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Posted on: May 10, 2013 10:13AM

bhd1 wrote:

does anyone have this.? did you need surgery to fix it? or do they go back to normal when you switch chemo?

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 11:02AM Spoonchek wrote:

Are you really sure they're blocked? How do you know? The reason I ask is because when I started Taxotere my eyes became all crusty and full of gloppy stuff. As I tried to get it out my eyelashes were clawed out. My solution is to wash face and eyes every morning with soapy water and dap with warm washcloth.

None of this may apply to you but I thought I'd ask just in case it could be of some help

Best to you
Teri

Mets to bones and skin Dx 5/26/2008, IBC, Stage IIIC, Grade 3, 29/29 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ Dx 6/6/2009, IBC, Stage IV, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 11:46AM bhd1 wrote:

thx spoon. i will see eye doc on mon

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 02:13PM , edited May 10, 2013 02:14PM by Jennt28

Barb, I'm not stage IV but this is not a solely stage IV problem so I hope you don't mind me commenting.

Yes, chemo gave me blocked ducts! With regular moisturising drops and massage most of the blockages cleared, but one stayed blocked and formed a cyst. I went to an eye guy who did an in office excision of it a couple of weeks ago. Local anaesthetic only. Eye patch for the rest of that day only. Antibiotic drops daily for a week.

It has healed really well :-) My eye guy said that if the blockages don't go away in a month they should be excised like he did mine, otherwise they can cause permanent eye lubrication problems. Mine had been blocked for well over 6 months... My MO had showed no interest/concern about them when I mentioned them each visit. It was only when I went to the optometrist that she referred me on immediately.

Hope this helps. Jenn

Jennt28 jennt28.wordpress.com/ - 3 x FEC, 11x weekly Taxol, 12 months Herceptin (end March 2013), 12 days rads (quit), BMX with recon, Tamoxifen Dx 12/1/2011, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 1/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ Surgery 12/6/2011 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Right Hormonal Therapy 8/1/2012 Surgery 9/27/2012 Mastectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Right; Prophylactic mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Free TRAM flap; Reconstruction (right): Free TRAM flap Surgery 1/27/2014 Reconstruction (left): Nipple reconstruction; Reconstruction (right): Nipple reconstruction Hormonal Therapy 3/9/2014 Femara (letrozole)
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May 10, 2013 02:33PM stagefree wrote:

I regularly massaged them, didn't need to do something else. Problem was resolved when Tax was over.

hugs, Ebru

Dx 4/9/2012, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 1, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 4/11/2012 Taxotere (docetaxel), Xeloda (capecitabine) Hormonal Therapy 8/24/2012 Hormonal Therapy 12/27/2012 Femara (letrozole) Chemotherapy 3/12/2013 Xeloda (capecitabine)
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May 10, 2013 03:01PM sueopp wrote:

Barb, yup, both of my tear ducts are blocked, and the eye specialists (2) that checked them confirmed.  They both said that this can be a relatively rare side effect of taxol and it's cousins (ugh!).  I asked about surgery to have them opened, as I tear up some and have red eyes from time to time.  Their experience was that if the tearing and etc. was not too bad, they didn't want to mess with the ducts.  They both indicated that tiny shunts could be put in if the effects became really bad, but that these were effective in only about 50% of cases.  Their advice was to put moisturizing drops in several times a day.  I'm glad you are checking with the eye doctor - if you learn differently, would you let me know?  Bleary eyes can be a drag.  Nuts, it's always something (sigh).  Fondly,  SUE 

Dx 12/2010, IDC, Stage IV, 26/35 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 03:40PM bhd1 wrote:

thx for the advice, how do u massage your eyes?

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 10, 2013 04:07PM stagefree wrote:

I washed my hand with antiseptic soap & gently wiped the lash roots from indise out & outside in a couple of times (like wearing of your water-proof mascara Smile). I did get teary-eyed occasionally, didn't touch my eyes then & closed them as tears washed them clean anyway. The tearing stopped in my case in a couple of minutes after which I washed my face.  

Dx 4/9/2012, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 1, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 4/11/2012 Taxotere (docetaxel), Xeloda (capecitabine) Hormonal Therapy 8/24/2012 Hormonal Therapy 12/27/2012 Femara (letrozole) Chemotherapy 3/12/2013 Xeloda (capecitabine)
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May 10, 2013 10:57PM bhd1 wrote:

thanks for all the responses. does anyone know why or how the tear ducts get blocked? what about ears feeling plugged? does anyone have that feeling of fullness in the ear, and hear fluid when you shake your head?

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 11, 2013 12:17AM bhd1 wrote:

sue why do they say to use moisturizing drops? does the tearing cause dry eyes?

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 11, 2013 12:33AM Cindyl wrote:

I had blocked ducts even though I haven't had chemo.  My Optomologist said that he has several patients who been given Tamoxifein and had one or both ducts blocked.  He tried flushing my ducts (twice) to no avail.  So I had surgery (dacryocystorhinostomy) where they bypassed my ducts and inserted tubes to create 2 new ducts.  The surgery was done as an outpatient and was not horrible, worse than my LX but not horrible.  The recovery was a bit of a pain as I was ordered not to jar myself at all, no bending, no running, blowing your nose, and make sure you don't fall.

My vision is much better, but (and this is probably tmi) my snot has changed and my nose runs when I get emotional.

I'd do the surgery again if I had it to do over again.  Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Stay calm, have courage and watch for signs. Dx 2/11/2012, IDC, 3cm, Grade 1, 0/7 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 3/1/2012 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Underarm/Axillary, Right Radiation Therapy 4/16/2012 Hormonal Therapy 5/23/2012
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May 11, 2013 12:43AM bhd1 wrote:

what is lx?

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 11, 2013 12:44AM Cindyl wrote:

lumpectomy = lx

Stay calm, have courage and watch for signs. Dx 2/11/2012, IDC, 3cm, Grade 1, 0/7 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 3/1/2012 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Underarm/Axillary, Right Radiation Therapy 4/16/2012 Hormonal Therapy 5/23/2012
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May 11, 2013 12:45AM bhd1 wrote:

thx

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 12, 2013 04:55PM sueopp wrote:

Barb, I was told that I have significant "dry eye" in both eyes - don't know if this was caused by the tear duct problem, but I assume that it is related.  Moisturizing drops have helped with the redness and itchyness in my eyes, and I don't tear up so quickly now.  And by the way, don't mean to sound like a copy-cat, but yes I do have stuffiness and mild ringing in my ears.  Oncologist said it was damage due to (you guessed it) the chemo.  Sounds like we have some stuff in common (!).  Like I said, it's always something.  Fondly,  SUE

Dx 12/2010, IDC, Stage IV, 26/35 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 12, 2013 05:31PM stagefree wrote:

The ringing in my ears stopped with the Tax ending.

Dx 4/9/2012, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 1, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 4/11/2012 Taxotere (docetaxel), Xeloda (capecitabine) Hormonal Therapy 8/24/2012 Hormonal Therapy 12/27/2012 Femara (letrozole) Chemotherapy 3/12/2013 Xeloda (capecitabine)
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May 12, 2013 11:42PM justjudie wrote:

Hope the eye doc can resolve this quickly for you, Barb. and yes, Sue, it IS always something with this cancer. As Fitz sys it's the gift that just keeps on giving.

Judie Dx 3/31/2010, IDC, Stage IV, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 31, 2013 01:43AM bhd1 wrote:

eye doc said i do not have blocked tar ducts. he did advise eve drops bui seriously inotice that makes it worse. i am having glaucoma surgey and cataract surgery in 3 wks with oncs blessing. i figure i m never going to get better sonow is the time to do itwhile i am at my healthiest

barb Dx 9/22/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 31, 2013 02:02AM HLB wrote:

Mine were blocked from A/C. It was awful because I was "crying" CONSTANTLY 24/7. Thankfully it cleared up when chemo was done. The nurse coordinator said if it didn't they would put stents in them.

Dx 10/2004, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 2/11 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/30/2004 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Left Surgery 11/30/2004 Mastectomy: Left, Right; Lymph node removal: Underarm/Axillary, Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Chemotherapy 1/2/2005 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery 9/15/2005 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 7/23/2012, IDC, Stage IV Hormonal Therapy 7/23/2012 Femara (letrozole)
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May 31, 2013 09:20AM sueopp wrote:

Barb, so glad that you don't have the tear duct problem - one less aggravation.  Good luck with your surgery, and don't forget - onward and upward!   Fondly,   SUE

Dx 12/2010, IDC, Stage IV, 26/35 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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Aug 5, 2013 09:28AM ThereseD wrote:

Does Kadcyla cause tear duct problems?

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Aug 7, 2013 08:12PM lovelikecrazy wrote:

I have two eyes that I have determined probably have blocked tear ducts( at first I thought I was having some wicked allergy issues).  Tomorrow I have a Herceptin treatment and can't wait to ask them for help with this.  I hope they have a magic pill (solution) as it is driving me crazy.  Yell

Dx 10/2012, IDC, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 11/25/2012 Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Right Chemotherapy 11/29/2012 AC Chemotherapy 1/25/2013 Taxol (paclitaxel) Radiation Therapy 6/18/2013 Breast, Lymph nodes