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Posted on: May 10, 2013 09:13AM

bhd1 wrote:

does anyone have this.? did you need surgery to fix it? or do they go back to normal when you switch chemo?

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May 10, 2013 10:02AM Spoonchek wrote:

Are you really sure they're blocked? How do you know? The reason I ask is because when I started Taxotere my eyes became all crusty and full of gloppy stuff. As I tried to get it out my eyelashes were clawed out. My solution is to wash face and eyes every morning with soapy water and dap with warm washcloth.

None of this may apply to you but I thought I'd ask just in case it could be of some help

Best to you
Teri

Mets to bones and skin Dx 5/26/2008, IBC, Stage IIIc, Grade 3, 29/29 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ Dx 6/6/2009, IBC, Stage IV, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 10:46AM bhd1 wrote:

thx spoon. i will see eye doc on mon

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 01:13PM , edited May 10, 2013 01:14PM by Jennt28

Barb, I'm not stage IV but this is not a solely stage IV problem so I hope you don't mind me commenting.

Yes, chemo gave me blocked ducts! With regular moisturising drops and massage most of the blockages cleared, but one stayed blocked and formed a cyst. I went to an eye guy who did an in office excision of it a couple of weeks ago. Local anaesthetic only. Eye patch for the rest of that day only. Antibiotic drops daily for a week.

It has healed really well :-) My eye guy said that if the blockages don't go away in a month they should be excised like he did mine, otherwise they can cause permanent eye lubrication problems. Mine had been blocked for well over 6 months... My MO had showed no interest/concern about them when I mentioned them each visit. It was only when I went to the optometrist that she referred me on immediately.

Hope this helps. Jenn

Jennt28 jennt28.wordpress.com/ - 3 x FEC, 11x weekly Taxol, 12 months Herceptin (end March 2013), 12 days rads (quit), BMX with recon, Tamoxifen Dx 12/1/2011, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 1/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ Surgery 12/07/2011 Lumpectomy (Right); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection (Right) Hormonal Therapy 08/02/2012 Tamoxifen Surgery 09/28/2012 Mastectomy (Right); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection (Right); Prophylactic Mastectomy (Left); Reconstruction: TRAM flap (Both) Surgery 01/28/2014 Reconstruction: Nipple reconstruction (Both) Hormonal Therapy 03/10/2014 Femara
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May 10, 2013 01:33PM stagefree wrote:

I regularly massaged them, didn't need to do something else. Problem was resolved when Tax was over.

hugs, Ebru

Dx 4/9/2012, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 1, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 04/12/2012 Taxotere, Xeloda Hormonal Therapy 08/25/2012 Tamoxifen Hormonal Therapy 12/28/2012 Femara Chemotherapy 03/13/2013 Xeloda
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May 10, 2013 02:01PM sueopp wrote:

Barb, yup, both of my tear ducts are blocked, and the eye specialists (2) that checked them confirmed.  They both said that this can be a relatively rare side effect of taxol and it's cousins (ugh!).  I asked about surgery to have them opened, as I tear up some and have red eyes from time to time.  Their experience was that if the tearing and etc. was not too bad, they didn't want to mess with the ducts.  They both indicated that tiny shunts could be put in if the effects became really bad, but that these were effective in only about 50% of cases.  Their advice was to put moisturizing drops in several times a day.  I'm glad you are checking with the eye doctor - if you learn differently, would you let me know?  Bleary eyes can be a drag.  Nuts, it's always something (sigh).  Fondly,  SUE 

Dx 12/2010, IDC, Stage IV, 26/35 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 02:40PM bhd1 wrote:

thx for the advice, how do u massage your eyes?

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 03:07PM stagefree wrote:

I washed my hand with antiseptic soap & gently wiped the lash roots from indise out & outside in a couple of times (like wearing of your water-proof mascara Smile). I did get teary-eyed occasionally, didn't touch my eyes then & closed them as tears washed them clean anyway. The tearing stopped in my case in a couple of minutes after which I washed my face.  

Dx 4/9/2012, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 1, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 04/12/2012 Taxotere, Xeloda Hormonal Therapy 08/25/2012 Tamoxifen Hormonal Therapy 12/28/2012 Femara Chemotherapy 03/13/2013 Xeloda
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May 10, 2013 09:57PM bhd1 wrote:

thanks for all the responses. does anyone know why or how the tear ducts get blocked? what about ears feeling plugged? does anyone have that feeling of fullness in the ear, and hear fluid when you shake your head?

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 11:17PM bhd1 wrote:

sue why do they say to use moisturizing drops? does the tearing cause dry eyes?

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 11:33PM Cindyl wrote:

I had blocked ducts even though I haven't had chemo.  My Optomologist said that he has several patients who been given Tamoxifein and had one or both ducts blocked.  He tried flushing my ducts (twice) to no avail.  So I had surgery (dacryocystorhinostomy) where they bypassed my ducts and inserted tubes to create 2 new ducts.  The surgery was done as an outpatient and was not horrible, worse than my LX but not horrible.  The recovery was a bit of a pain as I was ordered not to jar myself at all, no bending, no running, blowing your nose, and make sure you don't fall.

My vision is much better, but (and this is probably tmi) my snot has changed and my nose runs when I get emotional.

I'd do the surgery again if I had it to do over again.  Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Stay calm, have courage and watch for signs. Dx 2/11/2012, IDC, 3cm, Grade 1, 0/7 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 03/01/2012 Lumpectomy (Right); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection, Axillary Lymph Node Dissection (Right) Radiation Therapy 04/16/2012 External Hormonal Therapy 05/23/2012 Tamoxifen
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May 10, 2013 11:43PM bhd1 wrote:

what is lx?

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 11:44PM Cindyl wrote:

lumpectomy = lx

Stay calm, have courage and watch for signs. Dx 2/11/2012, IDC, 3cm, Grade 1, 0/7 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 03/01/2012 Lumpectomy (Right); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection, Axillary Lymph Node Dissection (Right) Radiation Therapy 04/16/2012 External Hormonal Therapy 05/23/2012 Tamoxifen
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May 10, 2013 11:45PM bhd1 wrote:

thx

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 12, 2013 03:55PM sueopp wrote:

Barb, I was told that I have significant "dry eye" in both eyes - don't know if this was caused by the tear duct problem, but I assume that it is related.  Moisturizing drops have helped with the redness and itchyness in my eyes, and I don't tear up so quickly now.  And by the way, don't mean to sound like a copy-cat, but yes I do have stuffiness and mild ringing in my ears.  Oncologist said it was damage due to (you guessed it) the chemo.  Sounds like we have some stuff in common (!).  Like I said, it's always something.  Fondly,  SUE

Dx 12/2010, IDC, Stage IV, 26/35 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 12, 2013 04:31PM stagefree wrote:

The ringing in my ears stopped with the Tax ending.

Dx 4/9/2012, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 1, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 04/12/2012 Taxotere, Xeloda Hormonal Therapy 08/25/2012 Tamoxifen Hormonal Therapy 12/28/2012 Femara Chemotherapy 03/13/2013 Xeloda
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May 12, 2013 10:42PM justjudie wrote:

Hope the eye doc can resolve this quickly for you, Barb. and yes, Sue, it IS always something with this cancer. As Fitz sys it's the gift that just keeps on giving.

Judie Dx 3/31/2010, IDC, Stage IV, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 31, 2013 12:43AM bhd1 wrote:

eye doc said i do not have blocked tar ducts. he did advise eve drops bui seriously inotice that makes it worse. i am having glaucoma surgey and cataract surgery in 3 wks with oncs blessing. i figure i m never going to get better sonow is the time to do itwhile i am at my healthiest

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 31, 2013 01:02AM HLB wrote:

Mine were blocked from A/C. It was awful because I was "crying" CONSTANTLY 24/7. Thankfully it cleared up when chemo was done. The nurse coordinator said if it didn't they would put stents in them.

Dx 10/2004, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 2/11 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 7/23/2012, IDC, Stage IV Surgery 10/30/2004 Lumpectomy (Left); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection (Left) Surgery 11/30/2004 Mastectomy (Both); Lymph Node Removal: Axillary Lymph Node Dissection (Left); Prophylactic Mastectomy (Right); Reconstruction: Tissue expander placement (Both) Chemotherapy 01/02/2005 Adriamycin, Cytoxan, Taxol Surgery 09/15/2005 Reconstruction: Breast implants (permanent) (Both) Hormonal Therapy 07/23/2012 Femara
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May 31, 2013 08:20AM sueopp wrote:

Barb, so glad that you don't have the tear duct problem - one less aggravation.  Good luck with your surgery, and don't forget - onward and upward!   Fondly,   SUE

Dx 12/2010, IDC, Stage IV, 26/35 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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Aug 5, 2013 08:28AM ThereseD wrote:

Does Kadcyla cause tear duct problems?

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Aug 7, 2013 07:12PM lovelikecrazy wrote:

I have two eyes that I have determined probably have blocked tear ducts( at first I thought I was having some wicked allergy issues).  Tomorrow I have a Herceptin treatment and can't wait to ask them for help with this.  I hope they have a magic pill (solution) as it is driving me crazy.  Yell

Dx 10/2012, IDC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 11/25/2012 Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection (Right) Chemotherapy 11/29/2012 Adriamycin, Cytoxan Chemotherapy 01/25/2013 Taxol Radiation Therapy 06/18/2013 External