Lumpectomy Lounge....let's talk!
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Just checking in to send hugs and good thoughts to all...I've read all of these posts and just wish I could respond to them all...Peggy, good luck with finalizing the hunt and with the move!
Krissibee, I would also call the doc on call if possible...there are special surgical bandages that may help, but it isn't unheard of to have to go back in...
Hugs to all!
Octogirl
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LTF- your schedule sounds like mine! Still dizzy today but better than yesterday. I find when I stay up past 10, I sleep all night because I'm exhausted!
Blamoms- omg... The shards of hair getting down in my bra and down my back... Exactly like they didn't sweep away the hairs after a cut!!
Mel- Thanks for the kind words;) Glad to hear that your man surprised you with a well deserved visit. I echo LTF with the restorative yoga. And have someone treat you to reiki.
Peggy- go with the house that's speaking to you. That's how I decided on mine 9 years ago even when everyone else thought I was nuts. Turned out to be the best decision;)
Peachy- that's great on the trial. And it does feel good to "give back". Especially at DFCI. I donated extra blood during my draws and a tumor sample. What's up with the neck? I missed that.
Poodles- they told me my second n third will be cumulative SE's... Ugh.
Kriss- can you lie down and rest with some air on it? Take some alone time and let it breath?
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MLP3, I am planning on going with the house that speaks to me. Very scary. It seems very strange to be making such a big decision and not having DH's input and I'm missing it. I'm comfortable with my decision and that's all that matters in the end, isn't it? MLP3 glad you bought the right house for you. I think that most of the time we find and buy the home that speaks to us. I know we did with where I am now. Chuck and I looked at each other and said we could grow old and die in that house. Almost did! We saw all the possibilities for right then and the ability to add-on, which we did twice. No adding on to the new house

HUGS!
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Peggy, I am so glad you found a house that speaks to you. Our first house was like that. We both felt it before even walking through the door. Our current house was the home of some dear friends. We purchased it from their nephew when they both were gone. We always said this is our forever home but we are rethinking that because LA is so expensive and crowded. I am looking for places to purchase a retirement home. So far I am focusing on the west coast including Washington and Oregon. I want to be near my kids but I have no idea where the will end up.
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Hi All,
So my pre- surgical physical had a blip (literally too!!!!) ---- abnormal EKG and I have to go to cardiologist before I can get the surgery. I just
want to finally get my lumpectomy over with. So far thhe cardiologist only has time two days pre- op schedule so I will keep calling next week to see if I can get in sooner. I have two theories anyway (trying to think it is not a "serious" heart issues..
1. that I have actually been "Broken-hearted" in some ways since the diagnosis, for reasons (other than just plain old getting cancer) such as reactions of some folks around me (family nearby not participating, not asking etc. Perhaps just expectations of others that I would best to not have ...
I have had strangers and acquaintances show more concern than some people I know or are related to
2. The tech at the hospital was REALLY fast in doing my EKG! And she complained as I was walking in about what a long day it was. I
had instinct to ask for someone else to do it...she was rushed and not nice. Anyway, I am usually good about speaking up for myself Next time I know to call my doctor the very next day so there is no delay, as the Primary never indicated in five days they had the test that there was an issue and I could have had it taken care of soon.
All this advocating is really a lot of work - self advocating - and I must stay resolute to keep on doing it !
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Eleonora, I hope you get it straightened out quickly and there is truly no issues with your heart.
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Dear Ellie: Sorry that you have to advocate for yourself when you have a bc dx on your mind. I hope that the heart issue is nothing serious and that you can have your lx quickly.
Dear Kriss: Good luck. I have heard of second surgeries. I would contact your doctor asap. Good luck.
Dear Blamoms and 1Step: I am sorry that I did not include both of you when I was wishing LTF and MLP good luck with chemo. I wish all 4 of you luck, no SE's, and that all of you feel well. Same goes to anyone else that I missed.
Dear Peggy: I hope that they accept your offer on the house that "speaks to you". Good luck. We missed you here but take all the time you need to sell your house and to buy a new one. We all wish you the best. It is hard making the decisions without the input of your DH.
Dear Melclarity: I don't know about the residual effects of chemo. However, I do know that many people have severe bone and joint pain from Arimidex/Anastrazole. You may want to speak with your doctor about switching medications to a different AI. That may help mitigate your pain. Good luck. I'm glad that your man surprised you. Good for you.
Dear ItalyChick: I laughed with your response to me. Thanks.
Dear ChiSandy: Thanks for your response to me.
The ridiculous part about the recommendation was that it was just a phone call. The advisor had already written a letter of recommendation for my daughter. All the advisor had to say was that my daughter is a good student and that she recommends her. That would have taken less time then to say that the advisor wasn't going to give a recommendation. After that, the advisor could have contacted my daughter to tell my daughter to speak with the advisor in advance before using her name for a reference. Needless to say, my daughter will never list her as a reference ever again. Luckily, she had also listed 2 other people as references. Unfortunately, my daughter is only 20 years old and does not have a lot of work experience yet because she is a full time college student.
Dear HH: Sorry about your losses.
Dear Moondust: Enjoy the time off from rads.
Dear Molly: Good luck wherever you and your DH decide to settle for your retirement. You are such a sweet and caring person.
Dear Peachy: I am glad that you were selected for the Clinical Trials. It is very noble of you to participate. You will be helping many people. A friend of mine is on Ibrance now and so is a friend of my cousin's.
Dear Octogirl: I totally understand about how hard it is to catch up on this board and to respond.
Dear Poodles: Enjoy camping. It sounds like just what you need to help you recover and to feel better.
Dear Everyone Else: Hi and hugs. Sorry if I missed responding to you.
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I have recently been diagnosed with Microcalcifations in my right breast that are pre cancerous , I have very dense breasts , Both breasts have the microcalcifations . ..however the only suspicious ones were clustered and in the right breast ,They did a needle core biopsy , sent it to the lab, At which it came back pre cancerous So I was told this will be treated just like cancer, I have an appointment next week with a surgeon . ..... I'm thinking maybe a lumpectomy ? How ever, I am a size B So I am concerned about how that will work ? My calcifications are spread out. My sister thinks I should do a prophylactic Masectomy. I DON'T know what my options will be ? My mother was diagnosed with breast cancer at age 43, I am 41 my grandmother passed away from breast cancer. If anyone has any similar experience please help me, it's hard to find out best treatments for microcalcifations . Feeling lost
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Dear Andy:
I would definitely meet with a genetic counselor and have genetic testing done before you make any decisions regarding surgery. Genetic tests take time to run. Therefore, it will take time to obtain the results of genetic tests. However, if you have a genetic mutation, then you may opt for a BMX. If there is no mutation, then a LX would most likely, be fine. If you have a LX, then you can always have a BMX later. However, once you have a BMX, you cannot have a "do-over" because your breasts will be gone forever. Most doctors would not recommend mastectomy for a pre-cancerous diagnosis. That would be extreme surgery for a benign condition. Do you know the name of your pre-cancerous dx? (i.e. - Do you have an atypia (ADH, ALH, FEA, PASH, or any other type of atypia?) Do you have LCIS or Lobular Hyperplasia?) It is very scary and stressful to be diagnosed. You also have a strong family history of BC which may increase your risk. However, since you were diagnosed with precancer, that would mean that you have a benign finding. That means that you do not have to rush with your tx decision. You don't want to wait a long time but you have more time than if your were dx with an invasive cancer. Therefore, if I were you, I would meet with a MO (Medical Oncologist) and ask for options for tx. I would also meet with a BS (Breast Surgeon) and ask for options for surgery. Go for a second opinion. This is very anxiety provoking and although your head may be screaming, "Get the (pre)cancer out of my body" by having surgery immediately, it is better to speak with doctors and get facts. BC takes time to develop so you actually do have time before you rush to have surgery. You may also want to go to a support group for people living with breast cancer. Good luck and let us know. Welcome and hugs to you.
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Ellie, I was diagnosed within days of you. I have not had surgery (yet) because of the decision to do neoadjuvant hormone therapy. But, I totally understand your want to "get it over with" as I still have those feelings and sometimes do not want to wait for this thing to shrink. You are right!!! The self advocating is a LOT of work. Every single thing associated with my cancer has a lot of work on my part. It is exhausting and I feel like it is a full time job advocating for myself. (hugs) and just wanted to let you know that you are not alone in your feelings and thoughts.
Peggy! So glad you are going with the house that spoke with you. When I saw this house, I immediately got a "feeling". I saw it on a Sunday about 1pm. I left and on the way home, I called the realtor and said that I wanted to see it again with all three of my children. Met her again at 2:30pm. Put in an offer that day. There was another offer even though I was the first person to see it and when I saw it, it had only been on the market less than 24 hours. It was meant to be for sure! Especially since I went through the buying process right before diagnosis and not after.
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Dear Ayr: I am glad that you were able to buy the house of your dreams and that it all worked out prior to your bc dx. That is wonderful timing. Congrats on your house. I totally understand about wanting to have surgery rather than waiting for the tumor to shrink from the neoadjuvant hormone therapy. However, if that is what your MO thinks is best than it is the correct tx decision. Good luck to you.Dear Ellie: Good luck.
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Andy: you have my sympathy! sorry I can't offer specific help with the treatment plan, but 614's advice is good. Genetic counseling, for starters. Second opinion, ditto. Right now you're in what's arguably the worst stage psychologically: "Oh shit, I have cancer but I have no idea whatsoever about treatment." Take your time. Don't rush into anything. If your doctors give you a choice, then you really do have a choice.
And come back to let us know what happens! Really. We've all been through variations on this exact theme, and we'll be here, listening sympathetically.
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Jill- That sounds great- 2 more to go! Glad you are feeling better. When you are up to it you may want to put some things in the freezer that can be easily reheated or cooked for the next 2 times. Or, if anyone offers to bring food- accept it for the DH and kids.
Not to be Nelly Negative, but I found the SE's to be cumulative and had a bit more difficulty getting back to myself with each one. Your chemo is different from mine and you were in much better shape, too so it may not be the same for you.0 -
Peggy - Glad to hear things are progressing! Good luck with it all! So damn sad about Puffin!!! Awful!
Molly - definitely lots of alternative things help absolutely! Anaphalaxyis? I did have a reaction at one infusion, passed out couldnt breathe...the whole ward went nuts LOL my poor daughter was there was scary. Though no allergic reaction to Chemo. Im 13 weeks post chemo now Molly. Im looking into Restorative Yoga, something Ive never done, but my problems with my back and legs isnt getting any better and Im still waiting for my MO to get back to me. Breast Care nurse said my legs are due to Chemo which Inever knew. Im a Reiki Master too LOL so it all helps

Krissbee - Didnt they redress it?? sounds like as its infected. See if the antibiotics make a difference ina few days otherwise yes Id call Surgeon immediately!
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Happy Hammer - Im actually so HAPPY! as I now only take Panadol-osteo 2 in themorning nothing else, it at least helps me get moving. Mornings are the worst,but exercising doesnt help just makes it worse, so really need to talk to MO of what I can do. Yes Im interested in seeing how the Yoga works, there are people also trained with Breast Cancer Patients here, so am investigating. Being proactive
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MLP - I am laughing....Im actually a Reiki Master, typically I spend my time working on everyone else hahaha!!!
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Peggy - trust your intuition and your gut...you will make the absolute right choice AND I feel DH is with you and guiding you to the right house
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Eleanora - I think we all can identify with you about the support! people as in family, close friends youd expect to be concerned and supportive arent!!! acquaintances turn out to be more in the forefront...no logic. But we all get it!!! take support from those who give it!
614 - Yes my MO did say when I went on it, so I agree I think its a combination of things. I dont see him for a few weeks but have emailed.
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Hello, all. I'm not a big poster (or talker) but I keep up with, and care about, all of you. I just want to chime in about yoga. I did it all through treatment (ok, maybe not for 3 or 4 days after AC -- ugh) and had relatively minor SEs. Of course, I don't know how I would have done without the yoga, but I truly believe it made a huge difference. It also really helps me manage anxiety. There are lots of different types of yoga -- if you try one type and it doesn't do anything for you, try another.0
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Bluedog- so glad to hear from you...do you have one kind of yoga over others that you did and helped?
Mel- again, so sorry about your pain but sounds like you are getting at it with the help of your own experience and hopefully your MO.
Peggy- again, am so glad to hear from you- we worry when you are absent for a few days...know you are busy and that you will find the best house for you...am sad that you do not have DH's opinions outright but am betting he is there with you after so many years- and is helping you maybe in ways you do not even know- to find the best house for your needs now. I think of you often and pray for you as you have been through so many life changes- the BIG ones- in such a short period of time and yet- have put yourself out here for the rest of us....thank you and bless you!
So, DH and I worked in our yard today moving and planting hydrangeas I have babied for over a year and daylilies, etc. Talk about a workout. However, it was just a two hour or so bit of time. Made me so sad to realize I just do not have the stamina I had before BC and treatment.
Have just finished sub training in my school district and already have jobs lined up. There is NO way for me to handle little people for 7 hours in a day- just do not have the stamina to do it in the professional manner I am used to doing for my whole career. What a wake up call for me. So...while I thought I was able to just move on and the bad part was over- it is not- I will re-think all of this once I finish Herceptin infusions (every 3 weeks) end of May and have time this summer to get back to my "new normal".
Wow...the new normal may have to be "newer" than I thought!!
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HappyHammer, once Herceptin is over, you will get back to "normal" faster than you think. Right now, I mainly have watery eyes and nose some, and that's about it. My final Herceptin was 2 or 3 weeks ago. The only thing I feel now is some anxiety that active treatment is done. It was like a safety net that got taken away and now I'm on the tight rope with no net.
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Hello All -
This thread really moves along! It's been a while since I've been on and once again it seems like I will have a lot of reading to catch up. Meanwhile, once again I hope everyone is doing well and any issues are in the process of being resolved. I just have a quick couple of questions this evening and hoping you ladies will be able to provide some insights.
Background: I had surgery on 24 February: bi-lateral lumpectomy and 11 nodes removed. Currently all drains have been removed and all seems to be going fairly well except I still have swelling in my arm, hyper-sensitivity (have neurontin for this), and lack of range of motion in my left arm. I do various stretching exercises throughout the day with my arm. Generally speaking while I've not gotten full range of motion back the stretching will help for a short while. However, if I sit to work on my computer (which is a significant part of my job), sit to read the book on chemo I've been trying to get through, or watch t.v. my arm quickly gets heavy and stiff.
Question: What I'm wondering is how long it was before all swelling went down and you were able to get full range of motion with your arm(s)? Am I just being too impatient? I'd just really like to be able to lift my arm enough by now to successfully shave under it and I'd like it not to feel like my arm is getting stuck to my side all the time. (Btw, at my post-op this past Thursday my surgeon did confirm that I do not have a seroma, so I do know that's not the issue - thankfully!!).
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Awww, Italy- I know about the damn anxiety. I have the runny nose, some joint pain and off and on- the big D- but am really looking forward to seeing what my body is going to do once off all of the meds...except the AI. Again- sorry you are worrying but am hoping we will all be able to let some of that go with each clean mammo that we have...hugs to you!
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Dear BlueDog: It is good to hear from you. I'm glad that the yoga helped.
Dear HH: May will be here before you know it and you will be finished with the Herceptin infusions. Hopefully, your new normal will be wonderful.
Dear ItalyChick: I'm glad that you are finished with your Herceptin infusions. I completely understand the feeling of anxiety that your "safety net" is gone. You may want to go to a support group for breast cancer survivors. We are here for you to get you through this stressful time.
Dear Pinki: I hope that you feel better. I am glad that you just met with your doctor on Thursday. I am giving you hugs and prayers for a quick and speedy recovery and that you get your R.O.M. back asap. I do not have the answers to your questions. Sorry. I did not have lymphedema but maybe that is what you are feeling. ChiSandy may be able to answer your questions. Good luck.
Dear MelClarity: I did not realize that chemo causes problems in your legs. Knowing the etiology of your symptoms is helpful. If some of your pain is caused by the anastrazole then that can be changed. I do not know what can be done regarding the side effects from your chemo. I am thinking about you and praying for your pain to go away. I go for Reike sessions through "Healing Touch Buddies" and it is wonderful. You must help a lot of people with your Reike sessions. I hope you can help yourself with Reike.
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PINK- Sounds like you are doing well....BUT, have you thought about your symptoms being Lymphadema? Does your group have an LE specialist or do they refer out for that? Might be worth getting an eval. I did not have LE so hope others who have will chime in but, it might be worth looking in to! Hugs.
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HappyHammer/614 - I don't think it's lymphedema. It's in areas where my arm had a bruise from handling during surgery and in the small of the "chest" before the underarm (where my scar for my lymph node removal starts). While I've been going to physical therapy using my regular therapist who treats holistically (she does have lymphedema training just not the LE certification), I do have an appointment this Wednesday with a PT that actually has LE certification. So, I'm not totally ruling out that thought, but against surgeon advice I did use ice on the swelling (just at a really reduced amount of time and through my thick jersey) and I do feel like some of the swelling went down. So, that also leads me to think it is just regular swelling.Also, I did meet with both these therapists prior to my surgery and got instruction for managing potential lymphedema and I've been doing those things, so hoping it's not lymphedema.
And, since I mentioned it to my surgeon and he checked for a seroma (and did not mention the lymphedema option) wouldn't that also suggest it's normal swelling?? I don't know . . . I could deal with the swelling (my bra just cuts in on the swelling of the "chest" area) if the range of motion and hypersensitivity weren't issues. These last two annoy me more than the swelling at the moment. The pulling under my underarm when I try to move my arm up or even sideways (like to do small circles) is just painful, annoying, and hard to get past.
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HH and 614, I have a breast MRI scheduled to Friday to check to make sure nothing grew during treatment. Had a brain MRI last week which came back normal, related to some pressure I had in the left side of my head (cancer side) behind my eye radiating down to my ear. I am on an aggressive watch program because I couldn't do radiation due to prior radiation. So if anything grows back, off to mastectomy I go
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Thank you all for your responses about my "schtuff" and also for being here so I can read what you are going through.
I'm not completely alone.
I'll keep on reading and posting . Best to all, Ellie
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Pinki, I think it may be a bit too early to call it lymphedema yet, but it’s smart to learn about how to take precautions and do self-MLD. There’s no rushing the reduction of swelling--it happens on its own time. Ask which range of motion exercises are permissible. When hospitals have LE specialists, they’re usually part of the Physical/Rehab Medicine dept. You can go online to lana.org to find a LANA-certified LE therapist in your area. (My LE doc, Joseph Feldman, is a pioneer in the field and a founder of LANA).
I learned about Puffin’s husband’s catastrophic fall and death over on the “Older Women” thread. Wish she didn’t have the added burden of having to be the personal rep. of Lew’s estate, and could let others be strong for her instead. We have strictly circumscribed mourning requirements in Judaism for the loss of a spouse, parent, child or sibling: a 7-day “shiva” period beginning upon return from the cemetery and lasting (except for the Sabbath) a week. During that time, we are not to cook, bathe or groom (we even have to cover mirrors), seek entertainment, or leave the house--others must bring us food and do our chores. The most observant rend part of their clothing (these days, symbolized by pinning a torn black ribbon to our blouses or shirts), go shoeless, and sit on low uncomfortable benches. We Reform Jews don’t go that far--we sit normally, wash as necessary, and shiva usually lasts 3 days. For the death of a parent or spouse, there is an additional 30 days during which we don’t seek entertainment--but most importantly, are forbidden to make major life decisions such as large purchases, renting, buying or selling a home, moving, changing careers, retirement, etc. Sounds draconian but it’s really designed to help us mourn rather than suppress grief, delineate transition, and to allow others to help. I wonder how people manage to go back to work the day after burying a parent or spouse--the concept is totally alien to me.
Peggy, our house felt like “the one,” even though it was bigger and older than we’d planned to buy and needed lots of repairs (29 yrs. later, still a work in progress). It just spoke to us. Maybe it was the huge kitchen, the deck, the magnolia out back in full bloom, or the arborvitae and big leaf maple out front--or perhaps the garage as well as easy access to transit and shopping w/in walking distance. My only caveat is to consider how you will take care of your shopping and other needed amenities if there comes a time when you can’t drive.
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I did put an offer in on the house that spoke to me. I'm literally 6 minutes from my son. And another couple from shopping. I guess I will have to solve the problem of not driving when the time comes. Where I decide to live, it would be an issue. I'll be exploring the services available to seniors once I get moved in June.
Sandy, my first house spoke to Chuck and me, just as this one did. Molly, you understand that too. Some homes are just worth the aggravation like yours is Sandy. I'm going to be leaving a HUGE magnolia tree behind.

Time to call it a night. I'm up at 2:30 to go to the airport for a very early flight.
Well wishes to all of you.
HUGS!
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