Illinois ladies facing bc
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Love the quote Jackie!!
Good morning... After a rough day/evening.. feeling a lot better.. slight nausea but otherwise all good!! Yay!! Lazy day planned today.. excercise.. make lunch.. read.. Not comfortable driving the way I feel for now.. will give it a week first to see..
Thanks for the books.. already added to my Kindle List on Amazon!!!
Hope you all enjoy the nice day.. so far not hot yet!!
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Sorry....first quote ( I've used that source often before ) had the dreaded marks. Fears, well, most of them end up far bigger than the actual event causing such upheaval and distress. Hang on for the ride Mad though it sounds like such poor advice. All fears are true ones......but I don't think any of them in the end are bigger than us. I think I mentioned....first chemo for me...I think I sat very rigid possibly waiting for my arm with I.V. infusion to blow up, turn orange, or for some other instant life threatning event to take place.
Down deep inside I think we may still -- to an extent -- see this disease as a killer. It is not. We still fear the consequences of treatment and how it will go....well, it 'almost' always go far better than our imagined perceptions. Yes, some things seem unchangeable....we do lose our hair, get tired and sometimes sick.......but all these things have a solution. They also go away. You will have to give up some time in your life ( whatever your Oncologist has prescribed as tx ) to get your health straightened out. Mine was 6 mos. of tx. A long time it seemed.....but then I had already lived for 61 years. 6 months up against that didn't seem like so much to ask.
You struggle and you have maybe some really bad days. I did.....there were a few days ( not too many ) where I said silent prayers to just make it through the next ten minutes -- but oh the great satisfaction of feeling my strength when I did that. You are so much bigger and better than your diagnosis.
Mad....you can do this. I am touched by your candor about how you see these upcoming events and believe me, I was quite a bonafide chicken-hearted person and was getting all txs and operations etc. 75 miles away from home --- meaning a nice long ride for dread and fear, but I quickly came to see that I needed to let go of that negativism and focus on the fact of doing something positive to restore my good health.....which was in fact NOT going to be restored in any other way.
We are mountain climbers and you too, in a few short months will stand on the summit and be proud of yourself.....seeing, feeling, and knowing how far you have come -- what you accomplished and that you challenged and became so much bigger than your dread and fear. Much bigger than you ever thought you could be. Sometimes, you have to give into what makes you afraid and see that maybe it may not be quite as big as you. You have a built in advantage...you have tools to fight with and other people to help you. You can do this....because we will be right here.....like so many others were for us. What you face alone can be huge and menacing --- but we are here .
You are moving ahead friend.
Lago....the Lemonade powder sounds so good. I love cranberry anything. I think it would be the "sweetener" in it I'd have to watch out for....unless it was regular sugar. In many of the powders....even Chrystal Light, aspartame is used and I react to that. I get Berry Lemonade at Wendy's as they say it is real Lemonade and is sweetened with real sugar. Not too often, but a nice treat once in a while.
Susan....sure would have loved to do that seminar with you. I am easily fascinated by the "ticking" things that life presents.
Hope you all have a fantastic day.
Hugs, Jackie
apology for being a little long winded today....I think.
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Jackie...thanks so much for the kind words and encouragement!!!!! It helps me so much to sit here and read them and know I can get through this next leg.... As my DD says "things could be worse mommy, you could lose an arm instead of your hair. Arms don't grow back". I love her so much! Reason #1 why I'm going to make it through my chemo!!!!
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I know it's not the nutrasweet or I would be covered in rash years ago
Granted I've cut down but I used to have a Dr. Pepper every day since 1983 before chemo. I have had issues with artificial lemonades before. Usually a sore throat though. 0 -
Mary, I do not think Indian people in general view cancer as something individuals are responsible for bringing on themselves. I believe her religion believed she brought on bad karma. I do not know her religion. Many doctors are Indian men and women, so it is doubtful that Indians would believe this. In her case, my heart just went out to her.
Going for the shingle vaccine now. It takes me awhile, but I do chisel away at the list of things to do. Oh, and the headlight got fixed. Now for the dreaded mri.
Have a good day......Mak, hope you are feeling better.
Big shout out to Wendyty!
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Makmak... hope that you are feeling better today. Is Gemzar an every day event for 3 weeks straight? Then one week off. Gosh, that would keep you busy! Sure hope that you can avoid the Decadron. I did not get along with that stuff either.
MDG... official welcome to Illinois. I think you will make new friends fast and add them to your friends in Detroit. Alot of us here in the Fox Valley who can help.
Lago... I should have mentioned the skirt/dress issue with TSA. I no longer wear short or long skirts through security anymore. I got singled out once along with a lady wearing a sari behind me. They took us down to a private room to lift up our skirts.
Only pants for me! Have fun at the Cape!Madismommy... I got pretty worked up prior to my first chemo treatment also. I took off on a long bike ride all by myself the day prior to my first treatment and even considered NOT ever doing chemo. The fact was.... I was feeling great and just a bit terrified of what was going to happen. Well, I came back around and the first treatment was rather anti-climatic... well other than my initial reaction to Taxotere which they were able to control. The chemo nurses watch you VERY close on your first treatment so they can make any adjustments to keep it comfortable for you. Take along some snacks, an IPod and a laptop or book and take advantage of some forced down time in the lounger. Sounds like you DD will keep you looking on the "bright side". What a sweetheart!
I hope that everyone can find time to get out and enjoy this beautiful weather we are having again today. I have another session with my LE PT this afternoon. She gave me lesson in LE wrappings the other day so that I could try doing them on my own. I suppose I will get "graded" today when she sees me. Fortunately, I found a good YouTube video to watch while I do it, so hopefully I got it right.
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Joan.. God NO.. it's ONCE every week for three weeks.. then a week off.. Off to research Decadron and Why in the world they are giving it to me.. anyone has a good answer?? please share..
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I took decadron the night before, day of and day after chemo. For me it helped keep the fluid retention down. As soon as I got off it I put on 5-8 lbs. It's also to keep away some of the allergic reactions. Some people get hyper on it and have trouble sleeping. I did not have those issues.
They should be telling you why you need this.
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Hi Marina, not posting much, but thinking of you every day, and hoping thiat the Gemzar kicks cancer's butt for you! It did for another friend of mine, so hoping the same for you, and with minimal se's. Did you not have Decadron with your previous chemo? Most oncs give it before chemo as it tends to help prevent nausea, and keep up a feeling of well being so that we can tolerate the chemo. I had lots of trouble sleeping from the Decadron, and acne reappeared at 61, so I was not a happy camper, but my onc thought it best to continue at same dose so I did. My DH asked my onc if she could make the dose smaller, and she said "sure, but then it won't work!" Anesthesia usually gives a dose of Decadron before you wake up from surgery too, because it allows us to have less nausea, and get on our feet sooner because you feel better. If you got an itemized bill from surgery, you would see ot on there. I know, you didn't have surgery, but for those who did. Talk to your onc about it, and he may be willing to let you try without it, or reduce the dose.
Welcome to all the new ladies, and hoping to meet some of you at our next gathering. I haven't posted much lately, but do make most of our lunches and dinners. This is a wonderful group of women, and you will always get support and hugs here, along with help in problem solving during tx.
Wendy, I never have a chance to check the temperature on my deck before the flash mob of mosquitoes gets me! They are something fierce this year, and I guess the only ghood thing about fall arriving will be their disappearance. Some yellow leaves on the maple tree already. Yikes!
WendyTY, thinking of you daily too, and glad for the chemo break.
Lago, eat some lobster for me please! Vacationed at the Cape once and loved it, and many times on Block Island where we ate lobster almost every day. So good! Meanwhile, hoping you get some answers for your rash when you return. It's always something, isn't it? By the way, I agree with others about the job...I think you're doing the right thing by holding out for what is better for you.
Have to get my DH to the airport, so I'll catch up more later.
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Well just talked to the pharmacy at my Center... Yes the Decadron is to prevent nausea but it may also be causing the nausea.. So I will be trying without it next week!!! It's tolerable but will substitute a different anti-nausea med for the Zofran and hope that helps!!! It's just an adjustment period and I'm sure once I get it figured out it'll be smoother.. Of course a clean scan in a few months will make it all worth while as well
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Hi IL Ladies: I've only posted sporadically, but wanted to pop on and thank you so much, Jackie, for your wise words above to MadisMommy. My Mom is set to begin Chemo next month and it will help me greatly in soothing her fears as well. She is scheduled for surgery at NW with Drs. Bethke & Fine next Thursday. I am over 3 weeks post my uni-Mx and am feeling really good except when I have to wrangle my 2 yo! I had solid help up until this week, but thankfully school starts next week and he'll go to a sitter PT so I can work some.
Madismommy-your DD is so sweet and so right! We watched Soul Surfer the weekend after my Mx and it does give you some new perspective. Thinking about you as you begin this part of your treatment. The only thing I've been telling my Mom is that she's got to start in order to finish it... Is your PS in the burbs or do you have to travel?
Smerf-interesting about the Decadron. My Mom is terrified of having to take it. She's had horrible reactions to steroids before and her MO at NW was noncommittal about reducing the dose.
Lago-I'm so envious of your Cape trip and seafood ops!
Welcome MDG, I'm in the FV area too.
Makmak-glad you're feeling better today. A friend said Moonpies and Movie Stars was good. I like anything by Kristin Hannah too.
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Calico1....so glad something I said helped Mad and you too. It is why I stay here after all this time, along with the biggest group of wonderful women anywhere. Having gotten my diagnosis, I had to move way out of my comfort zone and this blog is the first one I ever posted to and used. Can't tell you how long I went not able to figure out why sometimes I could see avatars and sometimes not.....anyway......my treasure became the friends I have come to love and respect here and I thank the universe everyday that they took me in....no questions asked --- so I stay hoping now and then to be of some use to someone else and lighten the path for them just like it was for me.
Hope you all have a great evening. See you in the sunshine tomorrow.
Hugs, Jackie
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Poppin' in to say HELLO...wow...you girls are chatty!
Have been quite grumpy lately...HEAD SWEATS ARE HORRIBLE! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
Hope you're having a nice evening...I'll be back tomorrow morning to catch up with you girls.
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Lol....I love "whiskey tango foxtrot" it makes me smile!!!!
I got one of my alter ego wigs today....my daughter and I had tears streaming down our faces with laughter. It needs a haircut and it might be cute. I think because it's SO different from me that it's really bizarre....we both had it on....my DH started singing Tina Turner when he saw me....HA HA!!
My daughter named it Grant.....LOL.... Says I look like Taylor Swift's guitar player....who's a BOY with punk rocker hair!!!! Too funny.....
Calico, my PS is in the burbs, out of Edwards hospital and Rush Copley. I went today for a fill and he said I didn't need one!!!! That he wants to let me settle for awhile and decide on if I want about 25-40 cc's more and than be DONE til after chemo and my exchange!!!! YAY!!!!
so, no extra pain for me tonight!!!
Mak...one of my prescriptions from Rush is decadron....2 night before chemo....2 day of....2 night of.... It's a steroid right?? I just went and dropped off my scripts tonight, UGH!!!
Hope everyone's doing well!!!!
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Morning! 60 on my deck and a bit cloudy, rain tomorrow afternoon and evening, or so they say.
MadJenn....Grant???? I love it! Gotta have some fun with all of this...and no fill? Yay!
Calico1....Jackie is very wise! Glad you are sharing her insights with your Mom. We keep telling her to write a book!
Smerf....I have a wireless transmitter for the temps which is out on the deck...I don't actually go out there at 5:30am! I would scare the Mosquitos AND the cute wildlife away!
Steroids....I took them day before, had it in my IV, took it that night, day after. Was warned to take it before 5pm tho and never had any trouble sleeping. Did feel pretty good while on it actually...
Laura.....my nite sweats have become horrible last few days, esp. Head and chest, so much that I get up and change jammies nightly and last night I had to get another pillow as mine was wet on both sides. I so am not a happy camper. Hope yours gets better soon...not fun!
Those of you who have a Kindle...I THINK I saw something on TV that in Sept. They will have either new software or a new model so you can download library books too for free. Or maybe you already have this now??? I only caught the last 45 seconds of the news byte on this.
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Ummmm......did I say something about sunshine this a.m. Well, the sunshine came gushing down in torrents. Didn't last too long....wonder if its a drive-by storm of sorts. Today is opening day of the Balloon Fest. We are supposed to be dry this afternoon. That would be a good thing.
Pondering this sweats thing and wondering why ??? Hope it gets better soon.
Jenn.....glad some laughs are out there for you -- you may surprise yourself and be ok with no hair. I could not manage that, but saw a lot of others who did it well. If you choose to do some scarfs ( I had some pre-tied ones ) remember larger earrings drag the eye there....so people sort of miss other aspects. Little things like make-up....it all goes to give you a great look and a fairly healthy one for what is going on. You will I think get a steroid blush too which tends to give you a very healthy glow.
Well, I'm off and running......my day at the Shelter so it will be a well-filled up day and evening. See you all later.
Hugs, Jackie
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Beautiful, sunny day, and do we ever deserve it!
Wendy, I am usually not out on the deck before 8AM at the earliest, but the little blood suckers are there at all times of day this year. Even worse out in the yard, where I am trying to cut down on the number of buckthorns. Didn't Laura work on this problem last year? They really take over if you don't stay on top of it.
Are these night sweats related to our stage of life? And no hormones allowed now. Black cohosh I think, recommended to me by my gyn, but I did not have the problem. At least I had good luck somewhere along the way.
Joan...lift up your skirt???? Another good reason I always wear pants. Never thought about that one before. Peeping TSA's!
Marina, hope it works for you next week. I hate side effects of Decadron, but did not want to find out how much worse Adriamycin might be, so I had it IV before each tx. Most of all, I hope the Gemzar kicks butt, and gives you those scans we're all hoping for you.
Jackie, loved the quote today.
Have to go think about dinner, so I'll play some more catch up later.
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Question to ladies on arimidex:
I started arimidex after chemo and rads, so six months after the dx. I was thinking that I would stop this pill (that I have grown to love) in March 2012 as that would be five years. Unless I screwed up, my prescription is over as this is now my five year dx. I called to refill and was told the prescription has expired and they would call the doctor to see f it can be renewed. Obviously I need to call my oncologist, but I was wondering if you had some idea on when arimidex actually is stopped. This is actually a stress for me as I worried that I would have to go off this pill in March 2012,,,,and now I may be doing that sooner (6 months short of five years). Thanks!
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Hi Zap,
I'm not on Arimidex, so I have not followed the current dosing, but most oncs count the time from the date of dx, not the date we finished tx. So dx in August 2006, five years would be this August of 2011. I know there have been studies to determine if there would be benefits in staying on longer than five years, but I don't know if that has been changed yet. Of course, call your onc to be sure. You may get an answer sooner from the pharmacy, but I would still call my onc Monday.
That was so interesting about the Indian culture. I have many Indian doctor friends, and I don't think they feel that way about cancer. I suppose the science outweighs the culture and/or religion.
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Thanks Smerf! I called the pharmacy and they said they were waiting on a refill from the doctor. That has never happened before, so maybe it is five years from the dx. I will call the doctor on Monday. Not ready for this!
I agree. I do not think this karma belief has anything to to do with being an Indian....it has to do with her religigios belief.
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Morning! Running late but 69 on the deck. Cloudy and humid, no breeze. I can hear the bugs...really creepy!
Susan...you take arimidex for 5 years. Not related to your dx date. I started 8/1/2007 and I will take my last one 7/31/2012. I asked my onc when I saw him a few weeks ago about taking it longer but he said the research isn't there yet so unless something changes it's still 5 years of taking the AI.
Smerf....it may be age related these nite sweats but it's strange that after being in menopause for 6.5 years and on arimidex for 4 years they have gotten much worse, but not every night. Last night...nothing. But then we had the AC on...so I'm thinking it's more the humidity that sets mine off. Black Cohash mimics estrogen so my onc for me said no. I did take this years before my dx, off and on for 3 years as I went thru peri-menopause. It worked very well but now of course I wonder if that triggered my bc???? Don't know and too late now anyway. Interesting tho...DH has been getting up to change his tshirt too but not last night with the AC. And I was fine on vacay with the hotel AC so I'm going with the weather as the culprit.
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Quick hello from the cape. Having fun. Today getting together with a childhood friend and a friend for high school (also a 2x breast cancer survivor). Tonight I see my best friend for high school. So excited.
I'm still doing my power walks.
Zap my NP had me wait till March 1st (rather than the week before) to start Anastrozole so we would know exactly when the 5 years is up. Yes it is 5 years from the time you started it. I have one more refill then they have to call the doctor. I think it has something to do with how many refills they can prescribe at one time.
Mak how you doing?
Waves @ smurf. Long time no see
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Lago, sounds like it's going to be a wonderful day!!! Enjoy catching up with your friends!

Wendyk....glad you didn't have night sweats last night, sounds horrible.... Not being able to sleep comfortably is the worst!!
Happy Saturday everyone....my daughter had a friend spend the night so we were up late and than they're up and about again running around, oh the energy!!!! If I could bottle it and sell it....0 -
Be Thankful For...
by Author UnknownBe thankful that you don't already have everything you desire,
If you did, what would there be to look forward to?
Be thankful when you don't know something
For it gives you the opportunity to learn.
Be thankful for the difficult times.
During those times you grow.
Be thankful for your limitations
Because they give you opportunities for improvement.
Be thankful for each new challenge
Because it will build your strength and character.
Be thankful for your mistakes
They will teach you valuable lessons.
Be thankful when you're tired and weary
Because it means you've made a difference.
It is easy to be thankful for the good things.
A life of rich fulfillment comes to those who are
also thankful for the setbacks.
GRATITUDE can turn a negative into a positive.
Find a way to be thankful for your troubles
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Good Morning,
Are any of you taking Reclast for osteopenia? My onc wants me to take via IV form, twice a year.
Regardng Arimidex - I was told 5 years from the date I start taking it. Breast surgeon told me that they are starting to extend for two more years. I will see him next month so will ask again. Will ask the onc as well.
Hope you all have a great weekend. I am going to Ravinia tonight so hoping for no rain.
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JMHO Char, but I would want to know how strong my chances were of the Osteopenia actually changing into Osteoporosis. I think I understood my M. Oncologist to say that people ( that would be anyone ) can have Osteopenia for years and it may not get better, but does not get worse. In some cases if you were very diligent you might see some improvement. That being the case.....is this your first bone density ? If so, you might want to ask if you can wait for a while and then have another test....to measure any changes. That would then I think give you the correct information or help you to decide if you wanted to use a drug like Reclast. I'm not against taking anything.....just would want to be absolutely certain that I needed it and be comfortable with that.
I chose to wait myself......if I have Osteopenia and it is in the holding state, then I don't want to jump on it with a drug that is not necessary for right now. You sound like you do have some information on things. I think Rene' here takes something. Zometa which I think is
Reclast.Enjoy Ravinia.
Hugs, Jackie
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Right, Wendy. I found the study that still calls for 5 years of Arimidex. I also met someone who was resistant to taking it, and so she started a full year after her txs ended, when her onc finally persuaded her to do it.So it was almost two years after her dx. Some women switch from Tamoxifen to Arimidex, but they are usually younger at dx since tamoxifen is more often used for premenopausal women. Being triple negative they have no benefits for me, and my onc said many triple negs get pretty nervous about that. I try not to think about it, because it is something I can't change.
Hi right back to you, Lago. Haven't posted much, but did see you at lunch, and you looked great as usual. If you are just starting chemo anyone, Lago rocked the scarf!
Doctors can only write scripts for one year ahead at most. Like, I'm on Lipitor, and she gives me 12 refills, and then I have to see her again. It is just a way of getting us in to see our doctors, and being reevaluated to be sure the same drug is still appropriate. If you get a script to be filled say three times as necessary, you must do it within the one year limitation, or get a new one from your doc.
Jackie, I love the reminder about gratitude. I work on that one all the time. Life feels so much better when I concentrate on what I have, and not what I don't have!
Wendy and BJ, my nephew's daughter had a 15,000 platelet count! Only 16 months old, and so scary. They have decided it's idiopathic, and leukemia is ruled out. Wearing a helmet for fear of hitting her head, and actually kind of liking her new hat. Had any experience with this?
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Hi gals!
I'm having a hard time keeping up with all of you.
On the Arimidex issue....you do need to actually take the pill for five years. I have to keep taking it until August of next year because my treatment plan ran a little longer than the AC that was more common at the time of my diagnosis. I really have mixed reactions about getting off of it.
I'm off tomorrow for my babysitting trip to Mississippi. I'm still dreading the drive but I got a few books on CD's to take with me and the highlight of the drive is that I'm pulling off in Centralia for a driving break and breakfast with Jackie in the morning. I can hardly wait to see her again! Then it's back in the car for me and I'll have to invent my stops randomly as I travel onward.
I should have plenty of time once I get the two older ones off to school and the little one down for his naps to keep up and get caught up on here.
I hope everyone is doing well. Hugs to both makmak and WendyTY and anyone else who's facing more treatments or radiation. My thoughts are always with you.
I'm off to finish packing!
Rita
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Hi Everyone -- Just popping in to say hello. WendyTY -- I hope you are feeling stronger every day. Makmak -- I haven't posted in awhile, so sorry this is so late..... really stinks that you have to be back in treatment again, hopefully the treatment will work it's magic and you'll be back to clean scans in no time!
I'm enjoying the last lazy weekend of summer... next weekend soccer is back in season, and we will be back to 2 or 3 games every weekend. My daughter may not be the most talented one on the field, but she sure is the happiest, always smiling on the field, so while I complain about how busy we are it's fun.
My older daughter just moved on from her tumble and trampoline team to a competitive cheer team. She has been on the tumble and tramp team for years and years, felt bad saying goodbye to everyone, they have been so nice to me throughout this past year of treatment, offered to do a fundraiser if we needed it, sent cards, etc I will really miss them. But of course, there is always one person who treats you like you are contagious, isn't there? I said hello to her (I know her from the team, and from our neighborhood, been to her home many times, kids used to play together all the time..). and she looked like she was going to run in the other direction, couldn't get away from me fast enough. Oh well, guess this diagnosis really does help you figure out who really cares about you enough to overcome their natural discomfort.
Boston, must be the place to go this year... my trip is in about one month, seeing the family, getting in a few last sails before my brother puts the boat away for the winter. Of course, my brother lives right next door to Salem MA, and we are going in October, so it's a real hoot, Halloween on steroids! And we'll be through with the allergy testing for my daughters by then.... really really bad shellfish allergy in the family, have had to call 911 on my husband before, so no steamers for the girls until they get the all-clear from the testing.
In addition to all of the seafood, there will definitely be a stop in the North End for cannolis. Mike's Pastry here we come!
Just started tamoxifen this week... so far no side effects, hopefully it stays that way.
Hope everyone enjoys the weekend, and stays dry, it is pouring here in Downers!
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