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Topic: How to cut out sugar? Study links BC to high sucrose diet.

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Posted on: Jan 5, 2016 03:14PM

Tinkerbells wrote:

Hi all,

There was a recent study linking BC rates and recurrence to high sucrose (table sugar) diets. I do not necessarily believe I should rush to believe every word of this study - as we know studies go back and forth on nutritional advice - however i admit the one part of my diet that still absolutely stinks is my dessert consumption. I am about 7 pounds above my healthy weight and I have no doubt that cutting back on the refined sugars will do this.

Not only am I looking for suggestions for how to kick the dessert habit - but was wondering if anyone knew what would entail a sugar free diet. It's just table sugar, sucrose, they are talking about? Not fructose found naturally in fruit? And if I go sugar free - will artificial sweeteners like Stevia cause a similar effect in my body?

Thanks in advance for any and all advice - I'd like to kick this ridiculous addiction to sweets to the curb once and for all.

Contains some artificial additives and preservatives. Dx 2/25/2014, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 1/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Dx 2/25/2014, DCIS, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 3/1/2014 Mastectomy: Left, Right Chemotherapy 4/10/2014 AC Targeted Therapy 6/1/2014 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Targeted Therapy 6/1/2014 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Chemotherapy 6/1/2014 Taxol (paclitaxel)
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Nov 23, 2017 09:40AM Castigame wrote:

Shells,

I second cutting out processed food is the key. Besides BC risk, I prefer butter and salt at home bc I know how much I put in my dishes. I tried to think twice about eating sugary stuff. And avoid any artificial sweeteners. I still love those brown sugar packets.

Mimi Dx 1/11/2017, IDC, Left, <1cm, Stage IA, 0/2 nodes Dx 1/11/2017, IDC: Papillary/IDC: Cribriform, Right, 3cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 4/17 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 2/15/2017 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Prophylactic ovary removal Chemotherapy 3/21/2017 Radiation Therapy 7/31/2017 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes, Chest wall Surgery 10/30/2017
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Nov 24, 2017 09:21AM claireinaz wrote:

This might help you... the sugar causes cancer myth is really oversimplified science, but for those who need to lose weight (because lower BMI seems to be a factor in higher rates of survival), cutting out sugar means that calories are cut down, allowing for weight loss.

Check out #4.

http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2014/03/24/dont-believe-the-hype-10-persistent-cancer-myths-debunked/

9/29/11 ILC, 2 c. stage II grade 1, ER/PR+ HER2-, 6/11 nodes, lumpectomy, DDAC x 4, Taxol x 12, 33 rads, Tamoxifen/arimidex/aromasin, BMX/immed recon 7/3/13 "In the midst of winter, I found in me an invincible summer.” Albert Camus
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Nov 24, 2017 03:49PM Shellsatthebeach wrote:

Mimi, I feel so much better cutting process foods out of my diet. Also, I'm more leery about artificial sugar sweeteners than the real stuff. I am trying to cut down on my sugar intake to a few times a week, but will avoid carbs as much as possible. I have never tried the brown sugar packets.

claireinaz, interesting link. I agree that saying sugar is the cause of cancer is way oversimplified.

Dx 3/2017, IDC, Left, 3cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, ER+, HER2- Surgery 8/28/2017 Lymph node removal; Mastectomy: Left Dx 9/15/2017, DCIS/IDC, Left, Stage IIIB, Grade 3, 6/10 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ Targeted Therapy 9/24/2017 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Radiation Therapy 10/17/2017 Breast, Lymph nodes, Chest wall Targeted Therapy Perjeta (pertuzumab) Chemotherapy AC + T (Taxotere)
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Dec 18, 2017 01:37AM Susaine wrote:

Hi ChiSandy,

Thanks for the grain-fed meat information. I wonder what a great content you provided.

I just try to follow you but we are facing problem in finding naturally grown animals in our place. We came across animals for meat which are wild.

But whatever may be reason I just wanted to stop eating grain fed meats sold in the markets.

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Dec 19, 2017 08:14AM amarantha wrote:

Cutting out sugar means cutting out simple sugars, like white starches, potatoes, bread, rice, etc, and non-fat milk, anything that risks spiking blood sugar, and thereby insulin, which according to Jason Fung, author of the Obesity Code, is the cause of Type 2 diabetes, aka Insulin Resistance, both of which are high risk factors for Breast Cancer. I spent a year cutting out all those kinds of foods, followed a pretty strict low carb diet just after finishing treatment for breast cancer in May 2013 and lost about 60 pounds from 230 to 170 . I felt fantastic, and was able to do lots more excercise, and look much prettier. The diet stopped working after a while, I realised I had to also do intermittent fasting. But after two years, I stopped restricting carbs and slowly got back to some of my old habits, at which point my cancer returned ! I have not had the courage to go back on the strict low carb diet, but I am quite sure it would help a little bit at least. The problem is that when you are on treatment for Breast cancer, sometimes a potato is the only thing you can get down. Other priorities come into being, like simply finding something to eat at all, and enjoying your life, what's left of it.

IBC metastasic, ER+. Tx: Gezmar, Decadron. Past txx : Xeloda, Halaven, Cisplatin, Afinitor/Aromasine, Ibrance/Faslodex, Tamoxifen, mastectomy x 2, chemo-radiation with Cisplatin x 2, CEF, Taxotere, Carboplatin, + the kitchen sink
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Dec 19, 2017 08:26AM amarantha wrote:

I have been following Jason Fung's blog for years. He is delving into preventing or curing cancer by autophagy now, this is not his field, and may be a non-starter, but at least he is asking the questions. Sometimes he explores an idea, and reverses his opinion. He's been back and forth on the subject of the low carb diet. He argues that carbs are not the only thing which spike insulin, red meat can do it too, and other things, and that the glycemic index indicates which carbs spike sugar, but the things which spike insulin do not always follow the glycemic index as expected. I would read everything of his I could get my hands on. https://idmprogram.com/blog/

IBC metastasic, ER+. Tx: Gezmar, Decadron. Past txx : Xeloda, Halaven, Cisplatin, Afinitor/Aromasine, Ibrance/Faslodex, Tamoxifen, mastectomy x 2, chemo-radiation with Cisplatin x 2, CEF, Taxotere, Carboplatin, + the kitchen sink
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Dec 25, 2017 04:15AM Susaine wrote:

Natural food that contain sugar works fine. For example fruits, carrots etc.

But if sugar is processed industrially then it is refined sugar. Problem starts if we are using these sugar. As our liver cannot synthesis these foods naturally.

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Dec 30, 2017 03:26AM Amelia01 wrote:

I’m starting to read everything by Valter Longo (he supports fasting) it is all related to sugar in the end.

I’m gearing up to fast before chemo. Not sure how my 105lb frame will handle it.

I actually do eat even though I lost 10 lbs right after dx.

Looking back my diet had a lot of sugar in it (wine, dairy, carbs). I think I’m malnourished, not thin.

Raw carrots have low glycemic index, cooked carrots high... who knew?

Dx 10/17/2017, ILC/IDC, Left, 6cm+, 17/21 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 11/7/2017 Chemotherapy Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Taxol (paclitaxel)
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Dec 30, 2017 02:34PM mysunshine48 wrote:

Hi! Just got on and one of my topics is sugar. Amelia01, I would not fast before chemo. You are small already and you will lose weight during chemo. Your appetite will change and you will not even feel like eating... at least that happened to me and a lot of others. I now eat some foods with sugar.....a muffin or a cookie, in moderation. I do believe the studies that say sugar is not good for BC, but, then, sugar is not good for anyone! Just be smart! Eat healthy....lots of fruits and vegetables. I do not eat red meat and only Wild fish and free range, non antibiotic chicken. I try to find organic.

During chemo, eat carbs, like pasta, mashed potatoes and good solid food. Remember, you will be having all these chemicals going through your body and it is all washed out fast anyway, so EAT all you can because you just automatically lose weight. You need the calories! Don't fast! You will just be hurting your body more.

I will pray for you and wish you well.

Dx 1/2015, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 5/14/2015 TAC Chemotherapy 5/14/2015 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Chemotherapy 5/14/2015 Surgery 10/24/2015 Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Surgery Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Hormonal Therapy Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jul 27, 2019 05:35PM Wench5312 wrote:

My niece went through a bad battle with breast cancer. She uses dates for her sweetners in juice and smoothes.

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Oct 6, 2019 12:35AM iulia wrote:

My mother in law has stage IV BC and she has gone low carb but not keto. She doesn't consume fruits that have high concentrations of sugar anymore but she does consume some berries. She doesn't eat potatoes, rice, carby bread/pasta anymore but she consumes a little starch from legumes and squashes such as kabocha or pumpkin or butternut squash sometimes. We buy low carb bread/pasta/flour and I bake lowcarb/keto desserts that I sweeten with erythritol/alluluse/monkfruit. These sweeteners have 0-1 GI, are truly low calorie, and have no impact on the blood sugar. They are safe.

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Oct 6, 2019 12:34PM Yogatyme wrote:

I am not strict about no sugar, but I am very mindful of amount, frequency of sugar and carbs and have followed this for the past 3 years. I have lost 25 lbs without feeling deprived and the biggest bonus is that I don’t really have much taste for cookies, candy, pie, cakes, coffeecake, etc. However, I have to refuse to make coconut cake bc I will eat that all day long!!

Yogatyme Dx 7/19/2019, IDC: Papillary, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 8/13/2019 Mastectomy: Left, Right

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