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Topic: Boswellia is my new Miracle!

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Posted on: May 4, 2011 06:34PM

j1gilbe wrote:

After being rushed to the hospital last month for internal bleeding, I found out my frequent use of Alieve caused a duodeneal ulcer. The Doctors told me to immediately stop the use of Alieve and all NSAIDS. What was I to do, as inflammation from my extensive bone mets made me stiff, immobile, and virtually unable to function.

I did a search on Google for "natural anti-inflammatory". It kept coming up with "Boswellia Serrata". It is sold at GNC, Vitamin World and Amazon. Also it is one of the ingredients in Osteo-Biflex. OMG! This stuff has changed my life. I have never been a big believer in Alternative Medicine, but I am starting to change my stance. I only take 1/4 of the pain meds I took before. The also have studies that show Boswellia was better than Decadron in controlling swelling and edema in brain cancer

I just wanted to share my newfound relief. Wish I had tried it sooner..

Dx 1/1/1999, DCIS, Stage IV, Grade 2, 4/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 4, 2011 06:36PM Leah_S wrote:

j1gilbe, I'm glad to hear you found this. Hope it continues to be successful!

Leah

Dx 11/3/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 6/17 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 4, 2011 07:31PM PJB wrote:

Thanks for sharing that! Very interesting and great that it's working so well.

Paula 

May 2004, Stage 2 IDC. Recurrence in 2005. On Femara til mets diagnosis in Feb 2009. On Faslodex 8/11. Brain mets in April 2012. Progression in liver 6/12. On to Etoposide. Dx mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 4, 2011 07:39PM Luan wrote:

Thank u so much for sharing ! Will add it to my
list ;)

Don't knock at death's door. Ring the bell and run. He hates that. Dx 10/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 1, 2/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 4, 2011 08:46PM Fitztwins wrote:

TFS

Enjoy Every Sandwich. Dx 12/12/2004, IDC, Left, 3cm, Stage IV, metastasized to bone/lungs, Grade 2, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2+ (FISH) Surgery 1/18/2005 Lymph node removal: Left, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Free TRAM flap Chemotherapy 1/31/2005 AC + T (Taxol) Radiation Therapy 4/30/2005 Breast, Lymph nodes Targeted Therapy 5/31/2005 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Hormonal Therapy 12/31/2005 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy 6/1/2008 Aromasin (exemestane) Targeted Therapy 6/30/2008 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Hormonal Therapy 6/14/2013 Arimidex (anastrozole) Targeted Therapy 9/4/2015 Perjeta (pertuzumab)
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May 4, 2011 10:41PM chainsawz wrote:

This is also one used by people with brain mets and it helps keep many off steriods.  I didn't realize it could be used for other things....very good to know!!!! 

Lisa -mets to lungs & brain - clear lymph nodes.....the weakest step toward the top of the hill, toward sunrise, toward hope, is stronger than the fiercest storm. Dx 7/21/2008, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 4, 2011 11:58PM justjudie wrote:

This is a very good thing to know about. Thanks for telling us. I am writing this down so I don't forget. So glad you are getting good relief from it.


Judie

Judie Dx 3/31/2010, IDC, Stage IV, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 5, 2011 01:18AM Mazy1959 wrote:

Thx for sharing

Bone marrow mets in 90% of bone marrow. Dx 3/6/2003, ILC, 3cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 2/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 12/19/2006, ILC, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx 4/25/2012, ILC, Stage IV, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 8/4/2012, ILC, Stage IV, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 8/9/2012 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel)
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May 5, 2011 09:41AM Marybetz wrote:

Thanks for the advice on Aleve!!  I take one daily and will now try and cut back!

Mary Betz Dx 5/17/2010, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2+
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May 5, 2011 10:42AM Lowrider54 wrote:

Very cool...thank you for sharing!  I don't take Aleve but I am on ANSAIDS - it is helpful to know there is an alternative should I find I end up with issues - I just started on them 2 months ago.

Smile...it will make people wonder what you are up to...Initial dx 04/99 - CMF; 9/2009 bone mets Arimidex; 6/2010 Faslodex/Xgeva; 8/2011; abdominal wall invaded, ER/PR flipped to TN, Abraxane/Avastin//Xgeva 09/02/2011; 11/2011Xeloda/Avastin/Xgeva. Dx 9/16/2009, Stage IV, 5/25 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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May 5, 2011 12:57PM MJLToday wrote:

Hmm, I should look into that too, I've been taking a lot of NSAIDs.  Cool.

MJ '98 Stage 2 ER+/PR-/Her-, AC+Tam: Sep 08 bone/liver mets. Arimidex,Faslodex,Zometa thru 12/09, Aromasin+Everolimus thru 03/10, Abraxane thru 3/11,Xeloda 8/11,Armed Activated T cell trial 9/11, Taxotere/Gemzar now
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May 5, 2011 01:01PM Traci-----TripNeg wrote:

Can't wait to share this with my Sister. Thank you!!!!

Trip Neg BRCA + If I never look behind me, my troubles will be few. Supertramp. Dx 2/12/2007, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIIB, Grade 3, 0/14 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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May 5, 2011 01:09PM thenewme wrote:

Excellent news!!   It's awesome to see great results!  As an interesting aside, the common name for boswellia serrata is Indian frankincense.

"BS {boswellia serrata} significantly reduced cerebral edema measured by MRI in the study population. BS could potentially be steroid-sparing for patients receiving brain irradiation. Our findings will need to be further validated in larger studies. Cancer 2011. © 2011 American Cancer Society."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21287538?dopt=Citation

Dx 11/2008, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, 0/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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May 5, 2011 01:09PM - edited May 5, 2011 01:13PM by mthomp2020

Thanks for the info.  I've been taking Advil every day for the past several months, so far no problems, but it may catch up with me, so it's good to have an alternative.  The narcotic drugs just don't seem to work as well for me for some reason.  Leads me to believe the pain is from inflamation, which makes sense. 

Marsha Dx 5/21/2007, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 3, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 5, 2011 01:46PM Mazy1959 wrote:

I need to check it out more..but is this a phytoestrogen? Does anyone know? 

Bone marrow mets in 90% of bone marrow. Dx 3/6/2003, ILC, 3cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 2/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 12/19/2006, ILC, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx 4/25/2012, ILC, Stage IV, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 8/4/2012, ILC, Stage IV, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 8/9/2012 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel)
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May 5, 2011 02:03PM starbeauty wrote:

Doesn't look like it... www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/13/2/165.pdf
Dx 12/16/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 3/23 nodes, ER+, HER2-
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May 5, 2011 10:52PM Mazy1959 wrote:

ThxStar..I'm going to call my onc tomorrow if I remember and ask about this. I just need to know that its safe for me to take with my other drugs etc. He should know if its a phytoestrogen. The jury is still out on whether or not phytoestrogen is bad for estrogen pos ladies..so I dont take chances if something is a strong phytoestrgen. It would be so nice to be able to reduce my dose of Oxy. My onc recently increased it.HUgs, Mazy

Bone marrow mets in 90% of bone marrow. Dx 3/6/2003, ILC, 3cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 2/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 12/19/2006, ILC, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx 4/25/2012, ILC, Stage IV, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 8/4/2012, ILC, Stage IV, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 8/9/2012 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel)
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May 6, 2011 05:04PM meima-Bev wrote:

Thought I'd give Bosweilla a try.  What dosage is everyone taking?     Meima

Dx 8/31/2006, Stage IV, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 6, 2011 08:24PM konakat wrote:

I'm going to ask my onc about this and if there are any drug/chemo interactions I need to worry about.  NSAIDS are decimating my platelets.  If I could get relief from Boswellia I would be one happy person.

Elizabeth's Mantra: When in doubt, eat cake. When you haven't a clue, add ice cream. Elizabeth's Mets: Liver, bones, brain (yuck), and lungs (more yuck). Dx 5/2007, ILC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 13/19 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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May 7, 2011 12:29PM marieibrahim wrote:

dear j1 gible

i wanna thank u sweetheart to know that boswellia did really help in bone mets, i ve read it before on brainwatch but i didnt know how and how much to use it

the product i have in hand(its not easy to get boswellia where i live) is aD.PLANTES CANADA,PRODUCT,65%,PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW MUCH IT  SHOULD BE  USED

THANKS ,AGAIN

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May 8, 2011 02:54PM 3katz wrote:

Wow - thanks for this info. I learn so much here.

Amy D - orig dx 2005, stage III / recur-mets Stage IV dx 2008, multiple bone lesions / er/pr+, her2neu+++ / Dx 5-2010 brain met
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May 8, 2011 04:57PM - edited May 8, 2011 04:58PM by MiracleMileM

Boswellia has been helpful for joint pain from arimidex and arthritis. I take Avesta brand twice a day - each - 500 mg boswellia tree resin which works out to  425mg boswellic acids and 25mg AKBA whatever that is. I take other stuff for the pain as well - Omega 3 and fish oil, curcumin 3 grams divided with piperine, and zyflamed 2 x day.  I wish I had known about boswellia when undergoing TCH because I would have pushed for the boswellia to replace decadron which I hated.   Thank you Starbeauty for that link.  The link explains why I have had less breathing problems as well. 

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May 12, 2011 06:33AM chillipadi wrote:

The tumors in my right breast broke through the skin and have been ulcerating, fungating and bleeding for more than 2 years now. I have tried practically every alternative remedy, together with conventional treatment like hormonal therapy and chemo, but the buggers would, at best, retreat for a while and then surface again worse than ever.

Then I found this thread and decided to research Boswellia Serrata, also known as Indian frankincense or Shallaki.. Apparently, it's anti-tumoral. Fortunately for me, I bought it on sale at the hospital pharmacy on Tuesday - both in capsule form as well as in essential oil form (Boswellia Carterii). That very night, I started consuming the capsules (one each twice a day) and mixed two drops of the essential oil into the home-made aloe vera and seaweed paste which I normally use to dress my tumors with every night. The recipe for the paste is at healingpastures.com/2009/12/04...  (sorry, I don't know how to hyperlink this. Can anyone help?)

Anyway, the very next night (Wednesday) after I had my shower, I noticed that some of the tumors had shrunk or retreated visibly. I must add that I had my first Gemzar+Carboplatin chemo treatment on the same day, from 4-6 pm, but I don't believe the chemos could have produced results like that within just a few hours. I've certainly never had that experience with previous chemos.

This morning (Thursday) I noticed through the wound-dressing gauze that some lumps and bumps have shrunk even further. It's just amazing. Oh yes, there's also much less pain now than compared to a few days ago. 

My husband feels that the Boswellia must be responsible, as I used it both internally as well as externally. It stung for almost an hour when the paste was first applied on the tumors. Frankincense essential oil is potent stuff, so use carefully.

So what's producing these results? Well, all I know is that I'm heading back to the hospital pharmacy while the sale is still on to stock up on more Boswellia. The essential oil is Boswellia Carterii or Olibanum Oil Frankincense by an Australian company called La Clinica, while the powder capsules are Boswellia Serrata from The Himalaya Drug Company (www,himalayahealthcare.com) .

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May 12, 2011 12:28PM J9W wrote:

thank you.  I've been having bone pain, all over, for over a year - nothing wrong though per bone scans and xrays, thank goodness, but having throbbing bones has started to bring me down. I just went out and bought boswellia and took my first pill in car in the parking lot. I can't wait to see if this helps. Just the idea that something might help is making me happy. thank you, thank you, thank you for this thread.

DCIS, grade 3, 2009. Right mastectomy, tamoxifen for only 11 months.
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May 12, 2011 03:43PM dharmamama wrote:

After my craniotomy Boswellia was my BFF! I also take it now for the post herceptin aches and it seems to help. I am glad it is working for you too!

Dx 6/7/2009, IDC, 5cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 17/19 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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May 12, 2011 05:08PM Luan wrote:

Chillipadi, i hope u dont mind me asking..are ure tumours innoperable ?

Don't knock at death's door. Ring the bell and run. He hates that. Dx 10/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 1, 2/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 12, 2011 11:13PM chillipadi wrote:

Yes Luan, they are inoperable. The whole growth is massive. So the strategy is to try to reduce the size sufficiently for surgery to be possible, using treatments such as chemotherapy and hormonal therapy. Radiation is not recommended as, at best, even at full blast, it can only shrink the tumors by around 30%. The side effects will be bad and will also make surgery and recovery more difficult.

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May 13, 2011 03:02AM MiracleMileM wrote:

Dear Chillipadi,

It is so exciting and encouraging to hear about your positive boswellia response.  I will keep my fingers crossed.  Please keep us posted. 

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May 13, 2011 03:25AM maria38 wrote:

Thank you for sharing. I will definitely give it a shot.

Dx 3/2/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 13, 2011 12:17PM Luan wrote:

Am sorry to hear Chillipadi Frown Good luck with your treatments
Don't knock at death's door. Ring the bell and run. He hates that. Dx 10/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 1, 2/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 29, 2011 06:07PM Luan wrote:

Hi, is anyone taking the boswellia with the Tamox? Not sure if i,m getting dizziness because of interaction...

Don't knock at death's door. Ring the bell and run. He hates that. Dx 10/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 1, 2/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

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