1/2019, IDC, Stage IV, metastasized to lungs Chemotherapy 9/16/2019 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Targeted Therapy Herceptin (trastuzumab) Radiation Therapy External: Chest wall Surgery Lymph node removal: Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement
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Aug 21, 2019 11:02AM Kayak2 wrote:

Just came across this interesting website, with lots of evidence-based articles.

https://foodforbreastcancer.com/news.php

I've read lots of articles elsewhere about the anti-cancer benefits of certain foods (cruciferous vegetables, mushrooms, onions, green tea, flax seeds, etc., etc) but carrots is a new one for me.

https://foodforbreastcancer.com/news/carrot-consumption-linked-to-reduced-risk-of-breast-cancer


Dx 5/2011, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Surgery 6/4/2011 Lumpectomy: Right Chemotherapy 7/19/2011 AC Chemotherapy 9/13/2011 Taxol (paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy 1/16/2012 Breast
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Aug 21, 2019 11:29AM DorothyB wrote:

Thanks Kayak

Diag. 4/19/2019 ER+ PR+ HER2 neg Lumpectomy 5/29/2019 IDC w/ DICS 2.0 cm Grade 3
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Aug 27, 2019 09:52AM Staceybee wrote:

To get your 150 minutes of weekly cardio, I recommend trying spin classes. I was diagnosed at 52 and never regularly exercised. When I asked my oncologist what I can do to prevent mets other than take the anti-hormonals, she said she tells women to lose weight and exercise. Spin is great because the instructor makes me work much harder than I ever would on my own, the music is distracting and it is much better on the knees vs. running. And because you have to schedule in advance and reserve your bike, it forces you to show up. Yes there are some 20-somethings in the class that are killing it but I just do what I can do. The age range is from 20s to 70s and everyone races their own race. Added benefit, toned legs!

1/2 SN w 1mm "micromet"; lots of LCIS found in surgery; oncotype=13; age 52 at dx Dx 4/24/2018, ILC, Right, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 2, 1/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 5/22/2018 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 7/10/2018 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 8/3/2018 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Aug 27, 2019 08:56PM Kayak2 wrote:

Interesting article on ginger!

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ginger-10000x-stronger-chemo-taxol-cancer-research-model-1

Dx 5/2011, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Surgery 6/4/2011 Lumpectomy: Right Chemotherapy 7/19/2011 AC Chemotherapy 9/13/2011 Taxol (paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy 1/16/2012 Breast
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Aug 28, 2019 03:51PM moth wrote:

exercise_guru - thx for the book recommendations for the power bows & wraps. I need that as we head back into the school year and I'm brown bagging meals that have to be gulped in <10 minutes in between classes or patients. I'm always needing more ideas. It's the sauces/dressings that seem to be a key ingredient - do you find that? I have the carb+protein+veg combos I like but I find mixing up the sauces is key to adding variety

Dx at 50; Left, IDC, 1.7 cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, very weakly ER+, being treated as TNBC Surgery 12/12/2017 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Chemotherapy 2/14/2018 AC + T (Taxol) Radiation Therapy 8/13/2018 Whole-breast: Breast
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Sep 8, 2019 03:44PM Pamela23 wrote:

DorothyB--I read this book and LOVED it. It has research backing it and really explains WHY these foods work to beat breast cancer:

The Whole-Food Guide for Breast Cancer Survivors: A Nutritional Approach to Preventing Recurrence Got it from Amazon.



9/15/2016, IDC, Left, 5mm, Stage IA, Grade 3, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 9/15/2016, IDC, Left, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/6/2016 Lumpectomy: Left Chemotherapy 11/15/2016 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy 2/20/2017
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Sep 10, 2019 11:07AM pipers_dream wrote:

I have been so busy in the past year that I didn’t even know that the original thread had disappeared and I’m very sorry for it because I had intended to get in and copy all those recipes and links but I procrastinated. Let that be a lesson to me!

Here’s a couple of things I posted:

First of all, I love to bake and I always keep a jar of sourdough....I even kept some going for several months while traveling in a van. If you google or go on Pinterest, you can find directions for how to make sourdough, and supposedly it makes bread more digestible and now I always use organic flour because a doctor told me that problems people have been having with gluten are really more problems with glyphosate, which also causes breast cancer btw. It takes a couple of weeks to build up a starter culture but takes less than a minute a day of work and all you need is flour and filtered water. Just mix up a couple of tablespoons each of flour and water and cover loosely and leave out on the counter and wait 3-4 days until it begins to bubble slightly. Then begin to feed it each day 1 T each of flour and water for a couple of weeks. About every three days discard about half and keep feeding. In a couple to three weeks it should be quite lively and bubbly. This means it’s ready and should go in the fridge when not in use.

For pancakes, the night before, put 2-1/2 cups flour, 2 cups water and 1 cup starter into a big bowl and cover loosely with a towel or a plate on top. The next morning you add 2 eggs, 1/2 teaspoon salt, 2 tablespoons oil, and 1 tablespoon of sugar. Also, 1 teaspoon of baking soda. Let sit ten minutes before cooking...I like to cook in my cast iron skillet so I use that ten minutes to heat up the pan. When the pancakes are full of bubbles they’re ready to turn. You can create all kinds of variations and I use organic whole wheat flour these days.

My favorite bread recipe isn’t really a recipe at all, but the night before I bake, I put into a bowl....2 cups water, 2-1/2 cups flour, and 1 cup starter, just like for pancakes. At the same time feed your starter some flour and water before putting it back into the fridge. Then when I’m getting ready to bake, I start adding things to my bread. I have quite a collection of things like seeds, nuts, dried fruits and other healthy things. I add a couple of tablespoons of butter or coconut oil. Vanilla or almond extract. A bit of honey or stevia or maple syrup. A banana or two or some leftover oatmeal or quinoa along with some chia seeds or dried coconut. A leftover sweet potato or some grated carrots. I’ve used hemp seeds in the past too. Honestly it’s an entire meal when you get done. Don’t forget the spices because they are so good for healing cancer, especially cloves and cardamom. Then add a couple of eggs and 1 teaspoon of baking soda and enough flour to bring it to the consistency of banana bread—sorry I can’t be more specific than that but it really depends on what you added in there. If you’ve never made banana bread then find a YouTube video, or just know that banana bread batter is thick enough that it’s hard to stir with a spoon but not impossible like bread dough would be. Let sit about 30 minutes before baking and thenBake at 350-400 till it’s done. I have sometimes miscalculated this but it’s still good....again it depends on what you put in it.

My favorite brownie recipe has no flour at all...it’s just 2 cups of cooked sweet potatoes, 3 eggs, about 4 squares of unsweetened chocolate or 1/2 cup of cocoa powder, and 1/4 cup of honey or about ten drops of stevia. I’m going to make them today and add some fresh ground cinnamon but of course you can flavor them any way you want. Bake at 350 till the smell envelopes the kitchen and you must take them out.

Again, sorry to not be more specific but these recipes are very forgiving and you can use what you have on hand. I’m guessing we all have quite a collection of nuts and seeds by now. Lol..


Breast cancer should not be something to fear but rather a call to go deeper in this journey called life. Dx 11/14/2013, ILC, 5cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Sep 10, 2019 02:14PM exercise_guru wrote:

Moth

I really like the "well your World" sauces. I have also found some low sugar vegan sauces locally. for myself I can whip up something spicy with ease. My kiddos are a different story. My daughter can enjoy just about anything if she piles it in a tortilla, my son goes a long with it if I don't take away his ranch dressing ( has to be the real kind ) so its hit or miss around here. My husband is the difficult one as I lost my taste buds in Chemo and I can't seem to dial the spices in for his palate. I now just saute the veggies in the mildest seasonings I can and then encourage him to add on to meet his tastes.

I am hoping to sub in some soy curls to family recipes because they have a good texture and stick in your stomach longer. Higher in fat though so watch out if you are worried about that. Soy Curls are just dehydrated whole soybeans.

My favorite bowls are

Burrito - or Tex Mex

Indian- do that once a week

Thai-- so good especially as a noodle bowl

Stir Fry at least once a week.

Baked Potato Bowl.

I made a black bean mix with Butternut squash chopped up that was divine. I will see if I can find that recipe.

Also that same book ( 7 day rescue) has flats and sandwich ideas, Breakfast ideas, salads you name it. I learned almost anything could go in a sandwich, wrap or pita from that book.

The key is writing down combinations that work. Its easy to forget a great sandwich or noodle bowl if you don't write down the combination. They just don't feel like recipes.


Age 42 05/15/2015 PALB2 mutation, DBL Breast Cancer Type 1A Grade 3 ER+PR+(right 1.3cm,.5cm) HERr+(left1.6 cm), 06/26/2015 BMX with TE 8/27/15 Chemotherapy TCH 12/30/2015 TAH/BSO/Reconstruction 1/29/16 Arimidex 3/1/16 Femara 5/6/16 Tamoxifen
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Sep 10, 2019 02:48PM DorothyB wrote:

Pamela - thanks! I bought the e-book on Amazon

Diag. 4/19/2019 ER+ PR+ HER2 neg Lumpectomy 5/29/2019 IDC w/ DICS 2.0 cm Grade 3
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Sep 17, 2019 01:57AM Momine wrote:

Piper, those baking ideas sound really good. I often have a sourdough going as well. In general, anything that helps your gut bacteria be healthy is a good thing, and sourdough is part of that. I make pancakes with oats and just a tablespoon of wholewheat flour. I flavor them with cardamom, lemon zest and add chopped walnuts as well.

Dx 6/1/2011, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, 7/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 6/19/2011 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 9/12/2011 Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy 1/8/2012 Surgery 3/7/2012 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy 3/31/2012 Femara (letrozole)

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