Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • puffin2014
    puffin2014 Posts: 979
    edited November 2014

    Carole, that sounds like a fun idea to get together next summer. Lew has family that lives in Brainerd.


    Sandra and Wren, thanks for the Alaska feedback.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited November 2014

    Teka -- I think you hit the nail on the head there.  Monica Lewinsky interjected herself into the news a couple of times and the last time not too long ago.  I think she got a really poor reception from people.  Meaning I think she too "needed" to be 'noticed'  so wanted to "rekindle" her 15 mins. of former fame. 

    I guess I view it as  something that is long past and there is little reason ( unless it is something on a personal level ) to try to regenerate something that was laid to rest long time ago. 

    Jackie 

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,024
    edited November 2014

    I think there are too many women coming forward for me to conclude that Cosby is probably innocent.  I wonder how long he and his wife have been married.  I guess I could look it up if I were curious enough.

    Puffin, some of the people we know at Pine Hollow Resort are from Brainerd.  Quite a few are from Fargo and one older couple about our age are from Minneapolis.  I hope we are able to go back next summer.  We really enjoy our time in that location.  The nearest town is Park Rapids, which is a nice little town with nice people. 

  • puffin2014
    puffin2014 Posts: 979
    edited November 2014

    Carole: yes, I'm familiar with Park Rapids. Back when my legs were young we used to ride our bikes on the bike trail that goes through Park Rapids. It's a beautiful area

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited November 2014

    Every decision that you make either moves you toward your personality, or toward your soul.  Each decision you make is an answer to the question, "How do you choose to learn love?", "How do you choose to learn authentic empowerment-- through doubt and fear, or through wisdom?"
     
    Gary Zukav

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited November 2014

    Going to be wet here off and on through the day.  We are however; much, much warmer than we have been the last three or more weeks.  Feels rather good outside.  Though off and on today giving you a little dry out time in-between it really sounds like it will just rain for the most part very consistently tomorrow.  Hmmm.  Well, no reason not to expect "odd" weather -- who knows when. 

    I understand via the t.v. news that Bill Cosby had a performance last night somewhere ? and he was given a rather long standing ovation.  So, leads me to think there are a lot of people who just simply think this is something that could have and should have been handled long ago and shouldn't interfere when people are now so much older and should be able to look to some "ease" in life rather than 'torture'.  I can go with that.  Teka, you really did have it right.

    Blessings

    Jackie

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,075
    edited November 2014

    I find it a little hard to believe that he needed to rape a woman. He was very good looking and should have had no trouble finding consenting females.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited November 2014

    Good looking and not lacking in a gracious gentlemanly style either I bet.  I just think had there EVER been anything -- there would have been enough noteworthy and newsworthy chastisement that Cosby could never have made it to this point.  Neither though, do I think him perfect, but that 'celebrities' make very good targets as they do have great assets.  Also don't think Mrs. Cosby ( Camille ) could have just sat next to him like she did if she wasn't sure of Mr. Cosby.  I don't know for sure, but I think she is his one and only wife that he has been married to since a young age.   

    Also, I do think those that step out of line so badly ( if one is totally sure they have ) should have to be sanctioned for that behavior with whatever is appropriate.  We so need to respect and care for each other -- but part of respect and care is not only doing what's right -- but doing it at the proper time.  I'm not convinced at all that anything happened and bringing it out long after it is an offense that one could actually be prosecuted for leaves me  with suspicions about the person coming forward so late.  Do the right thing and do it at the right time. 

    Jackie


     

  • puffin2014
    puffin2014 Posts: 979
    edited November 2014

    Here's this week's photo, the back is definitely filling in, pleased how much difference I see even in just a week.

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  • magicalbean
    magicalbean Posts: 193
    edited November 2014

    Carol and Puffin: I lived in LeSueur for almost 30 years. The Rat Bastard Ex lives in Hovland-north of Grand Marais. Minnesota is a beautiful state.

  • shuf
    shuf Posts: 79
    edited November 2014

    Puffin2014 your looking good! Shuf

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Posts: 1,750
    edited November 2014

    Found some funny things to post on Facebook today. Kept myself giggling all morning. You can find me at Sandra Pruett Asher in case you want a new "friend."

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  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,024
    edited November 2014

    Have been cooking all day today for the family dinner tomorrow at my mother's house.  Made lovely cloverleaf rolls using a recipe off the food network.  Now I'm off to the kitchen to put together something for dinner.  I hope the weather isn't as bad tomorrow morning as some of the weather models indicate.

  • di2012
    di2012 Posts: 871
    edited November 2014

    Hi Ladies....

    been missing everyone....

    too tired, many test, doctors....

    Dexascan, I have osteoporosis.....no more skiing or zip lining for me....don't want broken bones!

    Sad

    2 different kind of CT scans 3 weeks apart, mass, saw PCP, she sent me to a GI doc, saw her, she wanted to see the mass, next night ( or as husband called it, to humor me, "Saturday date night" in the ER overnight, thinking I was having a heart attack (I had a silent one last year), endoscopy and colonoscopy this past Monday (2nd colonoscopy this year....UGH.....the prep (SUPREP) was easy both times....hardest part was no solid food Saturday evening to Monday early evening...STARVING! no mass could be seen....colon wall thickening, esophagus thickening....??? see GI doc in Dec again.

    PCP yesterday

    RX: IV infusion for osteo in hospital infusion center..... they haven't called yet, so not scheduled yet

    ECHO for heart in hospital....they haven't called to schedule yet either

    PS appointment for pre-op for revision.....unless I get pissed off and get another PS opinion after seeing him....after all he is the one that f***ed up

    Will try to catch up....

    Hugs to all,

    Di

    foggy sunset pic from my living room.....

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  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Posts: 1,750
    edited November 2014

    Di !!!!!!!!!!! We've been wondering if you were ok. My goodness, what an ordeal you've been through. Kisses and hugs to you, sweet friend. Don't worry about catching up.

    P.S. Washington State is so beautiful.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,800
    edited November 2014

    Carole: I cancelled going to my niece's baby shower today because of the weather forecast. The shower was at least an hour's drive each way & I didn't want to get caught that far away from home w/the predicted wind, hail, tornadoes, street flooding, etc. that was supposed to come through no later than noon. As it turned out, we still have nothing but light rain at 8:20pm & I feel like a dope. They're still saying 90% storms tonight, but I think this front is moving much more slowly than originally forecast and maybe breaking up some. Hope you don't get the brunt of it tomorrow.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited November 2014

    Photo and we are all so glad you are back Di.  O my goodness you have  gone through so much -- I hope this is the home stretch for you.  Also hope you gets lots of rest and heal.  Wow !!!!

    Raining here lightly as I left work -- drat.  We did know it was coming though so we will do what we always do -- hold on till it's better.  More rain for us tomorrow too -- but they are saying -- it will start late.  We don't have a happy medium much here.  I think it either does way less of what they say or way more.  We will just roll with the punches even if they are wet and sloppy. 

    See you all later. 

    Jackie

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,075
    edited November 2014

    Di, Welcome back. Sorry to hear you're having such a rough time. YUCK! Two colonoscopies? Are you trying to set a record? I sure hope you're feeling better soon. You deserve a break.

  • Miminiemi
    Miminiemi Posts: 260
    edited November 2014

    I planned to drive to the Missour lake place to clean house before the family came for Thanksgiving. But I was saved by a predicted ice storm and had to stay in Iowa. Guess I'll just vacuum/dust a little on Wednesday and call it good. That picture made me really laugh. Thanks. Still feeling the smile on my cheeks (on my face.)

  • Miminiemi
    Miminiemi Posts: 260
    edited November 2014

    Clown fun at a birthday party.

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  • Miminiemi
    Miminiemi Posts: 260
    edited November 2014

    And one more pic. Smiles are what it's all about.

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  • blondiex46
    blondiex46 Posts: 2,726
    edited November 2014

    Yay mimi. Weather in philly  will b 52 tomorrow n i0 Monday,  what is going on

    H@ppy sunday, almost thanksgiving 

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258
    edited November 2014

    Morning gals! I just wanted to comment on Bill Cosby... I think that if it had been just ONE accuser, no matter how long ago, it might have all been forgotten, or again, swept under the rug... But when this many women come out, and say this about that man, it is not just all in their heads, or a way to get publicity.

    I don't like Janice Dickinson either... but for some reason I believe her.... and the other women.

    If you have ever been abused when you were a little girl... by ANYbody, you will remember it for the rest of your life. When you are only 7 or 8, and some guy does these THINGS to you, you are too afraid to say anything to anybody, especially your Parents... or anyone in your family. Because you think they will not believe you! You are only a little girl, being forced to do things you had no idea even existed.

    You are soo scared of what he might do to you, or your Mom... Maybe when you get older, you should know you can't trust everyone, but when you are little.. you are alone. If that man is a family friend, or a neighbor, you are just stuck in that place.... in that black hole, trying to go on with life, and not ever be hurt again.... THEN you grow up, and somehow, if you have done a good enough job of hiding it from everyone, even yourself, those memories will all of a sudden COME OUT! EVERYthing is remembered... ! And you just sob, and cry for that little girl that had no-one.

    And all you hope for is that man is dead.... gone! And if he isn't, you would gladly be in charge of taking matters in your own hands. It's just that even when you are grown, and this happened to you as a child, you still feel like it was your fault...and you are left with shame.

    These women maybe were afraid, and ashamed and did not want to report it.... But once they get the courage to SAY something about this man they trusted, then he SHOULD be held accountable for what he did! Over and OVER! They will never forget it... Memories will stay with you, and hurt you everytime you think about them.

    So I am glad they spoke out... False accusations are one thing... but that kind of behavior has no place on this earth... For men to abuse ANY girl or boy or woman, just for their own pleasure should be shot... to put it mildly..... IMOHO


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited November 2014

    Gratitude unlocks the fullness of life.  It turns what we
    have into enough, and more.  It turns denial into
    acceptance, chaos to order, confusion to clarity.
    It can turn a meal into a feast, a house into a home,
    a stranger into a friend.  Gratitude makes
    sense of our past, brings peace for today,
    and creates a vision for tomorrow.
     
    Melody Beattie

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited November 2014

    We are having our gloomy Sunday.  It started raining a little while ago.  It is not pouring and might not even do that, but sounds like it will be with us ( save for a few short minutes at some point way later ) all day and into the night hours.  Then tomorrow -- lots cooler ( in the 50's now ) and maybe even some snow showers.  Whatever !!!   I just know we will lose the temporary warmth ( nearly balmy after our freezing last two weeks )  of the last three or so days, and go back into sturdy coat weather.  Ick. 

    All else is ok.  I got out early to get the feral cats fed ( oh thank goodness ) because I knew that if I waited the chance of them getting a meal today would likely be impossible.  They all seem to "sense" this weather.  Even Billy, our big black Lab --- who avoids the dog pen in the daytime -- wanted to go back inside and camp out in the big doghouse.  At the store not only the regulars came out, but as well some of the last batch of kittens -- two very small black and one black and white ventured out to get a share of the food.  One of my employers sneaks me money to help feed these cats.  I'm very fortunate that he does this ( under the table ) but I would see that the cats had something no matter what.  He has no idea how much of a burden ( even if a loving one ) he lifts from me.  Still -- not something I expect -- just so very, very appreciated by me.  Few have ever offered me help with this project that was not supposed to  go as it did, and here I am almost 10 yrs. from what was to be a brief chore.  It's ok though.  Some doors once opened cannot easily be shut and this one is for sure one of them.

    Too bad our rain is not harder -- I could avoid the car wash.  Actually, it is warm enough out that if I hurried I could likely wash my car before I got too cold -- but my hear it not in it so I'll hope that old rain does turn harder later -- long enough to steal some of my dirt.

    Hope you all have a good Sunday today and hi to everyone.

    Blessings

    Jackie

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Posts: 402
    edited November 2014

    Bapeautiful sunset photo.

    Yesterday while it rained and today while DH is watching football, I'm crocheting Elsa and Anna hats for the grandgirls' Christmas. I love therapy days

  • blondiex46
    blondiex46 Posts: 2,726
    edited November 2014

    Still patiently waiting 4 a kitten to come my way. 

    Bill cosby.. dont like janice Dickenson either, but i believe her also. I think he did it all, arrogance is something he is full of. I am so sorry 4 those women.  Should he be punished,  statue of limitations is up on some. 

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258
    edited November 2014
  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,024
    edited November 2014

    Chevy, I agree with you on Cosby.  Too many women have come forward for it not to be true.  It's one thing to be a womanizer and have sex with a lot of women.  It's something else to drug and rape women.  I think women are more likely to come forward today than they were several decades ago.  As someone suggested in an earlier post, some of his victims may have been paid off. 

    Our chance of really bad weather today did not materialize.  We had some gentle rain this morning and then by early afternoon the sun was out.  I wore shorts today.  The high was in the 70's.  Tomorrow a cold front is due to arrive and bring more cold weather. 

    Jackie, that's very kind of you to be so faithful to feeding the feral cats. 

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Posts: 1,750
    edited November 2014

    A friend posted this on Facebook today.

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    Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman, that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags wer...en't good for the environment. The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days." The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."  She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.

    Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were truly recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day. Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags, that we reused for numerous things, most memorable besides household garbage bags, was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our schoolbooks. This was to ensure that public property, (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribbling's. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags. But too bad we didn't do the green thing back then.

    We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was
    right. We didn't have the green thing in our day. Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throwaway kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right; we didn't have the  green thing back in our day.

    Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right; we didn't have the green thing back then.

    We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of  buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then.
    Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint. 

    Isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?