Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • MomMom
    MomMom Posts: 334
    edited April 2015


    Mommarch, Prayers for you as you come up with your treatment plan this week. 

    Jackie, I couldn't agree with you more with regard to some people not being able to "be" as they were born.  It's my opinion, that we have no control over who we were born as, be it sexual orientation or gender identity.  It is real.  Great strides have been made in the acceptance of gay people and strides will be made in the acceptance of transgender people.  I think we are here on this earth to love one another - to be tolerant and accepting of everyone. 

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,018
    edited April 2015

    Such a gorgeous day today.  Maybe if we had weather like this all the time it wouldn't be so special.  I love being able to walk outside and enjoy being "outside." 

    I picked up the license plate and registration for my Prius today and learned that we should have had the car inspected.  DH and I thought we had to wait for the plate and registration.  Tomorrow I'll have the car inspected.  A little dumb considering it's brand new but I guess the state needs its $$.

    Mommarch, thinking about you. 

  • bonnets
    bonnets Posts: 737
    edited April 2015

    So nice here today! Opened the windows on the porch and ate supper out on the porch. Wish it wud stay this nice!


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2015

    Glad so many can "enjoy" the sun and warmth.  Seemed like such a long winter to me -- too much rain and far too many gray skies.  Here's hoping we all can have a good amt. of great weather.  We still have more leaves to fill in, but it has started to become fairly difficult to see some of the homes around us.  I'm talking the next street more than ours as there are only three homes here.  Part of my love of living at the lake is that when Spring is over -- no one knows we are here.  Our little dirt covered lane as well as our houses sort of disappear.

    Jackie

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258
    edited April 2015

    Morning gals... MomMom, you are sooooooo cute! Sometimes when I have crazy opinions, its just me talking about something I really don't understand.

    And sometimes I am just so set on thinking the way I do, I have a hard time being open minded and not sounding so old-fashioned.

    It's like all the legalizing pot going on here, and now the people dealing with all the ramifications... Maybe I should just shake my head, and change my attitude.... Ha!

    It's all just so different now... Growing up in the 40's & 40's was just such an easy time.... Everything was just "different".... and its hard to see how our lives have changed now with all the drugs, open-ness, and acceptance that just wasn't "there" when we were "learning" and building our own lives....

    Except I thought it was funny, when I asked my older friend Theresa, if she liked Dancing with the Stars.... (She's 92).... and she yelled "NO, they don't even wear any clothes!"..... I just cracked up! Haaaaaaaaha! So I'm not THAT old fashioned....Loopy

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2015

    Love is a force that connects us to every strand of the universe, an unconditional state that characterizes human nature, a form of knowledge that is always there for us if only we can open ourselves to it.

     Emily Hilburn Sell


  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Posts: 402
    edited April 2015

    Chevy...I love your quilt. I've been leading a crochet group at the Cancer Support Center. One lady knits, so I'm learning and loving it. Guess this old dog is learning a new trick

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2015

    Good morning,

    Maybe I was thinking about you Chevy when I noticed today's quote.  Our earlier yrs. were great weren't they ????  But then we were young and had ( and hopefully it helped most come through ) flexibility.  There were issues, and problems -- and some were so trifling compared to what we sometimes face now.  Not to get too long-winded, but our universe is like a wheel -- no beginning or end, and each individual is a part of the WHOLE.  This is where that flexibility arises.  All of us, those who are VERY un-like us and those that are much closer to how we are.  Thinking here that the phrase -- love the sinner, but not the sin may come from that. 

    It is often hard to understand or even try -- a murderer, a prostitute, a bisexual, transgender or whatever is the thing that raises the hackles on the backs of our necks -- but they too are a part of the wheel.  Sometimes our flexibility helps us to love and care beyond the picture or presentation.  That doesn't mean that we will mimic any of these behaviors, but that we have reached a point where we can feel some compassion -- which would be much harder to develop if we were all the same.  So much harder for US to grow if our world was not full of differences.  We will ALL understand everything --- if not in this world, certainly in the next one which is why this world is here and is now. 

    So it is all going to be all right -- for everyone. 

    Oh, its sunshine here this morning.  We ( despite some coolness ) are just having things pretty gorgeous.  I look out at all the NEWNESS that is a part of Spring and it is just an almost breathless amazement and why I love this time of yr. so much.  How the old trees must be singing inside with the growth spurts of all those fresh new leaves after the tiredness and rest of the long winter falls away.  What a fantastic gift -- and makes me so glad that I came back home.  I loved ( most of the time anyway ) southern California when I lived there.  But at some point some yrs. after I had been there, I felt some lack - an ingredient missing.  When I came back home here and re-experienced the excitement connected to the seasons it just fell into place.  Some rhythms are inside of you and you miss your connection  ( like missing a train ) if you cannot be in tune with them at the right times. 

    It is going to be a good day here and I really hope it is going to be a great one for everyone.

    Blessings

    Jackie

  • anneb1149
    anneb1149 Posts: 821
    edited April 2015

    Morning all

    Jackie- I thought I would be just like you when my DD moved to Ga. Seasons again! After all, I grew up in NYC. I do enjoy the fall, and the fireplace in the winter, but I am disappointed at how many gray, dreary days go with the seasons, especially winter and spring. I can deal with the cold, I am not really an outdoor person, but the wet, not even rainy, really, cold, gray days really get to me. I am always glad to get back to sunny Fl, even with its heat and humidity.

    Re the whole sexual orientation thing- I just feel so sorry for our grandchildren and the world we have given them. While individual parents might try to instill values like kindness, integrity, etc, the media touts standards that totally oppose those. The "world" says a women needs to look a certain way, and everyone has to adhere to "society's" criteria and has made a person's private life fodder for anyone's input. My sexual behavior and/ or orientation were never a part of my job, or even for that matter, a topic of discussion outside our own bedroom. Yes, friends and I would talk about sex sometimes, but our own sex lives were not part of the discussion. I worked with several gay people, who, like me, did not discuss or behave in a way that made their sexual orientation obvious to the whole world. I knew because others told me, or in one case, I happened to be at SAMS when I saw my co-worker with another woman. I recognized their behavior as that of a long time married couple, and when I asked someone, I was told yes, they had been together for many years. I had known her for years at this point. The gays I have problems with are the ones that make being gay their whole identity and everything else is secondary. Be whoever you were born to be, but keep your sexuality where it belongs- in your bedroom. I don't mean hide it and be ashamed of it- I just mean don't force it on everyone you see. It is important to be accepted in your own life, but it really is not something everyone who comes in contact with you needs to be told. . Can you hold your partners hand in public- yes, and even kiss? Yes, briefly in public. I have to say that I find the medias constant barrage of the love affairs and sexual behaviors of straight people just as offensive as I do the constant attention to gay issues. I believe gender identity and in most cases sexual orientation are there at birth, but I believe they should be handled privately. In the case of gender identification, if it were my child and I knew during their school years, I believe I would move so no one the child had contact with, would know his/her past history- not out of shame, but just to give the child a free slate instead of heavy baggage. I believe it is stressful enough to deal with family, much less your whole world.

    My DGS has his first girlfriend. Very sweet. But, she used to be his best friends girlfriend. Even that is not unheard of. But the reason they broke up is because boyfriend #1 was "emotionally" unavailable to her. What?!? At 15? And their whole group thinks he is gay, and either doesn't realize it or doesn't want to admit it. None of them care if he is, they like him as part of their group and can't see that changing. Beyond that, the girlfriend, a very sweet girl, suffers from anxiety or panic attacks- again at 16?? ( she just had a birthday). She is very needy emotionally and although DGS is very attentive, he said one day to her that he was tired of reassuring her he was not the old boyfriend. She should understand that by his behavior by now. That started hours and hours of an anxiety attack and phone calls and frustration on his part to the point that he screamed at his mom when she walked into his room. Trust me when I say that is not his normal self.

    He also thought that his 16th birthday brought the right to smoke or do some kind of drug. He didn't have any intention of doing either, but thought he was now legal to do so. It's funny- the one thing he is able to do at 16, drive, he had no interest in at this time.

    We are, again, through the media, giving our kids a much tougher life than we had, in so many ways- but I have been on my soapbox long enough, so I will leave things there

    I went to see my surgeon yesterday and a small section of the incision is infected. I have to put ointment on it and am on a 7 day round of antibiotics. I am a little upset because my youngest son (29) is having some serious back issues and wants his mommy. And, of course, I want to be there for the grand children's end-of-year activities. Hopefully it will clear up easily, and he will give me the go-ahead to travel next week.

    {{{Hugsto Mommarch}}}

    Anne

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2015

    Anne,

    I think you hit all the nails squarely on the head. 

    Jackie

  • MomMom
    MomMom Posts: 334
    edited April 2015


    Such great, thought provoking comments from everyone!!  This is a good group, with our hearts in the right place for sure.  Just trying to do the best we can.  My thoughts have certainly evolved too over the years.  {{{{{{Hugs to all}}}}}}.

    Paula

  • mommarch
    mommarch Posts: 534
    edited April 2015

    We are back home. I am exhausted and have been sleeping most of the day. If it is not cost prohibitive I will start on oral chemo taking a drug called Xeloda. It will be 4 pills in the morning and 4 pills in the evening for 14 days and then off for 21 days. After the 14 days I will see the ONC the next week. I have to have a CBC every week. It will be 6 to 8 regiments and then a scan. If it is cost prohibitive we will go with IV chemo. ONC is trying to make it to where we do have to drive 200 miles one way every two weeks.

    They are finding out the our cost of the med and will let us know and we will go from there.

    Thanks for caring.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2015

    Mommarch -- thoughts are with you and I so hope that something can and will be arranged so that the cost is not too hard to bear and that you will be able to skip that long drive.  Get lots of rest, while I send lots of prayers through the Universe on your behalf.  Everything crossed and all the positive energies I can find for you.

    Hugs and blessings,

    Jackie

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited April 2015

    Paula -- love the hugs !!

    Jackie

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,075
    edited May 2015

    Mommarch, Healing thoughts coming your way. I hope you don't have to do the big drive. Get some rest and gain strength for the fight ahead. Hugs.

  • ritajean
    ritajean Posts: 4,042
    edited May 2015

    Thanks for the update mommarch. I am hoping and praying that you don''t have to make the long drive and can do the oral drugs. Hugs across the miles to you!

  • Jo6202
    Jo6202 Posts: 165
    edited May 2015

    Momarch,

    Thoughts and prayers coming your way. Hope you won't have to make that long drive. Good to hear from you.

    Jo

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited May 2015

    The powerful potential behind change lies in the possibility that each
     new beginning will bring us greater joy and freedom than we have ever
     known.  Whether or not that actually happens--whether or not we
     continue to grow through the cycles of our lives--is largely up to us.
     We play a part in what happens by choosing how we see our changes,
     our beginnings, our endings.  We can see each ending as a tragedy and
     lament and resist it, or we can see each ending as a new beginning and
     a new birth into greater opportunities.  What the caterpillar sees as the
     tragedy of death, the butterfly sees as the miracle of birth.

    John Marks Templeton
    Worldwide Laws of Life


  • ritajean
    ritajean Posts: 4,042
    edited May 2015

    Hey, Jackie, I am following you around the sites this morning! I just wanted to pop on before I got busy today and wish everyone a happy and good Friday. The sun is shining in Illinois today and it looks like it is going to be a great day to be outside.


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited May 2015

    Quietly, as I type, I'm singing inside "Oh What A Beautiful Morning" because it is.  The winter is safely tucked away now.  Spring can be iffy and I hold my breath, but I can let it out now.  Our freak snows usually come at the first of April.  Also, the stuffy full nose and the green coloring outside everywhere -- parked on railing and glass tables and my car that is pure pollen -- means we are well on the way.

    Several things to do today.  I have to go have another perm.  Wondering if I want a shorter do or just what.  Decisions !!!!!  I have no style -- somehow when girly attributes were being passed out --- I seemed to have been MIA for a bit.  I have no style for clothes, make-up, hair-do's and lastly I am not at all handy with my hands --- unless you want to count opening cat & dog food bags and cans.  I really do have that one down pat.  Maybe I'll just ask Beth -- and no matter what she says I'll likely do it -- and never actually SEE if it is right or not. 

    I'd worry about this but the truth is -- it simplifies my life.  I use a sm. amt. of eyebrow color and a shade of mauve lipstick that just makes me feel like I'm sporting a fairly natural look -- used it for yrs. and some clothes ( not well matched most of the time, but very important ) and I'm on my way out the door.   I noticed early on that the feral cats I feed only give cursory glances as I dole out their food -- and the people in town became use to my "get-up" long ago.  No raised eyebrows there --- so I do not spend hours in the powder room. 

    Today -- well, prayers and hope that it is a great one for everyone. 

    Blessings

    Jackie

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,799
    edited May 2015

    Monmarch - adding my hopes & prayers that you can avoid the drive and the Xeloda works out.

  • bonnets
    bonnets Posts: 737
    edited May 2015

    Momarch, also adding my prayers for you as you begin this next journey.

    The sun was out here but has gone to in and out.

    Had my mammo, good results. Now I can breathe for another year. Never gets any easier, does it?

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,799
    edited May 2015

    Bonnets - so glad for you that the mammo had good results. Nope - I don't think it ever gets easier.

  • ritajean
    ritajean Posts: 4,042
    edited May 2015

    Bonnets....YAY on the good mammo. Nope, I don't think it ever gets easier! Now you can take a big sigh of relief and go on with your life for another year!!!!! Doing the happy dance for you!

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,018
    edited May 2015

    Great news, Bonnets!  Yay for good mammogram!

    Jackie, you are one of the most positive people I've ever known.  You see everything in a constructive light.

    Gorgeous day here.  I played golf early, 8 am tee time, and had lunch with three of my friends who played.  One didn't stay.  I'm proud of myself because the buffet featured fried catfish and big home fries.  Both looked really good, but I made myself a salad off the salad bar and enjoyed it with a glass of iced tea.  I knew I would be cooking a good dinner tonight.  So I'm patting myself on the back! 

    After lunch I went to Walmart's to buy groceries for my mother, who had given me a list.  I continue to be thankful for her good spirits.  She's amazing for a 92 year old living by herself. 

    Mommarch, you're in my thoughts.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited May 2015

    Bonnets -- count me inThumbsUp being delighted for the good mammo.  It has been 8 yrs. of good mammo pics for me and I still get just a little twinge.  I hope that is all you and I and everyone here ever have.  

    Jackie

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,018
    edited May 2015

    Good morning, everyone.  Another beautiful day here.  Perfect day for yard work.  I'll tackle the big stack of pine straw bales I had delivered last week and get some mulching done.  Also more weeding.  It will be good for me to get that exercise.  It will be good for me to get that exercise.  It will be good for me....   LOL! 

    Hugs to all.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited May 2015

    For a long time it had seemed to me that life was about to begin--real life.  But there was always some obstacle in the way, something to be got through first, some unfinished business, time still to be served, a debt to be paid.  Then life would begin.  At last it dawned on me that these obstacles were my life.  -Alfred D'Souza

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited May 2015

    Another beauty of a day.  It will get up to almost 80 the weather man  said Winkingso it will be good weather for Bermuda's probably.  Will be like that most of the week-end and coming week.  Just nice !!!!

    Good exercise, good exercise.  We bought a month's pass at the Rec Center for the walking track and the gym combined.  Will see how it goes.  I'm ( I think ) more inclined to try just the walking pass ( $12.00 per month ) and figure out exercises to do here at home.  My issue is I have to figure a time to incorporate that and then FORCE myself to begin to do it.  The pass I just got was $32.00 -- not so terrible but it is just for a month and I think ( at least for me ) is a bit pricey.  I did take it this time to try it out as I had 7 days left on my old ( last month's ) pass and she just let me add the two passes together so got five weeks on the new pass.  The old pass was just a walking only pass -- so it was a good time to do the combination pass. 

    Bearing in mind -- the last few times I took the Next class --- the instructor kept telling us that 3-10 minutes rounds of exercise with gusto --- had been found to produce as much if not more fitness for you than doing something for 30 mins a day.  Part of the benefit was just doing more than one session and I felt like the indicators were that 3 times with some gusto actually made it more like your working out for longer than the 30 mins most people do when they do it once a day.  Like maybe the benefit for 45 to 60 mins a day.  Well, that may be next on my list with a walking pass.  I guess I just have to hope that the inspiration ( will this be the week I REALLY.REALLY get control ) to keep looking for solid, fruitful answers at the age of 70 is there.  Also hope along with that to get the inspiration to leave the cookies and ice cream alone.  Now that would really be a boon and boost to me.....sigh, but they still taste so good -- especially after a big hearty and healthy salad you know. 

    See you all later.  Enjoy the sun !!!

    Blessings

    JackieSmile