Topic: I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

Sep 13, 2021 06:50PM - edited Sep 13, 2021 07:09PM by DivineMrsM

I never cared for the smell of Betadine. Just yuck.

Here's some gossipy news and to me, it truly is 100% believable because it's what Melania appeared to be to me:

The hotly anticipated book, I'll Take Your Questions Now: What I Saw in the Trump White House, by former Trump White House press secretary and Melania Trump's ex-spokesperson, Stephanie Grisham, is causing major waves now that excerpts from the memoir are making rounds. It gives readers insight into what Melania was thinking on Jan. 6, the day of the insurrection on Capitol Hill.

Grishman recounts how…communication between her and Melania quickly dissolved as protestors breached the security barricades and stormed the Capitol.

According to the excerpt, via Politico, she texted the first lady, "Do you want to tweet that peaceful protests are the right of every American, but there is no place for lawlessness and violence?"

"No," Melania wrote back, according to Grisham.

The first lady was too busy to be bothered with the violence unfolding just down the street in Washington, D.C. because "she was at the White House preparing for a photo shoot of a rug she had selected."

Grisham resigned from her position hours after that text message.

That indifference was a continuous theme from Melania as Grisham says she tried to initiate talks about the transition and setting up inauguration tea that has been a tradition since 1952 when the first ladies of the incoming and outgoing administrations meet for a tour of the White House. But the author claims that Melania and Donald believed the election results were fraudulent and no meeting with Dr. Jill Biden ever occurred.

Whereas Grisham used to defend Melania from accusations of being like Marie Antoinette, Politico wrote that she now sees her as "the doomed French queen. Dismissive. Defeated. Detached."

Sep 13, 2021 06:57PM Miriandra wrote:

All these fatal quack remedies made me think of a court case down in Mississippi back in the 90's. A man had broken into a grandmother's house and attempted to rape her. She grabbed him by the testicles and squoze them until he promised to run away. Her recorded court testimony was hilarious. Part of which went: "... So then I gave them a twist, and he screamed and said, 'You're killing me! You're killing me!' So I said, 'Then die for me, motherfucker, die for me!"

I've reached the "Then die for me" stage in this nonsense.

Sep 13, 2021 08:09PM IllinoisLady wrote:

Maybe they should have a spreader colony to go to so they can all enjoy each other.

Sep 13, 2021 08:22PM IllinoisLady wrote:

Sorta says it all.

Sep 13, 2021 08:39PM IllinoisLady wrote:

Just another bad thing covid can do for you -- make an orphan out of you.

California Couple Dies of Covid, Leaving 5 Kids

Posted: 13 Sep 2021 04:31 PM PDT

Sep 14, 2021 05:40AM HomeMom wrote:

Illinois - I'm confused, was he vaccinated or not?

Sep 14, 2021 06:56AM - edited Sep 14, 2021 06:58AM by DivineMrsM

Okay, this is from CNN. The above couple was not vaccinated. I do not agree at all about their reasons to not get it. Look what their indecision did. The husband's mother said it could have happened to anyone. Well, there were actions they could have taken to drastically lessen and prevent this outcome. The couple appears to have been educated, the husband was a teacher. The wife….a nurse.

CNN:

Daniel and Davy Macias spent 18 months being very cautious about 19.Covid-

They wiped down surfaces, showered after work and even had their groceries delivered, but that didn't stop them from contracting the virus.

Davy Macias, a Southern California labor and delivery nurse, was seven months pregnant with her fifth child in early August when she was hospitalized with Covid-19. Daniel Macias also contracted the virus.

Doctors helped Davy Macias, 37, deliver the newborn early by Cesarean section while she was intubated, but she died before she could meet her baby.

Daniel Macias, 38, was being treated in the same hospital when he learned about the birth of his daughter. Nurses showed him photos of the baby, before he too died from complications from the virus less than two weeks later.

The couple was unvaccinated and died on August 26 and September 9, respectively, leaving behind children ranging in age from 3 weeks to 8 years old, Macias told CNN on Monday.

"It wasn't that they didn't want to be vaccinated -- they planned on it," she said. She was adamant that this was a personal choice and each wanted to learn more about its safety prior to being inoculated.

A former kindergarten teacher who recently retired, Terry Macias believes her son and daughter-in-law contracted the coronavirus after a recent family trip to an indoor water park as a last hurrah before returning to school.

The family remains shocked at the sudden loss of Davy and Daniel Macias.

"We didn't see it coming," Terry Macias said tearfully. "Covid doesn't discriminate. It's the luck of the draw and it could happen to anybody.

Sep 14, 2021 07:05AM - edited Sep 14, 2021 07:17AM by IllinoisLady

As to the Calif. couple -- the man was not vaccinated, and his wife was waiting until after she delivered her baby. But as fate would have it, events going on took over and no vaccines were given. It is indeed very sad. I saw a sm. quick story on t.v. this a.m. and the mother's parents will now raise these children. I do not know why the husband had not as yet ( before he got covid ) gotten vaccinated. Any decision to wait or avoid altogether can have disastrously un-forseen circumstances for generations.

ETA: Thanks so much Divine for looking that up. It is indeed VERY sad for those left behind that these otherwise intelligent people apparently thought there was more they needed to know before becoming vaccinated. I can't fathom the many, many years we have had vaccines to help all of us stay well and not have massive loss of life, and then have people saying they need to know more for some reason.

Leaves me to wonder if they might have thought some of the " new cures " like Ivermectin needed exploration ( oh, please ) beforehand. I also wonder if the fact that they had children not qualifying as yet for the vaccine played any part. Just a thought on my part -- I would not have let that be a stop for me. Those children ( who had it seemed a lot of previous protections practiced by their parents ) deserved parents who would be able to likely survive if they did get sick. I also think what will those children think when they are older and visit their own personal "history" and how it changed their existence completely. Just a horrid thing. I do think that story should be repeated often. That and lots of others who are dying when they don't need to. Well, some really do have " freedom " now and it is total and permanent. Like John Brown's.

Sep 14, 2021 09:56AM DivineMrsM wrote:

Good for you, Home Mom. You are doing everyone a service by giving your son that ultimatum.

Sep 14, 2021 11:05AM 2019whatayear wrote:

Is really something how people can talk themselves out of survival. Like I really love being alive and I want to do everything I can to stay alive and to be there for my kids. Human brains are really wild.

Pregnant women have bad covid outcomes. That story is tragic because it was so avoidable. If they had been vaccinated they'd be alive. They might also be alive if they didn't go to an indoor water park...

Those poor kids.

You did the right thing Home Mom.

Anyone who says they have a friend or family member who had an extreme reaction to the vaccine, I take their comment with a huge grain of salt. Just like I take anyone who says they know someone who voted twice in Chicago with a giant grain of salt.

Sep 14, 2021 01:42PM magiclight wrote:

Too many preventable deaths is a tragedy taking parents from children, children from parents, lovers without partners. Years ago I read an inspiring posthumans book by Paul Kalanithi who was a 36 yr old neurosurgeon dead from lung cancer. The title is When Breath becomes air. A magnificent title that might help the unvaccinated realize that breathing is only for the living.

Sep 14, 2021 02:53PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

Yes, it appears from the latest polling that Newsom will not be recalled but it’s not over until officially called. What is particularly disturbing is that Larry Elder, the leading Republican, has already talked about election fraud and set up an online reporting sitefor those who want to report voting irregularities. G-d help us!

Sep 14, 2021 04:17PM Betrayal wrote:

The book "When Breath becomes Air" was a wonderful book and a must read.

Sep 14, 2021 04:33PM MinusTwo wrote:

Yes - "When Breath Becomes Air" was wonderful. I should probably re-read it.

Sep 14, 2021 05:34PM ruthbru wrote: