Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?
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Muni, I can relate to hating having to take pills. I do it with reluctance because in the end I want to be as well as I can be. I hope you will get your meds thoroughly checked so that you can get the most from them -- and to think of something for the PTSD. I agree, it has been over-used but so has suffering when one might alleviate things and increase their quality of life. Hard though when your in the middle of so much to always SEE the way. I hope you will be able to find your best middle ground here.
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Perhaps the final step in the healing of all wounds is the discovery of the capacity for compassion, an intuitive knowing that no one is singled out in their suffering, that all living beings are vulnerable to loss, attachment, and limitation.It is only in the presence of compassion that we can show our wounds without diminishing our wholeness. - Rachel Naomi Remen
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Muni- my daughter witnessed her boyfriend accidentally shoot another friend at point blank range. That was 20 years ago and there are still certain triggers (no pun intended) that can set it off- like a truck backfiring. The term PTSD was not used much back at then, and mostly used regarding our returning military, but our shrink knew immediately what it was. Over the next few years, she suffered thru more trauma- losing her godfather (who is the only male she has ever felt safe with) to cancer, the girl from across the street whom she had been friends with since preschool died in a horrific car accident, she was date-raped, and had an abortion. We knew nothing about the rape or abortion till many years later. All these things happened between the ages of 15-17. She, like you, didn't believe that it was a "real" medical problem, and refused any drugs offered by the Dr although she used a lot of "recreational " drugs during that time. Thank God, she did not get addicted to anything
It got so bad, she ended up being home schooled for a quarter of her senior year. It was thru the school system. One teacher met her at the library a few times a week and she took another class on speaker phone. Then she came to me one night and said she couldn't stop the voices in her head, and was afraid she was going to hurt herself or worse to stop them. I begged her to give me 24 hrs and she agreed. I worked with some wonderfully aware administrators in a middle school, and I went into them early the next morning. The first thing they said was to make sure the hospital I took her to knew that it was PTSD, not drugs or alcohol. They kept her for three days, she said she was no longer a threat to herself or others and they sent her home with a referral to a new shrink. She went for about six weeks, bs'd her way thru every session, and then refused to continue going.
It happened again a few years later, with the same results. I believe with all my heart, if she would have taken the help offered years earlier, both medication and talk therapy, she could have saved herself many years of pain and dangerous living. Please find a Dr you trust and get whatever help you need. You may not need meds, or only need them for a short while. I, like you, watched my husband die in our bedroom. I shut down completely although I cried a lot that day- and I am not a crier- and I stayed shut down for at least a year. Thru therapy and meds, I eventually began feeling again, only to be diagnosed 13 months after his death with BC. It is not a sign of weakness to accept help when needed. It is a sign of being able to accept yourself, and knowing that all of us have a breaking point whenT it comes to dealing emotionally. I know that losing a spouse is the #1 most stressful event in our lives. Watching it happen doubles or triples the stress levels. Please know hat you are not alone. Many of us on this thread have faced issues like yours, and we are always here to listen and support.
Anne
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Anne, your kitchen re-do sounds really nice. DH wants me to get new counter tops for our kitchen but I haven't done anything about it. The last time I checked into new countertops, I was told I wouldn't have use of the kitchen for two weeks. Too inconvenient for me. I figure our house will be a tear down when it's sold some time in the future. We have a two-acre lot in an area with a lot of million dollar plus homes. Our house is a simple one-story brick ranch with an updated interior. Of course, the updating happened 20 years ago! It's perfectly comfortable for a retired couple.
Jackie, losing 10 lbs sounds really good to me but being sick is no way to lose weight.
Today I did a friend's federal income tax return on Turbo Tax. She moved to TX years ago and still sends me her tax info. every year.
Best wishes to everyone.
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I am on here late but feeling much better today. Yesterday was still something of a bummer, but I spent two days at the Dr's house while they took their loved one to Wisc. for burial. I kept the dogs. There is no bed on earth as good as your own. I did not rest well there but hey --- until you turn the corner it won't much matter where you are I think. So, last might I went to sleep at 8 p.m. and didn't open my eyes again till 5:30 a.m. In my own bed again was better than any pill too. Ways to go but I made it to the store today and the bank and did my morning chores. All came off pretty good.
I think our taxes will be break even again -- not making enough to have to pay in. That works pretty well for me.
Hope all had a good day. We had warmth and sunshine. Hope for more tomorrow.
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We should so live and labor in our times that what came to us as seed may go to the next generation as blossom, and what came to us as blossom may go to them as fruit.This expresses the true spirit in the love of humankind. - Henry Ward Beecher
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Wow...thank you Illinoislady, Anneb1143 and Chi Sandy for your input.
I am going to take some of this and go with it and use it daily in my life.
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A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: "Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time." When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment and replied, "The one I feed the most."

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Such storms last night and I hope anyone affected made it through. I think some tornados in Missouri and Illinois. We were okay here in south central Illinois. It looks all right outside and I think still fairly warm out. Hoping for a quiet day and praying for those who may have had problems of any kind.
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Hi, I'm wondering how close you live to Danville? My Dad grew up there. We havent been back for a few years, actually 6. Went to see the family homes and cemetery and do some geneology work. Not nearly as nice a town as I remember it, had a shooting or 2 while we were there. They moved a large number of people from the projects in Chicago, from what I've read.
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Danville is about two and a half hours north of where I live. Many yrs. ago people from around here would go north to find work a lot, but nowadays the area 75 miles to the west grew enough to start people going that direction. That is more towards the river and the city of St. Louis, Missouri. When I was first out of school a lot of the younger guys from high school would go a bit farther to Joliet, Illinois to the big Caterpillar plant and work there.
Where I live is a real Podunk so to speak but it feels just right to me. I think there are roughly 13,500 people or so -- maybe a bit less. Our little town puts on big parades every year, hosts an annual Balloon Fest in one of our parks, and a winding trail of Christmas scenes during Christmas. Farmers markets in summer.
Sun has come out. Gray and blustery this a.m. I'm recovering yet from the bronchitis ( oh hurry please ) but did make out some bills and deliver them around town. Hope our rain is over for a bit now.
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Sounds like you live in a nice town. Though I grew up in Chicago, it's now a war zone. So sad to see what were once lovely cities going down hill, like Chicago and even Danville. I know there used to be an auto factory in Danville, don't remember which one , but it's gone. I've become more of a small town person , over the years.
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Chicago is not a “war zone." Yes, there is gang violence—and sometimes innocent victims get caught in the crossfire—in parts of the West and South Sides (and until two gangs pretty much annihilated each other over a protracted “drill rap" social media battle, a small corner of the far northern reaches of Rogers Park), but no more than most large cities. Los Angeles, Detroit, Miami, and the part of Brooklyn where I grew up have just as many if not more shootings. I know it sounds callous to say this, because it implies “black lives don't matter," but the city is essentially two different worlds—with the vast majority of it safe. Bonnets, unless you grew up in those affected parts, you might see a different demographic but you wouldn't see a “war zone" should you revisit.
And after years of declining gun violence in Chicago, the rebound began just after the city & state adjusted its gun laws (and established concealed-carry permits) to conform to the Supreme Court's Heller case; these laxer laws and new permits have allowed "straw purchaser" sales and other illegal means of getting guns into the wrong hands. So the legislature has before it bills to limit sales to be via only federally-registered dealers running background checks with waiting periods, requiring owners to promptly report all gun thefts & losses, and revoking permits of owners who have had too many guns “stolen." (Gangs get their weapons not just by actually stealing them but by purchases from permit-owners who fraudulently report them lost or stolen, as well as from nearby states with laxer laws).
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Yup Sandy I grew up on the South Side and Went to school in Hyde Park. I only know what I read, pretty much on a weekly basis! I was home 6 years ago and any of the neighborhoods I knew we were warned by police at our hotel not to go into! The changes I saw were sad to me!
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Hyde Park is still pretty safe—with the U. of C. all around it, it’s too gentrified for gangs to infiltrate (heck, I can’t afford to buy a house there), and until recently it and the part of neighboring Kenwood where the Obamas lived was very heavily guarded and barricaded (much to the consternation of the neighbors who were detoured on their daily commutes). Englewood, Roseland, Garfield Park, Marquette Park and Lawndale are where most of the violence is occurring on the South Side, and Austin & North Lawndale on the West Side.
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Hi, all
Just got back from my first trip to my DD's new apt in Lake Placid Fl. Views are beautiful - you can see a lake from the front windows and a golf course from the back. As expected, it still looks like they moved in last night, but both kids were thrilled with their new beds. Gave DD some suggestions on how to arrange bedrooms for maximum floor space.This kitchen remodel is harder than I thought- we've gotten two estimates so far. One for under $7000, the other for over $18,000. Cheaper one is with quartz countertops, but says we have to get rid of little shelves at one end of cabinets, and had no samples of cabinet styles or finishes. Expensive one has granite countertops but again, very limited choices. I have 2 more places coming out- the place that put in the kitchen we currently have, the other is Home Depot. And my brother and I are planning to go to some kitchen showplaces to have more choices. My stupid sciatica nerve is making everything so much harder then it should be. Sometimes I'm fine, but if I sit for a while or just move a little differently, the pain is incredible. I have to grab the walls or furniture to stay upright. It wakes me up at night too. I missed my chiropractic appt today, but go to the Dr tomorrow. I really don't think it has gotten any better at all. Thank God for Percocet and Advil. I usually only take them once a day, and only take 1/4 to 1/2 Percocet, then another dose if I can't sleep.
Anne
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Ah, a view of a golf course! So DD isn’t as far “off the grid” as you’d feared. Where there’s golf, there’s a clubhouse…and perhaps members who have small kids.
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Greatness is not found in possessions, power, position, or prestige. It is discovered in goodness, humility, service, and character.
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Sandy- yes, in someways it is MUCH better than anticipated, in others, not so much. She is in a four plex, then there is another apartment building across the road, but no other apartments in sight. There are some beautiful single family houses across the street on the lake. Her building looks out of place and is dated. My brother has to go home for a week later this month, and, if my sciatica is under control, I may go up and put the rooms together. It could be a very cute home- tight, but nice.
Anne
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Hello all! Been offline a few days here and catching up on you all. Sorry about all the sickness but glad you are all getting better. I've had my own fevers, sick stomach and sore throat problems on top of December heart attack woes. I am still on strict orders for rest and no exercise until around June to let my new meds help with strengthening my heart muscle. CHF l guess and apparently a genetic problem existed before my episode of Broken Heart Syndrome. But thankfully I have felt better the past couple of days than I have felt in a few years. I am even thinking of getting back to my knitting and spinning wheel hobbies which I love dearly. Crazy weather lately with the tornadoes and now cold sunshine. We weren't hit here but some damages occurred close within 10 miles of us. Have a good day everyone and welcome to any newbies
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Sally, en route to Folk Alliance when it was in Memphis and I was on a low-carb (mostly carnivorous) diet, I used to stop by a little BBQ, “BJ’s,” located in a BP station (smoker out back) in or near New Madrid. Haven’t been out that way since 2013. Is it still there? (Not that as a heart patient you could safely eat that stuff any more).
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SandyYes it is still in business. Although I dont go there myself a lot of my friends do. And you are right I am not supposed to eat that. I mostly boil or bake all my food. But I am a veggie eater. I love vegetables and fruits. I can do without meat most of the time. Our town is right at the edge of I55. Its strange when you think about all our lives coming close to each other from time to time even though we live so far apart. I really enjoy your posts and everyone else's posts too. I read them all and try to add my 2 cents worth now and then
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Hi to my oldies friends. Anne, the new home for your daughter and grands sounds nice. And surprisingly conventional.
Chicago is one of the unique American cities. I love visiting the downtown. Unfortunately, most of our visits through the years took us to the suburbs. The many small towns still retain some historic neighborhoods.
I picked up my new glasses at Walmart yesterday. Put them on and looked out into the store. WOW! Everything was crystal clear. I bought clip-on sunglasses and have begun wearing the glasses for driving. My vision is "legal" for driving but much sharper with the correction
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Among the suburbs, LaGrange, Hinsdale, Evanston, and Oak Park have long histories, some as old as Chicago itself. Oak Park is the location of Frank Lloyd Wright’s home & studio—the village itself was his gallery.
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I trained in Evanston and my Mom came from Wilmette. But I grew up on the South side.
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I was born in Evanston. But it probably doesn't count since we moved to California when I was 5 years old.
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Evanston’s less than 2 mi. n. of me. Our son Gordy went to school there (grades 1-12, Roycemore) and both of us took bass lessons there (and I also studied guitar and taught dulcimer there). He studied at Piven Theater Workshop for 8 yrs (3 of them in the Young People’s Company). Until we got a Whole Foods of our own, we grocery-shopped there. I bought my car there. We went to the Rose Bowl when it was Northwestern’s year. I get my cancer care and Bob his GI care there. When he was little, Gordy asked me “Mom, do we live in Evanston or Chicago?” I replied, “Evanston, but we sleep in Chicago."
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LOL Sandy!!!
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Sandy, Evanston Hospital was and I imagine still is a wonderful hos[ital. Loved being near the lake. Cud walk to the house where my Mom was born. Love to eat at Walker Bros! Difference between the 2 ends of the L. Last time I was there , don't think it even ran all the way to Stoney Island on the south side .
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At Evanston Hospital or St. Frances. I was in training at Evanston in the 60's!
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