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I agree with awb that LCIS with ILC is probably a different story than LCIS alone. Your Oncontype dx will give you some numbers with which to help you make a decision.
There may be some controversy about PBMs in women with ILC and LCIS (diagnosed at the same time.)
This 2006 paper found a 14% recurrance in women with IBC + LCIS and a 7% with IBC alone.
Int J Radiat Oncol Biol Phys. 2006 Oct 1;66(2):365-71. Links
The impact of lobular carcinoma in situ in association with invasive breast cancer on the rate of local recurrence in patients with early-stage breast cancer treated with breast-conserving therapy.
Jolly S, Kestin LL, Goldstein NS, Vicini FA.
Department of Radiation Oncology, William Beaumont Hospital, Royal Oak, MI 48073, USA.
PURPOSE: The significance of lobular carcinoma in situ (LCIS) associated with invasive breast cancer in patients undergoing breast-conserving therapy (BCT) remains controversial. We examined the impact of the presence and extent of LCIS associated with invasive breast cancer on clinical outcome in BCT patients. METHODS AND MATERIALS: From 1980 to 1996, 607 cases of invasive breast cancer were treated with BCT. All slides were reviewed by a single pathologist. Positive margin was defined as presence of invasive carcinoma/ductal carcinoma in situ at the inked margin. Multiple clinical, pathologic, and treatment-related variables were analyzed for their association with ipsilateral breast tumor recurrence (IBTR) and true recurrence/marginal miss (TR/MM). Median follow-up was 8.7 years. RESULTS: Fifty-six patients (9%) had LCIS in association with invasive cancer. On univariate analysis, positive final margin, positive/no reexcision, smaller maximum specimen dimension, and the presence of LCIS predicted for IBTR. The 10-year IBTR rate was 14% for cases with LCIS vs. 7% without LCIS (p=0.04). On multivariate analysis, positive margin (p<0.01), positive/no reexcision (p=0.04), and presence of LCIS (p=0.02) remained independently associated with IBTR; positive margin (p<0.01) and LCIS (p=0.04) were also associated with TR/MM failure. When examining only cases with negative final margins, the presence of LCIS remained associated with higher IBTR and TR/MM rates (p<0.01). CONCLUSION: The presence of LCIS was independently associated with higher rate of IBTR and TR/MM after BCT for invasive breast cancer. LCIS may have significant premalignant potential and progress to an invasive IBTR at the site of index lesion. The adequacy of excision of LCIS associated with invasive carcinoma should be considered in patients undergoing BCT.
Sorry, I can't get the entire abstract to post, its some glitch. I got abstract from Pubmed.
Cancer. 2001 May 15;91(10):1862-9. Links
Lobular carcinoma in situ increases the risk of local recurrence in selected patients with stages I and II breast carcinoma treated with conservative surgery and radiation.
Sasson AR, Fowble B, Hanlon AL, Torosian MH, Freedman G, Boraas M, Sigurdson ER, Hoffman JP, Eisenberg BL, Patchefsky A.
Department of Surgical Oncology, Fox Chase Cancer Center, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19104, USA.
BACKGROUND: Lobular carcinoma in situ (LCIS) is a known risk factor for the development of invasive breast carcinoma. However, little is known regarding the impact of LCIS in association with an invasive carcinoma on the risk of an ipsilateral breast tumor recurrence (IBTR) in patients who are treated with conservative surgery (CS) and radiation therapy (RT). The purpose of this study was to examine the influence of LCIS on the local recurrence rate in patients with early stage breast carcinoma after breast-conserving therapy. METHODS: Between 1979 and 1995, 1274 patients with Stage I or Stage II invasive breast carcinoma were treated with CS and RT. The median follow-up time was 6.3 years. RESULTS: LCIS was present in 65 of 1274 patients (5%) in the study population. LCIS was more likely to be associated with an invasive lobular carcinoma (30 of 59 patients; 51%) than with invasive ductal carcinoma (26 of 1125 patients; 2%). Ipsilateral breast tumor recurrence (IBTR) occurred in 57 of 1209 patients (5%) without LCIS compared with 10 of 65 patients (15%) with LCIS (P = 0.001). The 10-year cumulative incidence rate of IBTR was 6% in women without LCIS compared with 29% in women with LCIS (P = 0.0003). In both groups, the majority of recurrences were invasive. The 10-year cumulative incidence rate of IBTR in patients who received tamoxifen was 8% when LCIS was present compared with 6% when LCIS was absent (P = 0.46). Subsets of patients in which the presence of LCIS was associated with an increased risk of breast recurrence included tumor size < 2 cm (T1), age < 50 years, invasive ductal carcinoma, negative lymph node status, and the absence of any adjuvant systemic treatment (chemotherapy or hormonal therapy) (P < 0.001). LCIS margin status, invasive lobular carcinoma histology, T2 tumor size, and positive axillary lymph nodes were not associated with an increased risk of breast recurrence in these women. CONCLUSIONS: The authors conclude that the presence of LCIS significantly increases the risk of an ipsilateral breast tumor recurrence in certain subsets of patients who are treated with breast-conserving therapy. The risk of local recurrence appears to be modified by the use of tamoxifen. Further studies are needed to address this issue.
However, in this study, again with about 65 patients,
Cancer. 2006 Jan 1;106(1):28-34. Links
Is lobular carcinoma in situ as a component of breast carcinoma a risk factor for local failure after breast-conserving therapy? Results of a matched pair analysis.
Ben-David MA, Kleer CG, Paramagul C, Griffith KA, Pierce LJ.
Department of Radiation Oncology, Cancer and Geriatrics Center, University of Michigan Medical School, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-0010, USA.
BACKGROUND: The goals of the current study were to compare the clinicopathologic presentations of patients with lobular carcinoma in situ (LCIS) as a component of breast carcinoma who were treated with breast conserving surgery (BCS) and radiation therapy (RT) with those of patients without LCIS as part of their primary tumor and to report rates of local control by overall cohort and specifically in patients with positive margins for LCIS and multifocal LCIS. METHODS: Sixty-four patients with Stages 0-II breast carcinoma with LCIS (LCIS-containing tumor group, LCTG) that had received BCS+RT treatment at the University of Michigan between 1989 and 2003 were identified. These patients were matched to 121 patients without LCIS (control group) in a 1:2 ratio. RESULTS: The median follow-up time was 3.9 years (range, 0.3-18.9 yrs). There were no significant differences between the two groups with regard to clinical, pathologic, or treatment-related variables or in mammographic presentation, with the exception of a higher proportion of the LCTG patients who received adjuvant hormonal therapy (P = 0.01). The rates of local control at 5 years were 100% in the LCTG group and 99.1% in the control group (P = 0.86). The presence of LCIS at the margins and the size and presence of multifocal LCIS did not alter the rate of local control. CONCLUSIONS: The extent of LCIS and its presence at the margins did not reduce the excellent rates of local control after BCS+RT. The data suggest that LCIS in the tumor specimen, even when multifocal, should not affect selection of patients for BCS and whole-breast RT.
The decision whether or not to get mastectomies is a very personal, individual decision.
You will make the best decision for yourself, whatever you choose.
The women on the ILC forum may know more, and you may want to post there....Best of luck with your waiting and decisions.
Classic LCIS.If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them- Isaac Asimov
12/8/2005, LCIS, ER+/PR-
1/24/2006 Lumpectomy: Left
7/15/2006 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)