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Topic: Do I need to cut out Caffeine?

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Posted on: Mar 8, 2015 12:12PM

BoobieBetrayal wrote:

Hi ladies,

Im in the bc club and it's clear to me that I need to make my diet as healthy as possible. Unfortunately, I'm British and I consider a good cup of tea (with milk) and a biscuit key to my happiness!!

I've read that I need to limit my Caffeine to one drink a day. Is that what you all have heard and would recommend?

Thanks!

Veronica x

@BoobieBetrayal Dx 3/5/2015, ILC, Right, 2cm, Stage IIA, 0/0 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+ (FISH) Surgery 3/9/2015 Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel
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Mar 8, 2015 12:49PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

Veronica,

I am a coffee drinker. I drink 1-2 cups a day and like you, it makes me happy. Being happy, even with bc, is something I consider very important to well being and quality of life. I know some will disagree with me, but one or two cups a day, if it makes you happy, should be fine.

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Mar 8, 2015 07:50PM - edited Mar 8, 2015 07:52PM by Manu14

  1. I don't know about caffeine in general; but I read that there is a study or two that showed a possible benefit for women who drink a cup or two ofcffee when they are taking Tamoxifen. If you are ER +, that may be a drug you take after surgery and .
Dx 9/26/2013, IDC, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/22/2013 Lumpectomy: Left Hormonal Therapy 10/28/2013 Hormonal Therapy 1/20/2015 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy Breast
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Mar 8, 2015 08:07PM Scottiemom11 wrote:

I was a caffeine addict (diet coke and tea) before surgery. Trying to limit myself now, so drinking almost all caffeine free diet and decaf tea.

Scottie

Diagnosed at age 48. Oncotype DX 11. BRCA Neg. Additional Therapy: Lupron & Gabapentin 2/5/15. Truncal Lymphedema 9/2/16. Capsular Contracture 2/10/17 & May 2019. .Writer, photographer, mother of two autistic children. Vegetarian and Gluten-Free Dx 10/10/2014, ILC, Right, <1cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery 12/2/2014 Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Dx 12/3/2014, ILC, Right, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Dx 12/3/2014, LCIS, Both breasts, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery 7/26/2015 Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Surgery 3/19/2017 Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Surgery 6/16/2019 Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant
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Mar 8, 2015 08:13PM Claire_in_Seattle wrote:

Veronica...I can't face the world without a POT of Typhoo or PG Tips. Plus, I require full fat milk for it all to work. A biscuit sounds like a lovely addition.

There are other things to worry about, and one of them is your overall wellbeing. I remember when I was going through chemo. One of my friends would come the Saturday following my infusion to make sure I got out on my bicycle. As I was dragging, I would plan for tea with something lovely first. I still remember those moments, and so does she.

Overall, I try to eat a reasonable diet, and I do exercise. Just don't want to give up all the pleasures in life, and one of those is my AM pot of tea. - Claire

Completed all treatment (AC +T, lumpectomy, radiation and 5 years of AIs - anastrazole). Now celebrating every single day for the wonderful life I have been granted. Dx 8/2009, IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, 1/21 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- (FISH)
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Mar 8, 2015 08:54PM WinningSoFar wrote:

My attitude toward food is to be moderate. A few cups of tea is moderate. I just don't believe that food gave us breast cancer, nor do I believe that food can keep it away. Perhaps I'll be proven wrong, but it hasn't happened yet.

Dx 7/1999, ILC/IDC, Right, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 1, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 7/1/1999 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 7/30/1999 Whole-breast: Breast Surgery 7/1/2000 Prophylactic ovary removal Dx 9/26/2011, IBC, Right, 4cm, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Targeted Therapy 10/31/2011 Avastin (bevacizumab) Chemotherapy 11/4/2011 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Surgery 5/5/2012 Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 4/14/2013 External: Bone Chemotherapy 3/1/2014 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Surgery 12/11/2014 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 3/2019, ILC/IDC, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Targeted Therapy 3/15/2019 Verzenio Hormonal Therapy Femara (letrozole)
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Mar 8, 2015 09:19PM - edited Mar 8, 2015 09:33PM by besa

http://www.breastcancerconsultants.com/blog/2015/2...

This is a blog (with references) about caffeine consumption written by a local DC metro area bc medical oncologist. I, like exbrnxgrl, enjoy 1-2 cups of coffee a day. I also feel that being happy is important :-) It seems that, in moderation, caffeine may possibly be something that is actually good for us.

Dx 2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIA, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Mar 9, 2015 04:43AM BoobieBetrayal wrote:

Thanks Ladies, it seems that the results are in!
I'll keep my tea to a miniumum and keep the enjoyment!

Thanks again
:)

@BoobieBetrayal Dx 3/5/2015, ILC, Right, 2cm, Stage IIA, 0/0 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+ (FISH) Surgery 3/9/2015 Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel
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Mar 9, 2015 11:24AM scvmom65 wrote:

Hi Veronica,


A site that may be helpful to you since you are starting your cleaning up journey is foodforbreastcancer . They have a bunch of studies linked to the research they do and you can put in your BC type and it will tell you specifically what to avoid based on research. Hope this helps, I wish someone would have told me about it when I was first starting. I would have saved hours from just random googling :)

Dx 9/1/2010, IDC, <1cm, Stage IB, Grade 3, 0/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/13/2010 Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 10/28/2010 Lymph node removal: Left, Underarm/Axillary Hormonal Therapy 12/8/2010 Surgery 3/23/2011 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Surgery 9/16/2013 Prophylactic ovary removal
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Mar 9, 2015 12:31PM chef127 wrote:

Great topic. I love my 2-3 cups of coffee daily and I say "Take me now if I can't enjoy the simple pleasures in life"!

xoxM

Dx 8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, 1/8 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Radiation Therapy 1/2/2012 Breast
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Mar 9, 2015 01:25PM Nancy2581 wrote:

I agree. I don't drink coffee or diet coke (anymore) but I do drink iced tea. I'm not giving it up. I find food a pleasure in life so moderation as you've all mentioned is the key.

2.8 cm tumor with LVI Dx 6/11/2014, IDC, Right, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 1, 1/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 6/24/2014 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel Chemotherapy 7/22/2014 AC + T (Taxol) Hormonal Therapy 1/28/2015 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Radiation Therapy 1/29/2015 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 12/17/2017 Femara (letrozole)
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Mar 9, 2015 01:45PM Deblc wrote:

What does your doctor say? Mine says that "It has not been proven that any particular food will cause or not cause cancer. Follow the basic guidelines of more fruits and vegetables, everything else in moderation, and most importantly, get some exercise. This is for your overall general health, not just cancer. Live your life!"

My feeling is that the western diet is such that, unless we grow everything ourselves in our backyards, including cattle, we are at the mercy of all the preservatives, chemicals etc that are an INESCAPABLE part of how the food we consume is produced. That's why the western diet causes more cancer than the traditional Asian diet . Not necessarily the kind of food we eat, but how it is grown and produced and preserved. My theory, not at all proven :) .

I am a tea addict too, and my attitude is that, if my life is coming down to cutting out the simplest pleasures.....what's the point? (By the way, Brit tea is so much better than American tea lol. Harrods used to have an almond tea to die for)

Dx 10/18/2013, ILC, 6cm+, Stage IIIC, Grade 3, 12/12 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 11/19/2013 Lymph node removal: Left, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 12/30/2013 AC + T (Taxol) Targeted Therapy 2/13/2014 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Radiation Therapy 6/17/2014 Breast, Lymph nodes
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Mar 9, 2015 02:01PM tgtg wrote:

I think that the ancient Greeks had it right centuries ago--their guiding principle for all choices was "Everything in moderation, nothing in excess." And that approach to life still works in the 21st century. But sadly too many of us "moderns" say that if one is good, three is better," almost in defiance of the gift of wisdom from the ancients. So I just ingest everything with Grecian restraint, and prepare from scratch as much of what I eat as I can and use the highest quality fresh foods as possible. Here's to a cup or two of caffeine, but not to ten of them!

71 at diagnosis, Oncotype #, 12 Dx 12/21/2012, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 1/7/2013 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel Radiation Therapy 3/18/2013 Whole-breast: Breast
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Mar 9, 2015 02:12PM WinningSoFar wrote:

I was watching one of the Great Courses course, Nutrition Made Clear, which is excellent by the way. Somewhere in the 3rd disk, at the beginning of the lecture about food and cancer, the professor, a registered dietician and dedicated exerciser for 30 years, tells us that she was diagnosed with breast cancer. If she can't figure out how to manage food intake to avoid cancer, that tells me that I sure can't and probably no one can.

Dx 7/1999, ILC/IDC, Right, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 1, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 7/1/1999 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 7/30/1999 Whole-breast: Breast Surgery 7/1/2000 Prophylactic ovary removal Dx 9/26/2011, IBC, Right, 4cm, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Targeted Therapy 10/31/2011 Avastin (bevacizumab) Chemotherapy 11/4/2011 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Surgery 5/5/2012 Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 4/14/2013 External: Bone Chemotherapy 3/1/2014 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Surgery 12/11/2014 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 3/2019, ILC/IDC, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Targeted Therapy 3/15/2019 Verzenio Hormonal Therapy Femara (letrozole)
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Mar 10, 2015 03:41PM Momine wrote:

I have not heard that, and if anything I have seen a number of things suggesting that caffeine, in moderation (2-4 cups) is downright healthy, including for cancer survvors. But you might want tocut back on the bisquits

Dx 6/1/2011, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, 7/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 6/20/2011 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 9/13/2011 Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy 1/9/2012 Surgery 3/8/2012 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy 4/1/2012 Femara (letrozole)

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