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  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited June 2011

    AC back on  yesterday. LE is getting better. ATeamNana sounds like I have the same issue as you… some slight pain/numbness and heaviness. Mine is also mild but it can be annoying especially when I want to go to sleep. I was always under the impression you shouldn't wear your sleeves to sleep. There are special sleeves for sleeping? In general I find wearing the sleeve all day really helps. I always wear them when I exercise.

    Laura I hate that you get so much discomfort from LE. The massage never did much for me. When I get this fluid build up it's pretty solid. The sleeve tends to soften it up.

    Mama can't they give you something for the anxiety? Good luck today.

    If someone doesn't post some prom photos soon I'm going to post my senior prom photos. Tongue out

    Can't wait for lunch! Onward with no wig!… I'm going to miss that.

  • ritajean
    ritajean Posts: 4,042
    edited June 2011

    Jackie,  maybe we will need to find a day when I can drive down this summer, pick you up, and meet  Nana halfway between your house and hers to do lunch and chat.

    You gals have me being very careful with my lifting and etc. after reading about your LE.  I am so sorry that you're having to deal with this and am certainly trying to avoid it myself.  Hugs to all of you!

    It's been drizzling here all morning.  That didn't fit into my schedule either as we're entertaining the golf group after golf tomorrow and I needed to mow and trim.  Maybe it will clear in a bit and I can get out there.

    I hope everyone is enjoying your day!

  • ATeamNana
    ATeamNana Posts: 224
    edited June 2011

    I thought they told me it was ok to wear sleeve and the two gloves I have at night....

    Maybe I should find out...but the sleeve helps me to keep it straight and I had less pain...numbness...the next morning..??? Maybe the humidity was less the next day and it had nothing to do with sleeping in the sleeve...that is what is so frustrating...who knows which thing is helping/not helping...I just deal with it.....what choice do we have:)

    Wow Jackie....I wish I were that far along in the cleaning....the yard is done (I can't take credit for it my husband does that)  I did get a little done in the house yesterday afternoon ...but much more needs done......

    RitaJean that would be great to meet for lunch with Jackie sometime...I think she is approx 45 min from me...(I do know how to get to her neck of the woods... Not sure what direction you are in)

    Have a good day everyone and I hope we don't get too terrible storms!

  • Adey
    Adey Posts: 2,413
    edited June 2011

    So ladies... felt some lumpy business going on on my left (non cancer) side and just had ultrasound, benign, all is well, thank God.  I didn't have that "feeling" of doom but was nervous.  Big sigh of relief.  (c:

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited June 2011

    Nana.....I haven't looked at a map lately, but if I had to guess I'd say that Rita is probably southwest of you.....but then I'm not too trustworthy on directions.  Rita and a very special friend of hers...Mary Jane made a trip all the way to Marion, Illinois when I was having my radiation txs there.  Quite a distance......and Mary Jane lives quite a lot farther north of Rita.  She ( MJ ) got up at 4 a.m. to get to Rita's for the trip.

    Girls, I have never said this --- because I'm first not a good complainer anyway, and second there are some things you have to live through......but Rita and Mary Jane  ( I, just for some reason for the first time this morning, told my husband Denny ) I bet never knew what a breath of fresh air they were to me at that time.  The motel was not much at all, and there was little to do, and I bordered on depression most of the time.  I could not believe anyone could be so kind and go so far out of their way to bring sunshine into someone else's life.  I did 7 weeks there and was proud of myself when it was over.....but I don't kid myself....two special friends gave me a giant boost to bolster my determination to make that happen.  I'm still not sure I ever want to see the inside of a cheap motel again --- .  I know they ( Rita and Mary Jane ) took it as a small gesture, but I took it as so much more

    Nana.....let me be the first to admit....we have two acres and Dh just needs help with it.  He is not a self-starter, go getter.....so sometimes I get the yard started.....then sometimes he just asks for help.  As far as the house.....it was a work in progress ( though not much had been made ) before diagnosis ( late 2007 with lumpectomy, chemo and rads taking up most of 2008 ) and I am only now feeling like the worst of getting it back to some semblance of actual order and cleanliness is done. We can relax about this now.  And I do relax a lot more and no longer feel that I must be spotless. 

    Anyway, all the ladies here are fantastic and everyone here as been extraordinarily kind and considerate --  all shapes, sizes, directions, but stunning in the ability to care.  Your going to love meeting these ladies.  .

    Hugs, Jackie

    Adey.....you were posting with me.  Glad about your good news.  Checking is good....even if you suspect that it is nothing to be too concerned about, a little nagging feeling will hang around until you find a way to know for certain.  Glad you got your thumbs up. 

    Jackie

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited June 2011

    Adey so happy it was a falsie (alarm that is).

    ATeamNana according to this link on the Step out site you should not wear them at night (see quote below. You should check with your doctor/PT about this:

    "Day or night?
    Because of the nature, fabric, and design of compression garments, they are not recommended for nighttime wear. Their efficiency in increasing lymph flow depends on the action of your muscles as you go about your daily activities. Sleeping in them reduces their efficiency and runs the risk of causing constrictions that can cause a worsening of lymphedema. Instead, wrap your hands and arms at night in layered short-stretch bandages, or order special night garments designed to help maintain fluid flow when you are inactive. "

  • Adey
    Adey Posts: 2,413
    edited June 2011

    Me freakin' too Lago!  Thanks.  Laughing

    Thanks for the LE info.  I still haven't used my scrip for an LE consult.  Me; but I don't have any problems with it.  Onc; we want to keep it that way.  I will eventually.

  • blackjack
    blackjack Posts: 771
    edited June 2011

    HI Girls.....Happy Thursday and only 2.5 days left of school and then it's playtime for me. Can you tell that I am sooo ready to be off. Yup I am. Sorry, I am going to lunch with all of you. Zap is doing a great job of planning the Lunch Bunch get together. Maybe this is a new career for you...party planner.

    Nana ...have a great time meeting the girls. They can get out of control sometimes.lol and plan on a very long lunch. They can be very chatty too.

    MamaV...welcome to our little corner of the boards. You have come to a great place as we all are at different stages of this disease. Please tell us about yourself. We will try to help answer questions you may have.

    Adey...falling off the track..ohh no. I am running 3/ 4miles now. I hope to do more when school is out. Glad to hear that all was b9 on the good side. I had a big scare in Oct had MRI biopsy and all was ok. Just hate those lumps. But it is good to ck it out.

    Jackie...glad you are getting some nicer weather by you. No rain just need more sun. How is Maggie feeling these days.

    Rita...how is golfing? I have not been out yet...but soon. Really need that beach chair from Wendy. lol

    Lago...no air in your apt. Ohhh no glad that it is back on for you. I go to a wonderful lymp massage specialist and she really keeps my arm in good shape. No swelling . But I do have a sleeve which I wear when moving a lot of stuff.

    Laura...sorry to hear about your LE too. Maybe a good massage will get that fluid moving for you. My girl works in Palatine if you are interested. Just let me know.

    Wendy... are you just sitting on that beach chair...where are you ???

    Lisa....congrats on your son and his musical accomplishments. You must be soooo proud. Hope you don't have too busy of a summer with the kids. lol

    To everyone else I missed I am thinking of you all and hope all is going well.

    Gotta run...have a great evening...go out and have some fun !!!!!!

    Summer is here yeah!!!!!!!!!!

    BJ 

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited June 2011

    Adey if you do purchase sleeves do NOT got to the place at rush. They are clueless. My sleeves were too short (gloves too but that was OK since I really don't need the glove). The also sold me the ones with silicone which I found out later I do not need and were irritating. When I went back for the exchange they still were pushing for the silicone… because that's what they had in stock. The even told me to wear the old ones with it folded down so the silicone wouldn't bother me. So that would have made the sleeve even shorter and more compression in the area where it was doubled over. Totally clueless. My 2nd set came from a different company entirely.

    Blackjack my LE MD didn't give me the impression the massage would do much for me, mostly a temporary fix. He sent me to PT more to get my range back. Wearing the sleeves really does help a lot but if its humid I now know I will flair up. I'm sure I would have been fine it the AC wasn't off till yesterday.

  • zap
    zap Posts: 1,850
    edited June 2011

    I just need to say this to be fair.  Of ALL the ladies here, I am the only one who had troubles with radiation and not chemo.   The fact is I am so fair-skinned and I did not put on the globs of lotion until it was too late.  As a result I had third degree burns.  I am looking at your picture, Mama V, and you are not as fair-skinned as I am.  Jackie is right about following the orders given on the creams.  I heard that radiation was a cake walk after chemo and I believed it and never did the lotions and ended up cutting radiation short due to burns.  So I was foolish and you will not be.

    I will be happy to pick you up,  Nana Marsha for the lunch at Weber's  My cell is 224-456-3923 I will make reservations for about ten and will request a quiet area for us to meet.  Having never been there I hope to heavens it  is okay.  Laura, party planner girl,  jump in any time!

    Take care,

    Susan

  • blackjack
    blackjack Posts: 771
    edited June 2011

    Lago...I had chest lymphodema and massage therapy really can make a difference in the movement of fluid. Granted it is a slow process and I went to PT for 8 weeks and yes my fluid was gone. It is a daily thing...like tuning up a car...massaging and moving that fluid. There is a medical supply house in Mt. Prospect who has a breast specialist who will fit you with the proper sleeve. There are many companies out there but I find that Jobst sleeve is the best fit for me.

    Zap.. I also had a bad reaction to rads...I would not recommend the excelled tx. Way to much for me. I am still dealing with post side affects.

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited June 2011

    BJ I agree that massage therapy can make a difference I just think in my case it didn't work. It might be because I have such a mild case. Exercise and wearing my sleeves works best.

    I have been measured properly by my PT. Initially I got the sleeves as a preventative so the place my BS sent me did the measurements… clueless folks. I just don't want Adey have to go through the same thing since we are being treated at the same place. (I think).

  • MamaV
    MamaV Posts: 373
    edited June 2011

    Just got home from Taxol #7 - 5 to go!  After starting A/C on Jan 26th, I am finally able to count on one hand the chemo treatments I have left!  The light at the end of the chemo tunnel has started to flicker :)

    Zap - I will learn from your experience for sure!  I am Italian so have olive skin so RO thinks I should be ok - but will NOT forget the lotions regimen!  Probably won't start until August anyway so I should just focus on getting through chemo first!

    Adey - awesome news!

    Blackjack - a bit about me ... turned 40 last year - had first mammo that showed nothing.  Found a lump a few weeks later (that only showed up on ultrasound) and the rest is history.  I have an awesome DH and 2 children - 15 (boy) and 12 (girl).  I work full time in Human Resources and am doing the best I can to juggle treatments, work, marriage and motherhood!  I had the typical hellish reaction to A/C and have had a much better time with weekly Taxol.  5 to go! 

    Thanks all for the welcome and information.  You seem like a great group!

  • makmak
    makmak Posts: 374
    edited June 2011

    Welcome MamaV.. You and I are the same age actually!! 

    Sorry I haven't been posting.. been running around like mad with all the kids finishing school.. My DS graduated middle school yesterday and did his speech.. He had to go first and was so nervous.. but he did great.. He also got a few awards so it was very nice for him to have his day to shine instead of his big sister!! Today was Gab's 18 mos check up.. she's tall!!  Tomorrow mall with DD.. busy busy.. I feel a bit guilty as my diet and excercise have not been up to par lately.. Trying to not 'feel' myself every day and not get too scared.. the Scan will tell in due time..

    I keep listening to all you LE girls and thinking that if the day comes for surgery, I will not get any nodes removed.. Seeing my grandma go through a very bad case for the last 15 years and reading this just doesn't help.. In my case there is no evidence of real benefit.. so why..  

    I wish I could join you all in Lombard.. but will be in NOLA, so maybe next month BJ and Laura can plan something that I can attend!! 

    Adey - still waiting...

  • joan888
    joan888 Posts: 711
    edited June 2011

    Belated welcome to MamaV.  This is a super group of ladies who can get anybody through anything.  This journey is no fun for sure, but the suppport you find here will make it easier.... and so much to learn from everyone else sharing.  I found rads to be a piece of cake compared to chemo, but I didn't realize how fatigued I was getting until near the end and really did not recover from it completely for a couple months.  During rads, it just became such a chore to keep running everyday, watching the clock, etc and loading on the Aquaphor all the time.

    Adey... so glad it was B9.  Whew!  Makmak... your kids are really keeping you busy.  Congrats to your son on his awards and giving his speech.  I could not have done that in 8th grade... my knees would have been knocking.  He's brave.

    Well, we are off to visit our farm land in South Dakota this weekend.  It is along the Missouri River in very southeastern part of state and is being flooded by the record breaking release of water from the dams upstream.  Sort of a mess.  Nothing we can do about it, but watch.  Feel so bad for the many people who are having to evacaute from homes.

    Not sure yet if I will make the lunch on June 14th.  Going to try. 

  • ATeamNana
    ATeamNana Posts: 224
    edited June 2011

    I only had one visit with therapist for LE they diagnosed as mild LE...My choice not to go back (1 1/2 hour drive) but got instruction on massage...etc.  it is not horrible just mostly aggravating.  I still have numb toes and tingling so I'm not fully convinced LE or just neuropathy from the Chemo.  I had radiation burn at the end of rads but got something called Silvadine (spelling??) and it worked wonders.  I have to admit I was not good at the lotion prior...etc either.  I did not have too many issues with the A/C & Taxol so thought Rads was a piece cake right up to the last week when I got the burn..but it healed quickly with the Silvadine.  I finished rads in April 2010 and the visit for the LE was sometime after that so I have to admit I don't remember a lot of what they told me to do for the LE...I kind of remember the massage stuff and try to do it the best I remember.  It has been pretty good today...I think it depends a lot on what activity I do since I am right handed and that is the arm it is in.    I have typed this three times now trying not to ramble...sorry I give up and I'm posting it...

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited June 2011
    "A stumbling block to the pessimist is a stepping stone to the optimist."

    Eleanor Roosevelt

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited June 2011

    It's going to be hot, but it's going to be a great, good, healthy, happy day.

    Hugs, Jackie

  • ATeamNana
    ATeamNana Posts: 224
    edited June 2011

    Yeah  it is nice here also Jackie....I'm hopoing the rain stays away for awhile...I'll take the Heat!

    Have a good day everyone!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited June 2011

    As usual, in my reading I stumbled on a fantastic quote and some info on the author.  I thought it was something we would all enjoy reading......." Out of Africa " is one of the movies on my for all time I will love it list.

    I'm already thinking.....there are going to be strange marks here, but I going to put the quote here anyway....DRAT.

    Today's Inspiration
    June 03, 2011

    Quote of the Day

    "Difficult times have helped me to understand better than before how infinitely rich and beautiful life is in every way, and that so many things that one goes worrying about are of no importance whatsoever."
    – Isak Dinesen

    About Isak Dinesen

    Isak Dinesen was the pen name of Karen Blixen, the Danish author famously portrayed by Meryl Streep in the film of her best-selling memoir, Out of Africa. She was born near Copenhagen in 1885. In 1914, she and her new husband moved to Kenya to run a coffee plantation. She stayed on after divorcing her husband ten years later, living an unusually independent life. Her book of stories, Seven Gothic Tales, sold well, but Out of Africa made her a worldwide success. She died in 1962.

    June 03, 2011

    Quote of the Day

    "Difficult times have helped me to understand better than before how infinitely rich and beautiful life is in every way, and that so many things that one goes worrying about are of no importance whatsoever."
    - Isak Dinesen

    About Isak Dinesen

    Isak Dinesen was the pen name of Karen Blixen, the Danish author famously portrayed by Meryl Streep in the film of her best-selling memoir, Out of Africa. She was born near Copenhagen in 1885. In 1914, she and her new husband moved to Kenya to run a coffee plantation. She stayed on after divorcing her husband ten years later, living an unusually independent life. Her book of stories, Seven Gothic Tales, sold well, but Out of Africa made her a worldwide success. She died in 1962.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited June 2011
    Hard times don't create heroes.
    It is during the hard times when the "hero" within us is revealed.
    - Bob Riley
  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited June 2011

    Good morning everyone.....no news flashes here I'm sure.  We finally had to turn on the a/c much sooner than I wanted.  We will be under a heat advisory for the next week as will, I think, most of Illinois and probably a lot of Missouri.  Hope all remain safe.  So far, a very strange yr.

    Will be thinking of you all ( hope anyone who needs to run will do it early ) and hoping you have a cool, calm, peaceful Saturday.  See you all later.

    Hugs, Jackie

  • zap
    zap Posts: 1,850
    edited June 2011

    What a weekend.  We have three graduation parties and I have a wedding shower.  These youngn's are growing up fast.

     Just a quick question for the working women who are going to try and squeeze in lunch at Webers. Would 12 noon, 12:30  or a 1 PM luncheon time  reservation make any difference for you?  Let me know.

  • LisaMomOfFour
    LisaMomOfFour Posts: 226
    edited June 2011

    Thanks for asking zap.  12 or 12:30 are fine for me... 1pm might be tricky.  

    I'm with you on how busy this time of year is.  I just got home, and I left the house at 9:30am this morning, it's 7pm now.  My day included two soccer games, a cheerleading open house, and a soccer team party....   Now I need to make sure all the clothes are ready for tomorrow's soccer games, and the music recital......  If I don't fall asleep soon!   

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited June 2011
    Today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this day.
    - Francis Gray
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 4,011
    edited June 2011

    I have had it with this LE...the pain is horrible...it's SO frustrating...I HATE this frickin disease...I am NOT good...FRICK! My arm feels like an over-stuffeed sausage. What more can I handle...NONE.

  • ATeamNana
    ATeamNana Posts: 224
    edited June 2011

    LauraGTO ...I am so sorry you are having such issues with your arm...all I can do is say a prayer....

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited June 2011

    Laura, I am so sorry that your feeling such distress right now.  I'm sure the heat makes it seem even worse and seems to be quite possibly a big reason why it is flaring.  Sounds like you need some therapy sessions to get it in some semblance of control.

    Very humid here today after a big pour-down storm.  I'm looking for less humid weather, but I think we are in for at least a week or so of this. 

    See you all in the morning,

    Hugs, Jackie

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited June 2011
    Laura that sucks. My pain is manageable & the recovery is very slow but I think it's getting better. The humidity is hell on us. If you are that swollen and have that much pain it does sound like some therapy might do the trick.
  • Adey
    Adey Posts: 2,413
    edited June 2011

    Good morning.  Hmm... is that why my arm is achy?  Duh.  That does suck Laura!  LE healing vibes................