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  • ATeamNana
    ATeamNana Posts: 224
    edited July 2011

    Just a quick HI during lunch....have been trying to read and catch up on all the news....

    my my so many postings so little time :(  

    Wishing everyone the best....try to stay cool for those in heat warnings...and so sorry for those that are having power issues with trees down and such...

     This humidity and work we have been doing around the house has both my arms aching....but I still keep plugging away and am thankful for what I can do.

    Nana Marsha

  • BustersMom
    BustersMom Posts: 260
    edited July 2011

    Happy Friday everyone!

    Wendy & Jackie - thanks for the well wishes, as always!!!

    Just about 1 more hour of work to go (shame on me, I snuck on here just for a moment, heehee!) 

    Have a fabulous weekend ladies.

    Julie   

  • illinoisnative
    illinoisnative Posts: 33
    edited July 2011

    Happy Friday, ladies! 

    Officially done with radiation!  Yipee!

    It's going to be soooo great not to have to travel to radiation then work.  I was driving all over timbuctoo every day.  And I get to wear REAL deotorant again!!!   Because, let me tell you, there is a difference...lol.  Of course, the bad news is I'll be starting tamoxifin (that appointment is later in the month)...and I've read those threads. *shudders*  I should have been happy with radiation.  I'm pretty nervous about that.

    Looking forward to relaxing this weekend.  No big plans which is pretty exciting since nothing is expected of me.  Laughing

    Have a great weekend, everyone!

  • Madismommy719
    Madismommy719 Posts: 377
    edited July 2011

    YAY, congrats to you on no more RADS!!! :0)



    Reading about tamoxifen makes me shudder too....BUT, ive been shuddering at this whole ride. I thought the drains after my surgery were the worst thing ever and now I'm sitting here with another one now and actually draining it myself!!! I wonder if that's worthy of a "specialty" on a resume? LOL



    Thanks Wendy for passing the torch to mw while you're away....I promise to take care of your deck very well.....it won't be TOO big of a party!?!? :0) hope you are enjoying your vaca....relax a little for me too!!



    My drain is driving me bananas.....I really wish I could shower.....and my port itches.... Happy Friday to me huh? My whole family is gone this weekend....my husband tried to cancel his trip but I made him stick to it, he needed a break and deserves it....and my daughter went on an RV trip with her grandparents.....and my step son is off being young with all his buddies..... I'm going to remain in my jammies ALL weekend! :0)

  • illinoisnative
    illinoisnative Posts: 33
    edited July 2011

    I may remain in my pajamas all weekend as well!  It sounds like heaven to me...after everything.  And, my port itches, too.  Sorry about not showering.  That would kill me!!!  I barely got through the "no aluminum deotorant."  lolololol

    It's funny how you don't know what you're capable of until you're put in that position.  If someone had told me a year ago that I would have breast cancer, have to go through ultrasounds/mammograms/surgeries/ct scans/mri's/chemo/radiation/fertility treatments/genetic testing/nutritionists/social workers/etc., I would have told them they were nuts.  I've only had a broken arm in my entire life.  Now, it's a whirl wind of doctor's appointments.  I'm barely catching my breath.

    I can't even believe my life.

  • NanaA
    NanaA Posts: 97
    edited July 2011

    Illinois Native  on being a rad grad.

    Wendy TY hugs and prayers coming your way. 

    Mary I did weekly Taxol and did not lose my hair but it did thin some.  I wore caps some, but never wore a wig. 

    I was very gad to have a port since I did herceptin for a year after the 12 taxol.  Getting a port out did not involve anything but a 10 min. visit in the BS office.  They numb the spot with marcane and open the incision, losen it from where it has attached itself and pull it out, and the plastic tubing that has been in the veins or artery (whichever) come right out along with it.  BS asked if I wanted to keep it.  No way!! 

    Next Tuesday is my 3 mo checkup with Onc.  He says I can go to 6 mo.  when we get to Jan which will be the 3 yr mark .  I had the blood tests for this check up and they all look good, so hopefully everything else will be OK.  I don't have next mamogram until Dec. right before the 3 year visit in January.  I have been having some headaches but think they are sinus related.  This weather has been so unpredictable.  

    A question for you all.  I have been having some pain in my right arm when I reach and stretch for something.  I don't see any swelling but this is the arm where the 2 lymph nodes were removed.  Could this be LE or have I just pulled a muscle? 

    My 14 year old granddaughter has been detasseling corn this week in this weather.  I am sure glad it is not me.  For those of you who are city girls.  Corn stalks that are being raised for seed corn have to have the tassels cut off so the corn is not pollenated.    They start work at 5 or 6 in the morning so that they can be done before it gets too hot.  A paycheck can be a big motivator for someone that age.

    Hugs to all of you still in treatment or going for checkups.  Annette 

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited July 2011

    NanaA you were seeing your onc every 3 months for the past 3 years. This past year was only every 6 months switching off with NP as well as every 6 with BS. Basically I was seeing someone every 3 months. Starting October I will be seeing either my BS once a year as well as my onc (or NP)… basically seeing someone every 6 months now that I am about to start  year 2.

    IllinoisNative  I know what you mean… except I never broke a limb Tongue out

    Madismommy drains suck in both the good and bad way. Everyone looks forward to getting them out. I too had the no shower. BTW I couldn't feel my pits for months. I got spray deoderant because I never could put on the solid without some feeling.

    Went to a job fair today. Lots of insurance sales jobs. I did apply for a retail sales rep for Apple. I think the positions will be in Best Buys. Might be an OK job for right now till the economy picks up.  

  • Rene23
    Rene23 Posts: 290
    edited July 2011

    Illinois Native and MadisMommy - When I was on tamoxifen, I had ZERO side-effects.  Nada.  It was a walk in the park compared to the aromatse inhibitors - for me.  So don't waste too much time worrying about it until you've actually been on it for a while.  Everyone is so different when it comes to side-effects. 

    Lago, good luck with the job search.  There is a hiring open house for the new TopShop that's opening soon in Chicago - at least according to my daughter who is dying to get a job there.  I think she said it was Monday and Tuesday. 

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited July 2011
    Thanks Rene. I'll check it out. Retail is not my first choice of course but until I can find a graphic design gig I might have to settle. I thought Apple might be a good fit given my background.
  • illinoisnative
    illinoisnative Posts: 33
    edited July 2011

    Thanks, Rene!

    Do you mind if I ask you how old you were when you started Tamoxifin?  My doctor said premenopausal women have less SE on tamox.  I'm not very familiar with aromatse inhibitors.  Did you switch to those once you were in menopause?  I'm 36 and got my period back almost two months to the day after I stopped chemo so it didn't put me into menopause.

    Your experience gives me hope.  I started taking glucosamine/chondroitin as a precaution against hip/bone pain, arthritis, etc that I've heard other people have experienced while taking this...along with my Vit D, Vit C, fish oil, milk thistle, tumeric, calcium d glucarate, biotin, multi-vit...the list is endless.  Ha!

  • Madismommy719
    Madismommy719 Posts: 377
    edited July 2011

    Nana, EW on keeping the port, I would have said No Way too!!!! That's pretty awesome that your granddaughter is getting up so early to work and make money.... Most 14 year olds don't have the same motivation, especially that early in the morning!! Heck, my 19 yo stepson does nothing but whine when he has to work his 3-4 hr. shift at a local retirement home.....if it were up to him, he'd sleep all day, go out all night and his dad and I would continue supporting him forever!



    IllinoisNative.....I agree 150% with not realizing what you're capable of..... I've vowed to myself to never ever complain of a "simple mundane" life again.....I cannot wait to not have to keep a calendar of doctor appointments!!! Oh, that will be wonderful!



    I hope to sneak in a nap today....I slept horribly last night!!! I cannot get comfortable after my axillary node dissection.....it's like I just start to feel human again and here come the doctors with their scalpels!!!! I'm hoping no more surgery until my exchange....which probably won't be til 2012. Man that sounds like a long time from now.



    Happy Saturday everyone!!! I hope you all get to go out and enjoy it for me!!!

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited July 2011

    IllinoisNative I too know of someone I went to high school with that was put on Tamoxifen a few years ago and had no SE. Chemo put me in menopause and because of my age my onc felt I would stay there. She put me on an AI (aromatase inhibitor) and was monitoring me for a while to be sure I stayed in chemopause. The AIs don't work if you're not menopausal so if they put you on this they would have to chemically suppress your ovaries (more drugs) or removed them (more surgery). Tamoxifen has been around much longer. Remember you will read more about people posting bad SEs. Most women doing well don't post unless asked.

    So far I decided to keep my port. I don't want to jinx anything. My onc said she likes to keep it in for 2 years but it is my choice. I was in shock about the time when she told me.  I don't know if she means 2 years total or 2 additional years after I finish Herceptin.  For some reason I thought she meant 2 additional years. (Like I said it keeps me in contact with the mothership Tongue out)

    OK I'm off for a power walk before it rains!

  • Madismommy719
    Madismommy719 Posts: 377
    edited July 2011

    Ugh on the port for that long..... Since your onc is my onc..... I wonder if it sets off airport security?? Probably huh? Especially if it's our direct contact to the mothership!!!



    Being laid up with nothing to do could get expensive....i'm getting sucked into a few different infomercials....that "swivel store" looks interesting.... :0)

  • MaryjRN
    MaryjRN Posts: 43
    edited July 2011

    Illinois Native: that's great that radiation is OVER! We have similair thoughts: apprehension about Tamoxifin and the current whirlwind that I am calling 'my life'. In fact, I had to stop reading the Tamox forum because it was really scaring me.

    Madismommy: your statement about being able to put your 'drain care' on a resume made me ponder.  Has anyone used the BC fight/newperson/able to tackle anything etc. on a resume?

    I am 54 and premeno.  My Onc told me that I would start Tamoxifien because the other stuff is for post meno.  I will be switching over half way, he thinks.

    I went with one of my daughters to get a wig yesterday, and both DD and hairdresser made it a pleasant experience.  My daughter reminded me that the wig looks like the hairstyle I PAY to get, sleek with some bounce at the ends.  I have curly hair and I am always trying to straighten it.

    Getting last minute things ready for another daughter's shower. (I have 3)  It will be in Lombard.  There are 61 people coming.  Both bride and groom are from big families!  I remind myself that it's all good!

    Lago, hope your job search goes well!

    My port goes in 7/29.  It's not even in yet and I can't wait to get it out.Laughing

    I hope everyone has a great Saturday, be it relaxing or as busy as you want it to be!

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited July 2011
    Madismommy she didn't say I had to keep it in. I also don't know if that is for everyone. She said I could take it out but if I needed it I would have to get it put back in again. Remember I am HER2+. That means I get Herceptin which is typically given through a port. If someone should relapse and is HER2+ that means they pretty much get Herceptin for life. This might be one of the questions you ask her when you see her in a few weeks.
  • blackjack
    blackjack Posts: 771
    edited July 2011

    Happy Saturday to all. Looks like everyone here has been very busy. I too have been busy with my mom who is now home from the rehab place. Looking for home health care for mom is exhausting . But I will get it done. I hope everyone is enjoying this warm weather. I know I am....and lovin it.

    Wendy....how is my beach chair? Thinking of you sitting there and watching the ocean waves roll in....aahhhh need to post a pic for us girls here. maybe include our cabana boys too. lol Hope you are having lots of fun. I know how you love sparkles...just had pink sparkle polish put on my piggies and boy do they look sooo cute. gotta try it.

    Laura....how are you doing. Is your eye and arm getting better. I do hope so.

    Rita.. glad you had fun with your grandson. Are you spending lots of time on the water? Boating is the new life...sooo relaxing.

    Connie....how is your busy summer going? kids having fun. are they wave running yet.

    lago .. good luck on your job hunting. Hope you get the Apple job as you are so computer savvy.

    Rene....how are things going with the apt hunting for ds? any luck?

    Zap....sorry to hear about dd house. Mother nature has not be kind this year. She must be in a real bad mood. Must be PMS lol I have been reading books by Christine Lemmon. Waiting to get Portions of the Sea. Ck it out you may like them.

    Illinios Native / Madisonmommy....hope you both are doing well with your txs. remember to rest and take one day at a time. sneaking naps in are good too.

    Juliet...good news for mom. hope she is healing well. crossing fingers for your sister. hope all is b9 for her. good to see you posting again.

    To everyone else I missed I hope you all are doing well. Well I gotta run as I have a super busy weekend. My aunt turned 90 today and we are having a big family party. I hope I can live to be that age. lol Just found a new martini called antioxidant martini. It is made with berries so it must be good for us.lol  It is my new summer drink.

    Have a wonderful weekend.....remember to be healthy...be happy and enjoy life.

    BJ

  • Madismommy719
    Madismommy719 Posts: 377
    edited July 2011

    I'm definitely going to add this to my ever growing list of questions.... Although, so far my port doesn't really bother me.... And the incision is still black and blue from going in, but it isnt bothering me.... :0) I always forget about the herceptin for the HER+, that was the one test result that seemed to go in my favor! :-D

    So, when you go for a walk, do you walk the lake shore or the zoo? Aren't you in Lincoln park? Love that area!!!



    Mary, I just got my port, not bad at all!!!! Enjoy your daughters bridal shower, FUN!! When's the actual wedding? September-ish?? So, where is Elwood in comparison to Lombard? For some reason I can't place it on my IL map (in my head - LOL) Lombard is close to me, about 30 min. Directly east.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited July 2011
    That best portion of a good man's life,
    His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love.
    -- William Wordsworth
  • MaryjRN
    MaryjRN Posts: 43
    edited July 2011

    I live about 10 miles south of Joliet, I'm not far from NavyMom, and someday we will meetSmile

    The wedding is 10/14/11.  Her last day of work is 7/21/11.  She leaves (well, she was supposed to leave) 8/9/11 for Washington DC.  That is where her fiance just moved to a month ago.  he has 2 more years of school.  My BC has put schedules 'up in the air'.  I will probably start chemo the first week of August.  

    The groom is from Downers Grove, so we thought we should have the shower up in his 'neck of the woods'.  The wedding is in Manhattan, IL, reception in Joliet, and rehersal dinner will be somewhere down here.  The shower is at Buca di Beppo in Lombard.  We have heard that several of the ladies plan to make a day of it...shopping, lunch/shower, and maybe more shopping! There are not a lot of shopping options near me.  My nearest grocery store is 9 miles away, and it's 'just' a small one.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited July 2011

    Good Saturday morning to everyone.  Glad everyone at this point seems to be doing fine.  There are lots of questions and worries about ports, AI's or Tamoxifen etc.   Just glad that there are good options now  and different drugs to make the path a little easier to traverse.

    Bj, if I were there, I'd do some home care for your Mom and enjoy every minute.  I used to stay with Alzheimers' patients while their family took a break and went out to eat and relax somewhere.....or a nice shopping trip with family or friends, and though tedious at times repeating things it was great for me.  I felt wanted and needed.....that goes so far in making what you do a pleasure most of the time.

    I hope you are all going to have a great day.  Hope it lasts ( so far it all has ) but I'm down to 167 so have most of my wt. off now.  Some people would tell me to stop but I heed another 12 to 15 #'s gone because I'm still overwt.  Just have long bones and ht. that helps it not to show much, but it is there.  Can't food Mother Nature or the person stepping on the scale. 

    Hope you all have a good Saturday.....hydrate-hydrate-hydrate.  Even if it is not so bad.....dire heat predictions are turning up so get a head start. 

    I'll be checking in later.

    Hugs, Jackie

  • Madismommy719
    Madismommy719 Posts: 377
    edited July 2011

    Mary, there is more shopping in that area than anyone could cover in a day!!! Sounds like tons of fun....and that restaurant is excellent!!

    I know right where Joliet and channahon are, I have a really good friend in Mazon. I think thats kind of close?

    I start my chemo right around that same time as you also, and feel like my family's plans and lives are all up in the air also.... Dang BC!!! :(

  • illinoisnative
    illinoisnative Posts: 33
    edited July 2011

    Lago - thanks!  My issue is I went through fertility treatments (I have two embryos).  My doctor told me I had to be on tamox for min. of 2 years before I could be implanted.  Now, I'm BRCA 2 positive so my ovaries have to go anyway (found out I had the gene after fertility treatments and I happen to be the forth in history who is first generation meaning both my mom and dad tested negative).  My BS told me I wouldn't need my ovaries out until I was done having kids.  Then he would immediately go in and get them.  That means I would be on tamox for those two years since I wouldn't be in menopause before that, right?  I didn't ask him if I had to go on AI's after that or not.  Another question.  LOL!

    Blackjack, thanks for your kind words.  I'm still sneaking in naps since radiation.  I can't seem to get enough sleep.

    MaryjRN, I also had to stop reading the tamox threads.  I was feeling good about the drug until those forums.  Heh.  Good news about the wig.  I loved mine.  My hair resembles an afro in humidity.  I was constantly blow drying it with round brush, flat ironing it, spraying it...now with the wig, I cut down on most of my time getting ready.  I'm out the door in 20 minutes.  Love it.

    Madismommy, I hope chemo goes well for you.  I pretty much breezed through it.  The fear of the unknown was so much worse than anything I experienced.  I wish the same for you.

    IllinoisLady, I was told the heat helps hair grow.  I'm tempted to turn of the air and stick my head out a window. Laughing

  • Rene23
    Rene23 Posts: 290
    edited July 2011

    Illinois Native - I was 44 and still mentruating when diagnosed.  I think I only had maybe one menses after chemo and starting Tamoxifen.  Didn't miss them!  But I had a history highly suggestive of endometriosis and likely adenomyosis, so I opted for a hysterectomy/oopherectomy after about 1.5 years on Tamoxifen.  I wanted to avoid endometrial biopsies (which my biased perspective saw a lot of because I work in a gyne office), and wanted to be on AI's - as well as getting rid of my uterus and ovaries which, aside from giving me 2 great kids, had caused a lot of pain throughout my life.  Even if  br. cancer had never entered my life, those organs were on my hit list!  LOL.  As it turned out, removing them did confirm that I had extensive endo and adeno, which wasn't a surprise, but was a relief. 

    The joint aches and pains on AI's is not fun, but I will say that as I'm approaching my 5 year mark of being on them, I'm starting to get a little nervous about losing that umbrella of perceived protection you have while being on them.  I switched from Aromasin to Femara about 10 months in, and while I do still have the pains, they are definitely liveable.  If I exercised more, I wonder if I'd even notice them.  They are definitely worse when I'm sedentary for any length of time.  

    What a compllicated fertility issue you have.  Glad to hear you have 2 successful embryos.  Is surrogacy an option for them?  Or even necessary?  It's all so complicated.  I do know 2 close friends who were part of very successful surrogacy - one as a surrogate, and one who used a surrogate (not for each other).  Both ended up with twins, successfully and suprisingly. :)

    Bj - DS is still chasing grizzly bears out west with the DH.  No apartment hunting until he gets back.  

    MaryjRN - That's a huge shower!  I can only imagine how long it will take to open all those gifts.  At least you'll have lots of good food to munch on while you're waiting.  I ate at that Buca di Beppo just a few weeks ago with my DD.  Yum!

  • illinoisnative
    illinoisnative Posts: 33
    edited July 2011

    Thanks for sharing your history with me, Rene.  I'm sorry about problems and pain you've endured!   If you don't mind, what symptoms did you have that made you think it was endometriosis?  Heavy periods, intense cramps?   I've never had any issues so it's a struggle for me knowing they have to come out.  They did tell me I could have my ovaries removed and still carry the babies as long as I had my uterus.   Going through fertility treatments, which provided me with daily internal ultrasounds for two days and extensive pregnancy bloodwork, assured me that everything was working correctly and better than expected.  Only one small fibroid.  I think they said my ovarian age was great.  Which was a relief.  They retrieved ten eggs and two were successful when fertilized.  They told me more would have been successful had I been younger.  I only had once cycle to get the eggs I needed before I had to have chemo. 

    My BS said women who get pregnant after bc do rather well...no increased risk which runs counter to the fact that my estrogen would be higher and I'm er+.  While undergoing fertility treatments, I had to take Femara to keep my estrogen lowered due to bc.  It was a much HIGHER dose than what is given to women to prevent a reoccurance.  I did very well on that with minimal to no side effects despite the strengh so that gives me hope.

    Surrogacy is probably an option aside from expense...and the fact that I would like to carry them myself - no guarantee they will take.  I was hoping my period would come back (which it did) in case the embryos didn't take.  That's why I was worried about Tamoxifin putting me in premature menopause.  I'm only 36.  Had I known I would get this dreaded disease, I would have had children long before now.  I guess I always thought I'd have time.  Hindsight is always 20/20.

    Thanks again for your imput.Smile

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited July 2011
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  • zap
    zap Posts: 1,850
    edited July 2011

    This is a "glorious post" as I spent a glorious weekend in Wisconsin with old friends on Pike Lake. It was boating and hiking and eating and a campfire and all the joys of being with old  friends.  I do want you to know that several  times during this weekend,  I referred to what I call my "blog friends" and that would be you ladies.  You have become a part of my life.  YOU are a real presence in my life as I travel to such adventures and meet up with people grappling with their own concerns. Rita, we were on a pontoon boat as this is small lake.  I loved it and thought of you and your grandson.....no wonder you were in your own glory.

    Love and prayers to all.

    Susan

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited July 2011

    Susan....isn't it pure delight when you go somewhere knowing you will more than likely have a pretty good time and it is near perfection.  As I remember times past when I could have used your words and probably did....I am happy for you.  We do sometimes have to go through the pits....but it is times like you just had that make it all worthwhile.  Thank you for sharing and giving me a reason to look back at some of my glorious times. 

    Speaking of not so glorious but ok.....I just got done giving three dog baths.  Minnie and Teeny have short hair so it is not too much of an issue, but Baby Boss's cut has grown out so I needed the hair dryer and brush for him.  He has been a much better happier camper.  I use FleaBusters soap which is a really good soap and it keeps them going when I don't have the little vials of flea control meds.

    Well, got two dogs ( they decided not to hate me after all ) trying to get in my lap at the same time.  Hope you all had a wonderful day and stayed cool.

    Hugs, Jackie 

  • WendyTY
    WendyTY Posts: 94
    edited July 2011

    Hey Girls! Hope the weekend wasn't to hot for you. I didn't venture out much in the day. I love my air conditioning too much. I'm still sleeping a lot during the day. Things seem to be calming down. I'm waiting for 10pm to take my last dose of meds for the night. Off tomorrow morning early for radiation, doctor's appointment, and Herceptin.



    I've become quite the night owl. Hoping they will reduce the steroids tomorrow so I can get back to a more realistic schedule. Although I did have fun shopping at Kohl's still 11pm last night. Had a 30% coupon with Kohl's cash burning a hole in my pocket. Never thought I'd be a late shopper. Oh the fun unexpected experiences bc can bring to our lives.



    Just wanted to say hi and thank everyone for your kindness. As long as we ban together, we will remain strong. Keep your chins up and be thankful for what we have!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited July 2011

    "The doors we open and close each day decide the lives we live."

     

    Flora Whittemore

  • Madismommy719
    Madismommy719 Posts: 377
    edited July 2011

    Happy Monday lovely IL ladies..... My BS just called with my path report from my AND....



    NEGATIVE!!!! All of them were clean......I'm SO relieved!!!! Now I just want to lose the drain and it's a glorious day!!!!!! :0)



    Stay cool everyone, it's gonna be a scorcher!!!