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  • valerie0118
    valerie0118 Posts: 60
    edited April 2012

    Thank you all for your well wishes and prayers.  My surgery was on 4/19 and I was released from the hospital on 4/21 and glad to get home!  My nodes were clear!  He only took two of them and said both were clear so now we are waiting on pathology report.  All seems to be going smoothly but these drains are a major pain.  My exit site is red and itchy.  The PA removed the tape yesterday around it during my first post-op.  She thought I might be allergic to it.  Now the itching has quieted but it is still the most tender spot I have.  I changed the bra out for the cami they gave me thinking that maybe the end of the bra was rolling up and irritating it.  This seems to be working along with some extra gauze for padding.  It isn't draining there or looking infected.....just sore.  I'm supposed to keep both drains at least until Monday.

    Edward Hospital was great....not that this is something that I would wish on anyone but they kept me moving along and were very concerned and caring.  I was pretty impressed and glad I chose to go there.  The pre-op procedures were nerve racking and I kind of lost it when they did the sentinal node injections....I don't think it hurt that bad but it just was such a loss of my control.  I sobbed and sobbed and had a hard time getting back in control.  I am really glad I didn't decline the valium.....I could have probably used two, lol.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2012

    Welcome Karen ---- the doors here are always open and there is always room for someone else.  Hate that it is that way, but everyone here wants nothing more than to help you on this trip you never wanted to take. 

    There is a lot of knowledgeable women here who will help you find answers if they don't have them already there for you.  Everything tends to be upsetting in the beginning, but there is a great deal of strength in numbers...and no one here is willing to let you walk thru this journey alone.  This is a journey with plenty of emotions, so whatever you are feeling, upset, confused, angry, sad.....this is a great place to let it all go.  We all have many times over. 

    Wishin.....this sure sounds like the start of something good......maybe a curly-headed blond....well, maybe not quite that light......my hair came in just like it always was.....thin, fine, straight as a string and mousy brown.....however, it took two or three weeks for the pigment to penetrate to the tips of my hair or something because I was as gray as it was possible to be at first.  Whew....if I had to "get" my "normal" hair back right away....at least the color came back too.

    I'll see you all in the morning.  It's 9:30 and I am tired enough to lose all semblance of reason any time now.  See you.

    Hugs, Jackie

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited April 2012

    (((waving))) wishn4one Looks like the hair is about to start. I never noticed the "white fuzz" time because I didn't check my hair at first assuming I wasn't going to see anything for many weeks PFC. I was wrong. I think it started before chemo ended. Anyway mine initially came back black and gray. Even my eyebrows turned black (I'm a brunette… not black). It had a bit more wave but didn't come back curly. The texture was furlike too. 1 year PFC my hair is back to normal texture, probably color to but I dye it so I have no idea.

    valerie I had my drains for a week. They are a PITA. You'll be much more comfortable when they are gone. Sentinel node injections where weird. They did some lydercaine shots first to numb me but it was still strange to let someone  stick needles around your areola. We all had moments of breakdown… out of character for most of us too.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2012
    You don't have the power to make life "fair," 
    but you do have the power to make life joyful.
    - Jonathan Lockwood Huie
  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2012

    Good morning everyone.......going to be pretty nice here......about 86 they say.  I think a totally summer day is on the menu......but will be cooler after that....more normal.  So far....a spring full of surprises.....hope you all have a gorgeous day.

    Hugs, Jackie

  • mdg
    mdg Posts: 1,468
    edited April 2012

    Just wanted to welcome all our new friends to the group!  I joined this IL group after moving here in August.  What a great group of gals to hang with!!!  Glad you found us!

  • wishn4one
    wishn4one Posts: 10
    edited April 2012

    Thank you all for the warm welcome.  Wish we were meeting under better circumstances.  Today is my 8th rad treatment.  Does anyone else here go to NW Community Hospital in Arlington Heights for Rad or other treatment?  I did my chemo over at Alexian Bros in Elk Grove Village and they were terrific over there. 

     Hugs to all!

    Mary

  • hopefulhealing
    hopefulhealing Posts: 581
    edited April 2012

    Ladies,

    I would like to ask you all something. I am currently working on a documentary related specifically to the emotional journey a woman goes through when they have had a mastectomy.  The videographer teaches at Northern and is wonderful.  He has produced and directed award winning documentaries.  I am working on this with another woman and dear friend who also had a mastectomy.

    We are looking for women who would be willing to be on camera and share the emotional journey including all the raw stuff.  We feel there is a huge gap and need related to the EMOTIONAL journey we who have mastectomies undergo.  We are hoping to shoot again in June or July.  We have already filmed three women. 

    Women who are totally through the journey and doing well emotionally, women in the beginning or end etc.  Also women who chose not to have reconstruction. 

    And we would like this to be a documentary that has a diverse population.  So young, older, Hispanic, Asian, African American etc. 

    Please PM me if you would be willing to be a part of this project.  We hope to be able to have women see this before and after their surgeries so they know what to expect.  Because we all know there are VERY few physicians that go into this.  We also see it as a tool to educate those in the health professions. 

    I hope some  of you will want to be a part of this effort.

    Thanks

  • joan888
    joan888 Posts: 711
    edited April 2012

    hopeful.... hmmm, let me think on that one.

    Welcome to more new ladies. You will find alot of comfort here.

    I am really feeling that I have turned a corner as far as recovery from lat flap surgery.  It's been two weeks ago today.  Have lots of energy and getting in my daily walks really helps.  I can't wait to see my PS tomorrow morning and hopefully get rid of one more drain.  I have given up all hope of getting rid of the last one in my back any time soon.

    My PS shared this link on his FB page today and I found it interesting.  Too late for us, but perhaps benefits to our daughters in the future. 

    http://www.surgery.org/consumers/plastic-surgery-news-briefs/research-development-cancer-fighting-breast-implants-1036439 

  • invisible2
    invisible2 Posts: 70
    edited August 2012

    I read this thread daily but have not been able to contribute much.  I am getting closer to a surgical plan but don't have anything set yet.  I have spent the last few days wallowing in self-pity and doubt.  In short; I'm a mess.  I used to be a calm, confident, intellectual, professional woman but yet I've been reduced to an indecisive, self-absorbed, blubbering mess.  I feel victimized by my own body.  My DH and Lago have taken the full brunt of my emotions.  I bless and thank them both for their patience and understanding.  I am such a private person but this thing called cancer has turned my entire world upside down.  Geez, they're just breasts.  I need to buck up. 

  • ritajean
    ritajean Posts: 4,042
    edited April 2012

    Welcome, Karen!  I'm another one that started crying when I entered the wig shop.  The nice lady in the shop told me to come back with a friend and I'd find it much easier.  :-)  I got so tired of people telling me that's "it's only hair!"  Well, yes, it's only hair but it isn't THEIR hair!  So many of us have been right where you are now.  It is temporary but it's still hard to deal with!  As it turned out for me, I got really lucky.  I was given CMF chemo and did not lose all my hair as I thought I would.

    Joan, so glad that things are looking up for you now!  You've had  a long haul of it.

    Thanks, Jackie for the kind words.  It's nice to be missed!  :-)  Much of my work is now finished so I hope to check in more often on the boards here.  I even played some golf this morning and in a few minutes I'm heading out to moderate at the regional Scholastic Bowl Competition. 

    More later.

    Rita

  • Rene23
    Rene23 Posts: 290
    edited April 2012

    Karen - The first time I tried on wigs was a tearful event as well. I think my friend who came with me had an even harder time because she was trying so hard to hold it together for my sake. I did much better on my subsequent visits, my son even accompanied me to my final one.



    Mary - I did most of my surgeries at Northwest Comm. I did my chemo in the Arl. Hts and EGV offices of my onc group (NWC and Alexian Bros. staff).



    Hopeful Healing - I'm almost 7 years out and in the Stick a Fork In Me, I'm Done! stage. I had a uni Mx, then a prophy 6 yrs later. I'll PM you and see if I can be of any help with the documentary.



    Joan - Glad to hear you are doing so well.



    Invisible - I'm so sorry. I think we have discussed before about how many of us had our personal sobbing spaces. Mine was in the master bathroom, on the floor, by the tub. I'd just close the door and have my breakdown. Those were some really difficult dark times, which I know you are having now. Hopefully, sharing and venting here to those of us who can empathize will offer some comfort to you.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2012

     Difficulties are meant to rouse, not discourage. The human spirit is to grow strong by conflict. -William Ellery Channing (1780-1842)

     Times of great calamity and confusion have been productive for the greatest minds. The purest ore is produced from the hottest furnace. The brightest thunder-bolt is elicited from the darkest storm. -Charles Caleb Colton (1780-1832)

     The difficulties which I meet with in order to realize my existence are precisely what awaken and mobilize my activities, my capacities. -Jose Ortega Y Gasset (1883-1955)

     When it is dark enough, you can see the stars. -Ralph Waldo Emerson 

    For all of us but very much for invisible who is finding the struggle taking so much away right now.  I think I have had all these quotes in at one time or other.......Wishing you well and very much wishing easier times very soon for you invisible.

    Hugs, Jackie

  • Rene23
    Rene23 Posts: 290
    edited April 2012

    Perfect quotation choices, Jackie. 

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2012

    Quite a thunderstorm here during the night....though the thunder seemed fairly far away and not over my head like the last one.  Cooler today as well.  I think we will stay dry and that is nice. 

    A word of warning.....I think due to the lack of winter we might end up with loads and loads of bugs.  Just this morning....I found the second tick on me and I think only the most recent small cold snap, along with rain have slowed that.....but it is early to be finding these creatures attempting residence.  I am out in the country but if you walk in wooded areas.....well, you know.  And Laura lives in the woods too......

    I think Rita has some woods too.....keep your eyes open.

    I hope you will all have a good day and no storms. 

    Hugs, Jackie

  • valerie0118
    valerie0118 Posts: 60
    edited April 2012

    Today is one week from my surgery.  I have an appointment with the surgeon and hopefully my pathology report will be back and news will be good.  He said the sentinal nodes removed were negative but until that path report is back from the removed tissue, I'm still thinking about it.  I guess we will all think about recurrance all of our lives, having gone through this whole experience.  What gets me is that I felt the best I have felt in 20 years right before this diagnosis and yet now, I can't get affordable life insurance or even disability insurance because of one diagnosis of breast cancer. Cancer is looked at as all one disease....it doesn't matter that I was proactive and had my mammogram and early diagnosis.  According to the insurance company that I was dealing with for disability insurance (additional like Aflec), I now have to wait 8 years before being able to qualify for any further insurance.  I wasn't even expecting them to qualify this event or further cancer events.  They downright turned me down.

     My arm is getting stronger.  I've been doing the exercises shown to me in the hospital and my right side arm (mastectomy side) has increased motion.  I don't even notice pain on the lumpectomy side and the exercises are a little silly for that side.  I'm still limited on the mastectomy side in lifting my arm to the side.  I can slowly go a little past shoulder level but then feel pain so I stop.   When did you all notice full range of motion on your mastectomy side?  Did any of you work with an occupational therapist to help return to your pre-surgery strength?  I am fairly active and was doing some fairly intensive exercises before this and I'm eager to get back to my schedule.  I was 20 lbs away from my goal weight before surgery and have lost 45 lbs over the last 4 years.  I still want to reach my goal weight and get in better shape to help prevent further disease from getting a foothold.

    Hope you all are doing great!  My prayers for those of you facing surgery, chemo, or radiation treatments!  

  • DeborahC
    DeborahC Posts: 24
    edited April 2012

    Hi Valerie, I am 5 weeks out from my double mastectomy.  I can reach all the way over my head now, but it still feels very painful and tight to do so.  I figure as long as I can do more and go farther every day I don't need PT (although many of my neighbors have done this and said it helped).  I am assuming you have expanders - which is really what hurts and limits my motion.  I took pain meds for about 2 weeks (down to 1 pill/day after about 8 days).  I started my fills last week.  40 cc at a time seems to be my limit.  It is uncomfortable and keeps that tight feeling going forever - but not painful.  I just wish I could sleep 8 hours in a row.   I need to start Tamoxifen soon and I'm afraid after reading all the SE's posted on these boards.  I'm just waiting for my Coumadin to reach therapeutic levels.

  • valerie0118
    valerie0118 Posts: 60
    edited April 2012

    Thanks Deborah,  Yes I have an expander on the right side.  I'm like you....just keep pushing a little more each day and I'm religious on the stretching 3-5 times per day.  I want to get back to my regular exercise schedule but some of the exercises are probably going to be excluded.  I am going to start doing some of it with my legs and core....and limit arm movements.  I just can't stand the thought of losing ground when I've come so far.  Four years ago I couldn't walk up stairs without losing my breath.  Before surgery, I was doing circuit training 4X weekly using the Jillian Michaels website and feeling stronger and healthier that I did at 40 (I'm now 50).  

     I'm sleeping fairly soundly and a lot more than I was before the surgery.  It amazes me that I can take a deep nap in the afternoon and then sleep another 6-7 hours at night soundly.  My body must need it and I'm trying to give it what it needs.  I have to sleep on a pile of pillows on my back and I don't think I move at night....just pass out...because I wake up in the same position the next morning.  I usually sleep on my right side and miss cuddling with my hubby.  He is afraid to get tangled in the drain tubes right now. 

    Good luck with the tamoxifen.  I haven't found out what my further treatment will be.  The surgeon had me delay the appointment with the oncologist until after my surgery and it is scheduled for April 30.  I see the surgeon today and I'm hoping the pathology report is back and we can start planning what is next.  

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited April 2012

    Valerie glad you are doing well. I did work with a PT several times for my arm/range and LE. I never really got my full range back but I think I'm one of the few. I also had 10 nodes on once side so that has a lot to do with it. Right side I have most of it back (4 nodes). It takes a while though.  You're only 1 week out.

    BTW I took out long term care 5 months before all t his crap started! Now with the new laws I don't think I took it for long enough but I don't think I can do anything about it. If I change and they see my diagnosis they might cancel me.

    I too was in great shape before all this… and if one more MD told me I was so small and tiny I was going to deck them. Even the gal who did the lung X-ray was excited because she knew I would fit on the screen. I mean I am 5'6". How small could I really be? We are about the same age. I'm 49+2

  • NancyJill
    NancyJill Posts: 127
    edited April 2012

    DeborahC: I've had no problem with Tamoxifen! Maybe you won't either! Joan: glad you have turned a corner. Wig issues: I took my friend the first visit and my daughters (teens) when they buzzed my head and it helped.

    I have been feeling good since radiation is over! Had my one month follow-up with RO and he said I don't have to go back for 6 months. I've been done with Taxotere since end of October, and the rest of chemo in January, (which didn't cause hair loss) and have hair now hat everyone says is "cute" and has been trimmed twice for shaping and removing fuzzies. That's great, but I still want it longer! I have reached a stage, though, where cancer isn't foremost in my mind anymore. I have to try not to miss every 3 week infusions of Herceptin! Unlike Valerie and lago I'm not in the best shape, but walked twice on the weekend. Have been doing house things/decorating/laundry. Need to try to make walking a priority in my life. That's my goal.

  • Adey
    Adey Posts: 2,413
    edited April 2012

    Lago-  Own it girl!  I'll be 50 soon.  You do not look or act it.

    Congrats, healing vibes, and welcome to the applicable!

    Hugs to all!

  • joan888
    joan888 Posts: 711
    edited April 2012

    Invisible... You describe a pretty familiar scenario for most of us. BC really does turn your life upside down. Makes you angry, depressed, scared, etc. Like Rene, my master bathroom hosted my early melt-downs. Then, WTH, the couch worked fine. I was keeping the Kleenex company in business! Then I also felt so guilty because I have a very supportive DH and family, a nice home, good insurance, good doctors, blah, blah, blah. And that's not enough? Apparently not, I wanted my old life back ASAP. I too was in the best physical shape of my life and feeling very confident and strong. Any way, it may seem like a long road ahead right now, but you will come out the other side. Jackie's quotes today are right on target. Let me know if I can help.



    Just left my PS office where I was able to drop off one more drain. Only one to go, but I bet I am stuck with that one for at least a couple more weeks. So now, I need to figure out what I can wear to my DH's company retirement dinner tomorrow night. Hiding one drain should be easier but It will be something loose and flowing... Probably a nice scarf. Kids are flying in tomorrow for the festivities. My DIL is a real fashion bug. I hope she can give me advice.



    It's pretty brisk, breezy and chilly downtown today. But I always like to get in a big walk back to the water taxi station and do a bit of shopping on the way. So glad that my DH stayed home today so I can SHOP.

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited April 2012

    Yes Adey that's why I say I'm 49+2 instead of 51. Of course I want to really tell everyone I'm 65 and that my PS did awesome job Wink

    NancyJill I'm getting my hair buzzed (sides and back) again tomorrow. I love this short cut. It's so easy. I need the extra time to fix my eyebrows and "massage" my implants Tongue out

  • Adey
    Adey Posts: 2,413
    edited April 2012

    He did do a great job, which may be why you like to play with them so much!  (c:  I need a haircut bad, but I told DD that I would try to grow it out a bit so she could give me a hair cut!  I don't know if I will be able to stand it.  (c:  My breakdown was on the back of a motorcycle.  I realized my youth and life as I knew it were gone.  Phssssssst.  True, but life is good!  Strength and peace.

  • spunkyboobster
    spunkyboobster Posts: 563
    edited April 2012

    NancyJill- hooray for no RO for 6 months.  good news on the hair and for cancer not being the first thing on your mind-there are so many better things to dwell on. Keep up the walking-are you doing hte Wellness Walk?

    Joan-shop, but please, not til you drop Wink

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited April 2012

    Adey I wasn't talking about my boobie prizes. I don't play with them. I  have to remind myself to do the daily massage. Its another "new thing" to add to my schedule.  BTW I think I look younger standing next to you. People just think I'm just as young as you. Oh wait we are almost the same age. Guess we both look good Tongue out

    Joan we want a shop and tell when you get back.

  • Adey
    Adey Posts: 2,413
    edited April 2012
    Lago-  Flattery will get you everywhere!  I bet dh would handle the massage for you.  Tongue out
  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653
    edited April 2012
    He's always been more of a butt man but  maybe that's because I didn't really have much boobage before. Seriously the way I have to "massage" is more of an agressive displacement. I don't see him being into that. Tongue out
  • valerie0118
    valerie0118 Posts: 60
    edited April 2012

    Well I'm back from the surgeon and my pathology report was in.  I was hoping for great news and got OK news.  I have to go back for re-excision of the left side lumpectomy.  They detected some DCIS in the tissue removed and the margin wasn't big enough.  So now I know I need radiation and will be on tamoxafin for 5 years.  Neither side showed discrete mass lesions.....guess I don't have a tumor size to insert.  He rated both cancers found as IA....does that mean primary grade 1. The left side was described as DCIS, solid and cribriform types, nuclear grade 3 with focal necrosis (0.5cm in greatest dimension).   I'm trying to figure my signature out.  I am ER+/PR+, HER2- for both sites. My re-excision is scheduled for May 11....he wants to give the site a chance to heal so that he can put the catheter in and have it sit properly. 

    So I guess I'm joining the radiation/tamoxifin club.  I'm glad I found this group of women!  We are all in this together. 

    Lago, I'm not quite as tiny as you!    I'm 5'7" and right now about 20 lbs from my goal weight.  This disease has pretty much stopped my weight loss goal but at least I'm not in the poor shape I was in 4 years ago.  

  • Bogie
    Bogie Posts: 79
    edited April 2012

    Rene - I'm also out of Northwest Community with my Breast Surgeon and Medical Oncologist in the Busse Center. Now Lymphadema specialist unfortunately as well.



    Hopeful - I can try to be some help on your documentary emotional side from my Bilateral Masectomy, although I may be better with words right now since im only 4 months out.



    I feel too vulnerable this early in the game to get in front of a camera. I got choked up just reading your post. It's a great idea especially showing the medical community the side they never know about.



    I have 3 Dr. Appts this week and one PT. I find it Intersting that not one of these medical offices have hours beyond the 9 to 4. What happened to a Sat morning or once a week till 5 or 6 pm. Patients are people too with lives and work full time demanding jobs. Impossible to work and meet thei hours!