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Forum: Living Without Reconstruction After a Mastectomy — Discuss prostheses, swimsuits, bras, and other options for women not having reconstruction or waiting for reconstruction.

Posted on: Aug 21, 2010 12:50PM

OLBinNJ wrote:

I have some concerns about privacy with the full body scanners.  I imagine that foobs will show up, and I'm not so sure the TSA will know what they are.  Will I be pulled aside and patted down?  If so, how private will it be?  If it's private, I would be willing to "flash" by foob, but how do I then explain to my traveling companions who have no idea about my breast cancer (and no need to know), why I was pulled aside?  Should I just opt out of the scanner and go for the pat down from the get go?  Has anyone had any experience with these new scanners?

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Dec 11, 2010 11:31AM Erica wrote:

I recently flew out of Boston and was anticipating having to opt out of the scanners and hoping they wouldn't make me remove my breast forms from my bra during the pat-down. Instead, the full body scanner was not operating and I just went through the old metal scanner. Wonder whether the ruckus from so many passengers has caused them to rethink the use of the new machines, especially during the busy holiday season.

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Dec 11, 2010 11:31AM - edited Aug 20, 2013 06:22AM by BarbaraA

FYI, I just returned from a 10 day, three flight trip and I had the wave scanner on two flights. I travel a lot for work and so far, in the past 12 flights, I have been 'selected' 8 times. I mean, come on. I am a skinny, 59 YO blondish woman. I guess they really don't profile, since I certainly don't fit a terrorist profile.

Sometimes you're the bug and sometimes you're the windshield. Dx 4/30/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 2, 1/4 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx 11/25/2014, IDC, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, ER+ Hormonal Therapy 11/25/2014 Femara (letrozole)
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Dec 12, 2010 09:43PM 2Hands4me wrote:

We returned home last Sunday night and had no problems with TSA security. They were friendly and competent and courteous. Both directions were the usual metal detectors, which did not beep for any of us. I wear a dress, so both times a female agent ran her hands down the outside and inside of my leg with gloved hands, on the outside of my dress and slip. Neither agent went any higher than about 8 inches from my groin. Two quick swips and I was clear to go. Much less than the old pat-down with the wand - but I didn't set off the metal detector either. Seems like some are set lower than others. A friend with us was directed to the scanner and cleared easily. We've found information that the radiation amount is the same as something like 400 X-Rays, and less than one dental X-Ray.

This link, if I can make it work, shows the scan than is seen. It looks sort of like a mannequin profile, and is seen by someone seeing thousands per day sitting in another room where they don't even connect YOU with that image.

http://gleaner.rutgers.edu/2010/11/29/advanced-imaging-technology-is-the-elevated-safety-worth-the-risks/

Yes, all airports are different and all TSA agents are different, just like doctors, dentiste, BS, store clerks, phone operators, etc. Unfortunately, one bad apple can spoil the picture for the whole profession......

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Philippians 4:13 His Hands hold me up! Dx 1/8/2009, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-
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Dec 12, 2010 11:46PM otter wrote:

2Hands4me,

Thanks for the report about your recent trip.  I'm glad to hear that you didn't set off the metal detector, weren't "selected" to go through the scanner, and weren't subjected to a pat-down any closer than 8 inches from your crotch.  That's good news, I guess...

It's pretty common for passengers to be told, as you heard, that the radiation risks from the scanner are low.  You said, "We've found information that the radiation amount is the same as something like 400 X-Rays, and less than one dental X-Ray."

I didn't realize anyone was comparing the radiation from a scanner to what would be experienced from a dental X-ray.  When I have a dental X-ray, the assistant always covers my body with a lead apron, from neck to knees.  So, the amount of radiation my body is getting is actually much less than what the machine is emitting.  Since the backscatter X-ray machine is designed to irradiate the entire body -- both front and back -- trying to cover up a radiation-sensitive area would be counterproductive.  I've read that the estimates of radiation exposure from the backscatter machines is incorrect, because it was calculated as exposure through the entire volume of the body, when the backscatter rays really focus on the skin.  I've read that they penetrate approximately 1/4 inch, which sometimes produces an image of the bones of the lower legs, knees, and face (since those bones are close to the skin surface).  The fear among the skeptics is that, with so much radiation focused on the skin, people who are especially susceptible to skin cancer will be at high risk with multiple trips through the backscatter machines. Ironically, he article you cited provides a good discussion of the concerns about the backscatter radiation, including the refusal of TSA to reveal the actual numbers from the tests they commissioned.

And, alas, the image in the article you cited was not the image produced by a backscatter X-ray machine like the one used on your friend.  The image in that article was from a millimeter wave scanner, which does not use radiation at all.  Here's the millimeter wave image from the TSA's own website:  http://www.tsa.gov/graphics/images/approach/mmw_large.jpg

Here is an example of a backscatter X-ray image from the TSA website:  http://www.tsa.gov/graphics/images/approach/backscatter_large.jpg

See the bones of the shins and knees in those pics?  Critics of the imaging program who are knowledgeable about the backscatter machines argue that the backscatter picture provided on the TSA site (the one I've shown above) has been "censored".  The censorship was necessary, they say, because the real images are too detailed and graphic, and would be considered pornographic; so the TSA doctors them for public use. 

The image seen by the man or woman in that darkened room is supposedly much more realistic than what I've shown above.  Here is a picture of a backscatter image that the TSA had been using until recently as an example of what the backscatter machines do.   The TSA doesn't like this image to be used anymore.  They say that's because the face is shown, and the machines in the airports are supposed to blur the face.  Everything else shown in this image would be as seen by the man or woman in the viewing room:  http://www.scottosphere.org/images/backscatter-xray-scan.jpg

The fact that some unknown man might be sitting in a dark room by himself, studying "thousands" of images like this in a day's work, doesn't comfort me even a little bit.  BTW, he isn't really "alone" -- he is in direct contact via radio headset, with the person who directed you into the scanner and who will decide whether you need your body to be examined in more detail with an enhanced pat-down.  YMMV, though.  None of this seems to bother some people.

otter

Dx 2008, IDC, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Dec 13, 2010 12:53AM Mandy1313 wrote:

I'm with you Otter. This is ridiculous and an affront to health and privacy.  As well, do they really think that terrorists haven't come up with a way around the machines...--the TSA should be forced to release their studies about the actual amount of radiation to which people will be exposed.  Every drug company has to release studies and for the TSA to keep them secret it unacceptable.With all of the xrays to which we are exposed in our daily lives, is it any wonder why cancer is on the rise.  I have already written to my senators and received form letters saying nothing. The whole thing seems surreal.

Dx 6/2008, IDC, 1cm, Grade 1, 1/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Aug 31, 2011 12:31PM - edited Aug 31, 2011 12:48PM by nlk

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Aug 31, 2011 12:48PM - edited Aug 31, 2011 12:49PM by nlk

I recently flew out of Boise ID where I had to go thru a full body scanner.  Apparently my implants showed up on the screen, and I was pulled off to the side for a full body pat down.  It was extremely humilating, the other passengers gawking at you as they walk by.  I felt like a criminal standing there in the airport with my arms and legs spread out while they did their search.  Don't get me wrong, I am all for airport security but I think they should have a more discreet way of handling the situation.  Maybe I will  drive instead of flying on my next trip.

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Aug 31, 2011 01:26PM hymil wrote:

According to the news here http://uk.news.yahoo.com/airport-staff-trial-body-scanner-122632855.html , Dublin airport are getting one on trial, for staff initially, voluntarily (??)

I found this sentence from the news report interesting: "The European Parliament last month agreed body scanners should be allowed at EU airports only if the health, dignity and privacy of passengers are protected." well i had been following this with interest and never saw anything about EU legislation.

Another report (source below) adds: "The European Parliament ruled scanners using ionising radiation should be prohibited in the EU.

A hospital consultant at Huddersfield Royal Infirmary in the UK was barred from boarding
his flight at Manchester Airport earlier in the summer after he refused to use the scanner, claiming he could be exposed to X-rays.

The DAA described it as a "wave" scanner and not an X-ray, but said potential health concerns will be discussed with the manufacturers.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/dublin-airport-staff-to-trial-body-scanner-518497.html#ixzz1Wcz9SqtE"

Interesting too that the airport's own website does have a breaking news section, linked from their home page, which is remarkably silent about the new development, directing you to this fluff instead: http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-the-airport/latest-news/11-07-19/New_Passenger_Security_Screening_Area_Opens_In_Terminal_1.aspx  How can they not have noticed??? A quick search with google shows that it's all over the Irish press...

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Nov 8, 2011 07:30PM - edited Nov 10, 2011 08:11PM by 1Badboob

Hello all,

We can always request a Pat down and opt out of the machine, that's everyone's right. Just thought I'd add that.

Wishing everyone peace, love and support through this!

Dx
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Nov 8, 2011 07:55PM crusader1 wrote:

Hi,

I just returned home from a weekend trip to Chicago..

I went through a full body scanner. No problem at all. I have at this point one tissue expander and one silcone implant.( gummy bear) So I think this happens to cover my two foobs..

I hope all others have the smae experience.

Hugs,

Francine

At the end of this tunnel will be sunshine! It is a sunny day! Dx 9/12/2008, ILC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Nov 8, 2011 10:50PM otter wrote:

Hi, Francine.

I guess that's good news, for those women who have had recon (re: your TE and implant) and are willing to go through the whole-body scanners.  Your TE and your implant are buried underneath the skin and muscle of your chest, right?  So, the image displayed on the screen should only have been the bare skin of your body beneath your clothing.  I'm kind of surprised the port on your TE wasn't noticed and flagged by the screeners as an "anomaly", but, hey... who knows what they're considering "suspicious" these days.

I think the term "foob" in the context of the O.P. and this thread is a breast prosthesis (breast form).  There is concern among women who have not had recon that their breast forms might be viewed and handled differently by TSA screeners (pun intended).

Thanks for the post, though.  Some readers might consider it reassuring.

otter

Dx 2008, IDC, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Nov 9, 2011 12:37AM 2Hands4me wrote:

I've been through full body scanners a couple of times with foobs. Clear sailing and waved on without a second glance. Also through the regular scanners - no problem with foobs.

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Philippians 4:13 His Hands hold me up! Dx 1/8/2009, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-
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Nov 9, 2011 05:15PM Anne888 wrote:

My last trip to Chicago was 6 months ago - Midway Airport.  I walked through the scanner with my one prosthesis and was immediately flagged for a patdown.  The TSA lady was polite but very thorough.  Not a very pleasant experience.  I'll be going back in another 9 days and will post after I return.

Dx 3/2001, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Nov 28, 2011 09:57AM - edited Nov 28, 2011 10:54PM by otter

Bump.  It's the holiday season again, and I'm wondering if things have changed in the past year.  Some of us were pretty riled up back then.  In fact, I haven't flown commercially since June 2010.  We've put many thousands of miles on our car as an alternate means of getting across the country.

It did seem that some of the most recent posts to this thread indicated a less-obtrusive approach by TSA screeners, almost as if they'd been educated about breast forms and implants.  I wonder if that's true... 

otter

[P.S.:  One reason for reawakening this thread is to answer some of the questions that have come up on a similar thread in the DCIS forum.]

Dx 2008, IDC, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Nov 28, 2011 09:33PM Anne888 wrote:

I'm back from my trip to Chicago, and nothing about the experience changed since my trip in early April. Leaving New Orleans I walked through the full body scanner because it is the millimeter type, which does not use radiation.  Like the previous time, I told the female TSA worker by the scanner that I am a BC survivor with a prosthesis in my bra and a total knee replacement.  I was not flagged by the scan and went on my merry way to catch my flight.  Leaving Chicago by way of Midway Airport was another matter.  The lines to the security checkpoint were again too long to be able to see where each line would end up.  So it was impossible to deliberately choose which type of scanning you would encounter.  Last trip I went through the full body scanner and was flagged for a full, up close and personal pat down.  This time I ended up with the metal detection scanner which I of course failed because of my total knee replacement.  So, just like the last trip, I was patted, poked and prodded. They were unaware of my prosthesis because this was a metal detector, so I didn't share that information.  This TSA lady was a little less serious than the one in April, but other than that the experience was exactly the same - full patdown.  I will say that I found it less upsetting this time, just because I had a "been there, done that" feeling about it.  I don't like it, don't think it makes us any safer, but all in all, not enough to keep me from flying.

Dx 3/2001, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Nov 28, 2011 10:46PM doingbetter wrote:

I don't think much has changed either. And we have also chosen to drive instead of fly when practical. Otherwise it's still pretty much dumb luck. I always opt out of the scanner, (no matter which type, I have serious concerns about their safety) and do not mention anything about prostheses. Based on what I've heard from others I know in similar situations, I am certain that more often than not the scanner will pick up the prostheses as an anomaly, possibly subjecting one to the patdown anyway. In those cases, the women have been subject to much more invasive patdowns and scrutiny of that area. By opting out of the scanner and not saying anything, aside from the generally uncomfortable nature of the patdown, there has been no additional invasion of privacy or scrutiny - I don't think they are feeling you hard enough in that area (at least they haven't been yet) to notice the difference between real breasts and prostheses. Just wear a good bra and top...My big concern is if we ever get to the point where you are no longer given the option to opt out. Aside from the privacy concerns, those machines are just way too new with absolutely no regulation for anyone to be saying they are safe.  Even the millimeter wave machine is basically the same technology as a microwave oven. Would you stick any part of your body into your microwave and turn it on?

Dx 6/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Nov 28, 2011 10:58PM Kyta wrote:

I have 2 tissue expanders. I've flown a few times in the past year and had no problem. I went through the body scanner last week and again no problem.

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Dec 11, 2011 10:21AM otter wrote:

I was researching check-in information for a relative who's flying today, and I found this web page on the TSA site.  It is supposed to be helpful to those of us who are wearing breast forms.  The original title of the page was, "What To Expect At The TSA Checkpoint if You Wear a Breast Prosthetic."  They've softened that a bit, to, "What To Expect At The TSA Checkpoint if You Are a Breast Cancer Survivor."  Must have run it by a focus group or something...

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/breast_prosthetic.shtm

Almost all the information on that page is just a repeat of the general information applicable to all screenings ("...you may request that the pat-down…take place in a private screening area"; "You may request that a traveling companion be present as a witness during the pat-down.…"; etc.). 

There are two statements under the heading "What Else Should I Know About the Screening Process" that are relevant to us:

--"You should neither be asked to nor agree to lift, remove, or raise any article of clothing to reveal your breast prosthesis, and you should not be asked to remove it."

--"If you decide to bring your prosthesis or mastectomy bra in your accessible property rather than wearing it, it will be allowed through the checkpoint after it is screened. The prosthesis or the mastectomy bra is not subject to the 3-1-1 rules normally applicable to liquids, gels, and aerosols because it is considered to be medically necessary.  You may also ask that your bag be screened in private."

This one made me shake my head:

--"You may tell the TSA security officer that you would greatly appreciate that your screening be handled as discreetly and quietly as possible."

Shouldn't that be true for all travelers???

otter

Dx 2008, IDC, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Dec 11, 2011 11:42AM - edited Dec 11, 2011 11:43AM by goldlining

I've requested the pat down just because I've had enough Xrays over the past couple of years on this journey. I've had quite a few business and personal trips through the US this year and in most cases there was a scanner and I asked for the pat down. They put me aside by a gate and call the female officer. When the female officer arrives and takes me to the pat down spot, I tell her that I have a prosthesis and a hearing aid, and they all have indicated that they get it. Before they get started, they make sure that I have my hand luggage secured or have companions taking care of it so that I don't lose anything. They have always been courteous and before beginning have asked if I hurt anywhere, and I've said "I just did a half marathon yesterday, what do you think?" or "I have to pee, so take it easy." They're human. Who knows, they may be family members or BC sisters themselves. I am sure that there is a private area for the pat downs but I figure the positive of doing it openly is that everyone can see that they are proper about it. I have never had an agent pay any unseemly attention to the foob or other private parts for that matter. In all the airports I have done this in, they seem to be conscious of making me comfortable about it. I agree that there may be minimal safety improvement by doing these scans and patdowns, but it's the way it is, and in the case of the flight home from the run, I prefer to think of it as getting a head start on the massage I booked for the day I get home.

Surgery 10/14/2010 Lumpectomy: Right Surgery 12/12/2010 Mastectomy: Right Surgery 12/14/2011 Prophylactic mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): DIEP flap; Reconstruction (right): DIEP flap Dx DCIS, 4cm, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes
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Dec 11, 2011 02:50PM crystalphm wrote:

Just a positive word here, I have flown once in America and several times in Europe since my mastectomy, the foobs never brought any attention (microbead foobs) but the compression sleeve and gauntlet got attention and I needed those chemical sensors run all over my sleeve...

I did get a pat down, but it was 45 seconds long and no big deal.

Next time I fly I will put my compression stuff on after I move through security.

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Apr 24, 2012 07:54PM cinnamonsmiles wrote:

Bump for the airport discusions

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Apr 24, 2012 08:38PM otter wrote:

Thanks for the bump, cinnamonsmiles. 

I need to point out that the pics I posted upstream showing the millimeter wave images are no longer relevant.  Apparently, those machines now use a computer to produce a generic, cartoonish Gumby-figure that looks the same for everybody, instead of the uniquely personal image they used to generate for review:  http://www.tsa.gov/approach/tech/ait/privacy.shtm

If there's no anomaly, there's not even an image -- just the word "OK" indicating to the screener that nothing was found.  If the scanner's software does find an anomaly, it's shown as a box or generic shape in a location on the Gumby figure that corresponds to its location in the scanner's image.  That signals the screener to know where to look during the ensuing patdown.

otter

Dx 2008, IDC, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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May 14, 2012 12:40AM SuzanneP wrote:

I've been traveling recently and have been unwilling to go through the imaging machines, thinking a) I don't know that they're safe and b) I don't trust the agents to ask questions discretely.  So I opt out, which means going through the pat down.

Today I asked the agent doing the patdown what would happen if someone with a mastectomy went through the machine.  Would we be patted down anyway?  She said that if the scan detects a certain number of anomelies,  the passenger is pulled out for futher screening.  She said "typically with mastectomies where they do the whole thing" (waving both hands at her chest, meaning bilateral mastectomies), that passes the threshold. So I will continue to opt out of the scanner. 

 I used to just breeze through security in about ten minutes.  I really miss those days, especially on early flights.

The thing that really bugs me about the screening process, though, is that it effectively prohibits a good portion of the population not to fly.  Say you were a senior citizen and used Depends.  Would you go through the TSA?    

 In Austin, the officers in front of the scanners have rolled their eyes, asked me why I didn't want to be scanned, and tried to persuade me to go through.  Because I absolutely want to talk about this in front of 50 strangers, of course.  They also seem to like to make the wait for a patdown as long as possible, seemingly as punishment for opting out of the scanner.  (None of the women actually doing the patdowns have been rude, though.)  I hope they are defunded and disbanded as an agency.

Dx 8/2010, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 6, 2012 10:34PM Celtic_Spirit wrote:

I just returned from a trip to Seattle. When I arrived at San Diego Intl. Airport (home), I fully expected to be herded into the full-body scanner or have a fight with TSA. To my surprise, I didn't even see the scanner. I went through the normal scanner...no gropes, no wands,  no testing my hands or shoes for explosives...and was sent on my merry way. I thought it was a lucky fluke. At Seattle, same thing...no full body scanners, no questions, have a nice day and enjoy your flight!?!?! What's up? I'm usually pretty news savvy, but I don't remember hearing that they've discontinued using the scanners/body groping. Has anyone else flown recently and had a similar experience?

Dx 2/8/2008, IDC, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 9/30 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 6, 2012 10:38PM Celtic_Spirit wrote:

bump

Dx 2/8/2008, IDC, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 9/30 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 9, 2012 09:14PM mawhinney wrote:

I have recently been through full body scanners on several occassions without any problems. I have 2 implants and nothing showed up. What surprised me though was 2 areas on my shoulders were highlighted on the screen. Turned out to be nothing.

Dx 5/18/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage IB, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 10, 2012 08:42AM Mandy1313 wrote:

I haven't made it through a scanner without being stopped.  I must have thicker scars than most because I am always found to have a "bodily anomily".  I am tired of being pulled out of the line and then getting a full search including swabbing my hands. I always start my trip feeling good and after being pulled out start to feel depressed.   I fly as little as possible as a result.

Dx 6/2008, IDC, 1cm, Grade 1, 1/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 10, 2012 08:45AM chrissilini wrote:

Just got back from a trip to Baltimore for tatts with Vinnie. Went through the full body scanners without any problems or pat downs. Even had patches covering the tatts on the way back and still no concerns.

Dx 11/11/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 12/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Surgery 3/14/2012 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right)
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Oct 10, 2012 12:49PM Celtic_Spirit wrote:

That was the weird thing...when I traveled a year ago, I got routed into the full-body scanners before I knew what was happening. And, as always, my foobs showed up on the scan, and I was pulled aside for groping. Pretty much everyone in line went through the scanners. On this trip, I didn't even see the scanners...just the metal detectors like we had pre-underwear bomber. A lot of people didn't even take their shoes off. I'm just wondering if security has been scaled back due to all the bad press, etc. San Diego Intl. Airport has always been really strict (that's where the "Don't touch my junk" incident happened). Was I just lucky at the San Diego and Seattle airports, or has there been a policy change?

Dx 2/8/2008, IDC, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 9/30 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 13, 2012 01:03PM otter wrote:

(Thanks to all for keeping this thread alive.)

Celtic_Spirit, I still have not flown commercially since June 2010, when a bunch of us from the May '08 Chemo group got together for a few days' retreat in Texas.  That was before the nationwide implementation of "enhanced screening" (full-body scans and detailed pat-downs) as a primary screening method.  So, I have no first-hand experience on what's happened lately.

I do, though, follow the news about TSA and especially the reports of nasty incidents involving security screenings.  I also am a "fan" of a Facebook page called "We Won't Fly," on which people post news reports and personal encounters.

I've not read anything about relaxation of screening procedures, except with regard to screenings of small children and elderly people (over 75, I think). I do keep expecting the TSA to become more customer-friendly, since, if they don't, Congress could threaten their funding (or is that wishful thinking?).  But, even if screening procedures were being relaxed, I doubt the TSA would announce it publicly.  They claim they need to keep things unpredictable, to keep the terrorists - and the passengers - guessing.  That's the excuse they give for the wide inconsistencies in protocols at different airports and even among checkpoints at a single airport.

I used to love to fly commercially.  I always arrived at the airport early, so I could absorb the sights and sounds of people traveling to distant places without having to rush to my own gate.  The route from check-in counter to gate took just a few minutes, even at my crazy-busy home airport (ATL).  Early arrival at the gate meant I could browse for books and newspapers, eat a few snacks, read a book, and watch people.

Now, of course, the whole experience is filled with ... well, it's as if passengers are presumed to be terrorists until the TSA can assure itself otherwise.  <sigh>

otter

Dx 2008, IDC, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-

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