May 13, 2022 02:09PM illinoislady wrote:
Posted on: Jun 22, 2020 01:40PM
May 13, 2022 02:09PM illinoislady wrote:
May 13, 2022 02:11PM illinoislady wrote:
May 13, 2022 02:20PM cardplayer wrote:
May 13, 2022 03:37PM miriandra wrote:
My cousin (bless his heart) is a Trumpeter - "The election was stolen", all that. He's also very "pro-life". When I offered him the idea that actually being pro-life would include social welfare programs to improve education and early child-care, he rejected it.
"I didn't get handouts. If they want to work their way up, they can join the military like I did."
"OK, so you want underprivileged people to be 'pro-life' by joining the military and learning to kill people for a career? Really?"
May 13, 2022 04:52PM - edited May 13, 2022 08:58PM by chisandy
Miriandra, the bill you suggested makes eminent sense, is highly logical, and tracks existing laws about organ donation and use of discarded tissue (in the wake of the uncompensated use of Henrietta Lacks' cell line). So long as Manchin is in the Senate, it'll never pass.
The only reason to grit our teeth and keep Manchin & Sinema from getting primaried is that we need 50 Senators + a VP with a "D" after their name in order to retain a majority. We want substance, but musn't discount the value of holding the procedural advantage--especially control of committee composition & assignments, as well as the biennial opportunity to set Senate rules. We need to not just retain a Democratic majority in the Senate, but also flip two seats in order to offset Manchinema's prioritizing campaign donors over their constituents. Why not let them get primaried by true Democrats when their terms are up for reelection? Because since AZ is a purple state and WV an extremely red one, if anyone to the left of them becomes those states' Dem. Senate nominees they will be roundly defeated (likely by double digits) by GQP nominees.
So as distasteful as it is, we need to hold our noses and put up with them--at least until we can get a >52-vote majority.
Now that we have the GQP Senators on record as opposing codifying Roe v. Wade, we need to at least protect the status quo (until we get more solid majorities) by voting for the Murkowski-Collins proposed bill. Yeah, it's far less than ideal but it would stop the erosion of reproductive freedom in its tracks. I know none of my fellow liberals (much less any progressives) want to hear this, but the perfect is the enemy of the good.
Take what we can get and build on it.
May 13, 2022 05:00PM illinoislady wrote:
Miriandra, while I think it a bit rude to cast aspersions on people I don't know, your cousin just sooo sounds like a non-extrapolating/non-thinking Republican too. As you say -- bless his heart. I am guessing that they ( he too I presume bless him ) forgot long ago to actually LISTEN to what they are telling others. Such a shame for otherwise intelligent people. Of course, I also presume they talk to each other all day the same way. It all must sound pretty 'smart' when talking to each other. What we hear make you go looking for the box -- the one with the rocks in it.
May 13, 2022 05:24PM illinoislady wrote:
Just because this is just when I found it:
May 13, 2022 05:55PM illinoislady wrote:
By the way, I thought I would just drop this in here. I saw on t.v. this morning, when the question was asked as to whether or not Putin was sick or had cancer, our Russian ambassador did not know. So questions are being asked now by some in the media, but no one really seems to have a definitive answer. It was said ( and I've noticed it myself ) that Putin's face looks a bit chubby at times -- like having had some steroid treatment. He easily could have been given steroids if he does have cancer.
So the answer right now seems to be, if he is sick, it is a well guarded secret. It was said as well that keeping a huge distance between yourself and others could be indicative of someone who is regularly having their cells destroyed by chemo. Anyway, like everyone we will have to wait and see if anything else comes up later.
May 13, 2022 09:08PM chisandy wrote:
Jackie, good point re: the possible explanation for Putin's "extreme social distancing."
May 14, 2022 04:21AM cardplayer wrote:
Interesting article from Sally Jenkins about the impact of Alito’s draft on Title IX.