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Meet others worried about developing breast cancer for the first time. PLEASE DO NOT POST PICTURES OF YOUR SYMPTOMS. Comparing notes, symptoms, or characteristics is not helpful here, as only medical professionals can accurately evaluate and assess your individual situation.

Posted on: Nov 13, 2019 08:56AM - edited Apr 26, 2020 08:06PM by Mandyhiero

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Nov 16, 2019 10:59AM Fiercer wrote:

I’m a TN cancer survivor and my mom has been going through the same issues as you have. Her nipple inverted and her breast became itchy. She went to the Dr and they didn’t seem to move forward. She had implants and they said that they really couldn’t see anything. However her breast is obviously not right. She is getting some results back next week from a biopsy. My fear is she is at stage iv, for some time now, unchecked.


We live in the Detroit Michigan area. Any advice on Dr’s and next steps

Dx 2/14/2013, IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- (DUAL) Chemotherapy 3/14/2013 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 6/7/2013 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel Radiation Therapy 7/15/2013 Breast, Lymph nodes
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Nov 17, 2019 03:24PM - edited Apr 26, 2020 08:07PM by Mandyhiero

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Nov 17, 2019 04:10PM MinusTwo wrote:

Mandy - Not seeing your specs, I'm guessing from your initial post on this thread that for at least two years you have been told you do NOT have breast cancer. Hopefully after this next mammo tomorrow you will be able to move on.

Itching is difficult to pin point. Did you ever go see a dermatologist? That's what they do - skin, hair & nails. If you are determined to chase this, the NP suggested connective tissue disease. Make an appointment with your PCP and see what tests or specialists you need to see next.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Nov 17, 2019 04:47PM - edited Apr 26, 2020 08:08PM by Mandyhiero

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Nov 17, 2019 09:19PM MinusTwo wrote:

Mandy - like I mentioned - you need to see a dermatologist. Particularly since you have mild psoriasis already.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Nov 17, 2019 10:41PM AliceBastable wrote:

Yes, please see a dermatologist. IBC is determined by a punch biopsy, which would be done by a dermatologist.

Endometrial cancer 2010, basal cell multiples, breast cancer 2018, kidney cancer 2018. Cancer's a bitch, but I'm a bigger one with more practice. Dx 5/2018, ILC/IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 7/11/2018 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Surgery 8/8/2018 Radiation Therapy 10/29/2018 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes
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Nov 17, 2019 11:02PM - edited Nov 17, 2019 11:03PM by chelleb1017

Fiercer,Dr. Jacqueline Jeruss at the university of Michigan in Ann Arbor. She is the sweetest most personable Doctor! Also the leading breast surgeon there!!

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Nov 19, 2019 12:00AM - edited Apr 26, 2020 08:08PM by Mandyhiero

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Nov 22, 2019 10:02PM - edited Apr 26, 2020 08:08PM by Mandyhiero

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Nov 22, 2019 10:11PM MinusTwo wrote:

Mandy - so I'll move my answer over here. NOTHING TO TO WITH BREAST CANCER !!! HOORAY

As for the itching - there really aren't any definitive answers. My back has been itching for 10 years. I've tried lots of different prescriptions and only heavy duty steroids work - which you don't want to take for very long. Keep up with the Benedryl or try Zyrtec. It can take at least a week for an oral medication to saturate your system.

Sit in a tub with baking soda. Smear on CeraVe or Cetafil. Put gloves on your hands so you can't scratch yourself raw.

You need to google itching in general and drop the 'breast'. There are lots of interesting things out there - and not related to breast cancer at all.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Nov 22, 2019 11:04PM - edited Apr 26, 2020 08:09PM by Mandyhiero

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Dec 26, 2019 06:18PM Ataraneh24 wrote:

Mandy,

You sound just like me. Lol. I have extreme anxiety. I have a dent in my right breast that has gotten bigger. It’s been there for years and my mammogram and ultrasound are both clear. Recently in the last four months my right breast has felt itchy and my nipple has been very sensitive. The skin looks normal though and they keep telling me I’m fine. I also have weird shooting pains in that breast. The more anxious I get the more I check it. I think it’s just anxiety and fibrocystic tissue. Maybe hormonal issues too- I’m 32. I have health anxiety like you and whenever I worry about something it gets worse. I also have fibromyalgia which I think started with trauma. Each time I go to the dr and get tested and it turns out to be fineslowly over several months I’ll stop worrying and it seems to get better. This has not gotten better yet for me though but I am still worried about it. I do have fibrocystic tissue and it’s thicker in this breast than the other one. It always has been. Do you have fibrocystic tissue?

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Dec 26, 2019 09:40PM MinusTwo wrote:

I had lots of pain in my breasts in my 30's. Had dense breasts and fibercystic breasts.

Once I took coffee totally out of my diet, the pain & soreness went away. A pretty easy thing to try - although you should give it a month to totally flush your system.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Feb 6, 2020 08:49AM clarebarez wrote:

Hi Mandy,

How are you now? I too have anxiety problems. I also had pain in the rib muscle, same side of the breast where I have aches up to my armpit and shoulder. I was told by my doctor that I have Costochondritis. I think you've developed costo too maybe because you're being protective of your right breast and your muscles tensed. I think that's what happened to me.I've been suffering left breast pain for 2 months now. Had lots of small cysts though.
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Apr 26, 2020 10:01AM - edited Apr 26, 2020 08:10PM by Mandyhiero

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Apr 26, 2020 02:01PM Valentine214 wrote:

I am not posting this to worry you. I had itching from time to time in the exact spot my tumor was found. It was not constant. It was not until after my diagnosis that I realized the itching was absolutely from the tumor. Since being treated, I have not had any more itching in the area. That being said, it definitely does not mean what you have is breast cancer. As a matter of fact, the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of another diagnosis. I just wanted you to know that yes, in some people, itching is a symptom.

Stacy Dx 9/19/2017, DCIS/IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ (IHC) Chemotherapy 10/16/2017 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery 3/21/2018 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Underarm/Axillary Radiation Therapy 4/22/2018 3DCRT: Breast Targeted Therapy Herceptin (trastuzumab) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Apr 26, 2020 02:20PM - edited Apr 26, 2020 08:10PM by Mandyhiero

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Apr 26, 2020 02:26PM MelissaDallas wrote:

Pretty unlikely anything much is going on less than six months after your clear ultrasound and mammogram.other than your health anxiety.

LCIS, extensive sclerosing adenosis, TAH/BSO & partial omentectomy for mucinous borderline ovarian tumor.
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Apr 26, 2020 02:52PM - edited Apr 26, 2020 08:11PM by Mandyhiero

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Apr 26, 2020 06:54PM MinusTwo wrote:

Mandy - we are not doctors, but I would stop with the self breast exams for now. You are making yourself crazy.

In the middle of this virus, you're unlikely to get in to see a nephrologist or a hepatologist for your "liver pain" and even less likely to get into a pulmonologist for your "lung pain" - even if you already have those specialists on your list of current docs.

With your history, you must be on anti-anxiety meds. What are you taking? Who proscribes those? I think maybe that doc should review increasing the dose. Do you not have a doc to talk to about your anxiety - psychologist or psychiatrist? That also seems to be a critical need since your family doesn't want to hear it.

It isn't 6 months since your last mammo & ULS. It's unlikely that with clear reports your PCP or OB/Gyn will order re-testing this soon. Even if you can convince them, make sure your insurance will pay for those tests this soon.

If if makes you feel better, see if your PCP can get you a Covid test. That will rule out something at least. Or if you come back positive, you'll definitely get lung scans. Hell of a way to get scans.

Hang in there girl.

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Apr 26, 2020 07:00PM - edited Apr 26, 2020 07:29PM by MinusTwo

And Mandy - I would try to stop reading about breast cancer. And certainly stop reading all the thread on this site too.

At the risk of sounding rude, you should probably stop giving opinions to other scared women on BCO. Telling someone that lots of breast cancers don't show up on mammos & ULS really doesn't help.

Edited to add I just read a great article about finding help for mental health issues. You may find some of this information useful. In a normal year, apparently 22% of Americans experience an anxiety disorder.

"With or without insurance, you can start by searching on line for a federally qualified health center (FQHC) near you. ...Health Resources (hrsa.gov) makes it easy to locate these community based centers, many of which provide telehealth counseling... If you have insurance, check your insurer's website to find a therapist... Many insurers are currently waiving co-pays on telehealth visits."

"Online therapy services can be a great resource. ...Amwell has hundreds of therapists... Also MD Live and Doctor on Demand. Talkspace is an app that can be cheaper than video therapy because your dialog is conducted by text and video messaging."

and last but not least..." try an app designed to relieve anxiety, such as Deep for breathing exercises; Headspace for meditation; and MoodKit for DIY cognitive behavioral therapy"

2/15/11 BMX-DCIS 2SNB clear-TEs; 9/15/11-410gummies; 3/20/13 recurrance-5.5cm,mets to lymphs, Stage IIIB IDC ER/PRneg,HER2+; TCH/Perjeta/Neulasta x6; ALND 9/24/13 1/18 nodes 4.5cm; AC chemo 10/30/13 x3; herceptin again; Rads Feb2014
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Apr 27, 2020 12:14AM AliceBastable wrote:

So, she seems to have trashed her posts and flounced away in a huff. It's so strange that some people hate being told they DON'T have cancer.

Endometrial cancer 2010, basal cell multiples, breast cancer 2018, kidney cancer 2018. Cancer's a bitch, but I'm a bigger one with more practice. Dx 5/2018, ILC/IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 7/11/2018 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Surgery 8/8/2018 Radiation Therapy 10/29/2018 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes
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Apr 27, 2020 12:31AM - edited Apr 27, 2020 12:40AM by Mandyhiero

Actually I didn't trash my posts because I hate being told I don't have cancer. I trashed them because the last thing I want to do is scare someone else as much as I'm scared at times. I didn't delete all of my posts. Just the ones that I thought would make people question their diagnosis or lack there of.

And to answer the question about therapy and medication, yes to both. I’ve tried therapy, and I’m on medication. Once Covid is all over I’ll go back to my doctor and ask her to increase my medication


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Apr 28, 2020 12:21AM - edited Apr 28, 2020 12:21AM by AliceBastable

Mandyhiero

Sorry that I made that assumption, but it's what is usually the case when an OP deletes all the posts in their topic without explanation. Hope you find answers to both the physical issues and your health anxiety.


Endometrial cancer 2010, basal cell multiples, breast cancer 2018, kidney cancer 2018. Cancer's a bitch, but I'm a bigger one with more practice. Dx 5/2018, ILC/IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 7/11/2018 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Surgery 8/8/2018 Radiation Therapy 10/29/2018 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes

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