Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • wallycat
    wallycat Posts: 1,861

    My DH developed shingles within a year of his cancer dx. It was on his face, near the eye and they put him on acyclovir right away but also gave him the shingles vaccine (he'd had the original one; then got the newer one). He was in full shingles when they did the vaccine…odd ..??

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    wallycat, I think because he was on acyclovir (anti-viral) and where the lesions were located. Shingles near the eye can cause blindness. The old vaccine was not as good as the current one, but given when it was introduced, it was better than nothing. Questions, did he receive the old vaccine before he developed cancer and did he receive chemo as treatment for his cancer?

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    carole, using an instant pot to cook corned beef uses less water for cooking and could account for why your corned beef was saltier. I always boil mine and you can soak and rinse it several times prior to cooking to further reduce the salt content. I love corned beef and while we usually don't have it more than twice a year (St. Patrick's being the biggie), I don't think I have ever found it to be salty. Hate to say it, but combine it with any alcoholic beverage and you have 2 causes for water retention.

    Dinner last night was good and we have enough left over for another meal for us. DD and DSIL loved it and cleaned up the dishes for me. Said they would come anytime I offered them a home cooked meal, lol. Potatoes did not brown as much as I like, but it may be because I used convection roast setting rather than just roast. I won't do that again. Normally they get very crispy exteriors and soft interiors. We will have leftovers for dinner for the next 3 nights since I have leftover cottage pie, orange chicken and now the pork roast.

    Got a light dusting of snow overnight so the driveway is again coated. With temperatures in the low 30's but a chill factor in the high teens, DH has to wait to take his car down to the front now. We have had to shovel more in the last 3 weeks than we have in the last year or more.

    Linen closet is on the radar for today, since DH has other projects to focus on. Again, I will do one shelf at a time and then decide to do more if I still have time. I need to sort through things, and keep or donate since there is little in there that would require trashing. I want to use bins where I can and label them with contents. I need to get the label maker out and make sure the batteries are okay.

    DDIL had requested a membership to the local Y for herself and DGD for Christmas. I told her we would gift her a 3 month membership based on the new membership fee and monthly fee. She sent me an email today to say they waived the membership fee if you join now, and have a promotional fee for the month of January, which is only $26. So I will sent her a check to cover for February, March and April. I offered to also pay for January, but she declined. They like to swim and use the track, plus DGD horned in so he can play basketball. She got the family package, so he's included as a plus one.

    They will have a judging competition for the string bands at a later, as yet unannounced, date. Winds were so strong yesterday morning that 5 people were sent to the hospital for injuries incurred when they were trying to save the large display panels they erect behind the bands. The panels, themselves. also sustained damages. They usually serve to support the theme each band has chosen for the year and can be quite elaborate in detail, scope and size, which is why they have "marshalls", who are the guys erecting these and carrying them for blocks, after the judging area display. If you are interested, they do have Youtube videos of some past parades.

    Guess that's about it for now, hope everyone has a great day. Waving "hi" to everyone. Stay warm and safe.

  • wallycat
    wallycat Posts: 1,861
    edited January 2

    Betrayal, he was in his 60s when he got the first vaccine (we were still living in Wisconsin). Cancer at 79. No chemo yet. Yes, that was my concern with the location—blindness, blah, blah…they gave him the shot even before we left to pick up the antiviral. Seems like eons ago. Sigh. Started the antivirals and 2 weeks later, got his updated second shot.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    wallycat, cancer is an immunosuppressant. Some cancers are more serious than others as far as being immunosuppressants, but the bottom line is an aberrant cell is the causation of any form of cancer. So the decision to give your DH the vaccine was based on that, and warranted. The other concern with head involvement is the potential for invading sinuses and the brain.

    I can remember a cancer patient, who was on chemo, developing chicken pox again since his immune system was literally wiped out. He had been exposed by his young daughter. He had the worse case of chicken pox (not shingles) I have ever seen. Shingles follows nerve paths in dermatomes, whereas chicken pox is unchecked and covers entire body. He was one miserable human being and on heavy pain meds to help.

    We also had a guy, in his 40's, who developed a severe sunburn (no sunscreen use) and then developed shingles on his face, neck and left arm. He was in agony. Unfortunately for him this was many years before they developed the vaccine.

    I finished the linen closet and have a large pile of donations for a charity. I was just going to do another shelf, but decided to start the next one after and that led to why not finish. I wiped down the small storage containers, changed what was stored in them, and then cleaned the floor before putting anything back. I'll do another sweep in 6 months to see what hasn't been used or needed and then another purge if indicated. It looks so organized. I did use some bins. I found two wooden blinds I plan to have DB install in the guest room windows. I have them in the other 2 bedrooms. I just need to find mounting brackets so he can install them. We get so much more sun in the summer now that we had to remove some large trees that were a potential danger to the house. I close the blinds to keep the house cooler. Also the neighbors behind us have outside lights that they leave on all night that are quite bright. Our houses are not that close, so for them to light up a room in my house means they are piercing.

    Time to get dinner started.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,121

    Thanks so much for the information on shingles, Betrayal. My brother told me he developed the rash after he got home. He's only in his early 60's but he has a stressful job. He said the pain is so severe that he is taking a pain med the doctor prescribed.

    The string bands sound really interesting. I'll look up a UTube performance.

    Wally, I'm shaking my head over your dh's having had shingles, considering all that he has been going through the last few years. And is going through at the present.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    Humor is something that thrives between man's aspirations and his limitations. There is more logic in humor than in anything else. Because, you see, humor is truth.

    Victor Borge

  • cindyny
    cindyny Posts: 1,613

    My guests came home to my house last evening. They stayed at the beach for the sunset. The grand niece took off as soon as we came in, to stay overnight at our neighbors. The older she is the less I see her. LOL

    Today was 74 and full sun, so off to the pool we all went. Beautiful, restful, and surprisingly not crowded. I think a lot of guests have already left for home.

    Tonight we’re headed out soon for an early dinner. It’s the restaurant where the car died last visit. I’m taking the newer car today. Going early because we need to be up early to take them to the airport tomorrow morning - leaving here at 5:30 AM. They’ll be back home in NY before 11 AM. I hope I’m back to sleep before 6:45 AM! It will be dark out when we drop them off.

    Nothing special planned for tomorrow. Laundry and stripping the bed. Maybe put presents away. Watch some football, and eat leftovers.

    Enjoy the weekend!

  • cindyny
    cindyny Posts: 1,613

    I’m up with the chickens…

    Dinner last night was delicious! We all had something different. A crab stuffed ravioli with shrimp in a carbonara; crab stuffed chicken breast; chicken parm for me; spaghetti and meatballs with no sauce, just butter & cheese for my grandniece.

    The moon was spectacular as we drove home from the restaurant.

    Alarm set for 5:10 AM. A lot of rain last night, we need it desperately, so this morning the moon is hidden behind fog & clouds. Sun coming up now.

    I’ve got laundry going, and I want to set off the robot vacuum too. I’ll strip the bedroom and bathroom at some point today. Right now I’m not sure if I’m going back to sleep, or will nap later.

    Lots of football on today. Enjoy your Sunday!

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    Almost all wars, perhaps all, are trade wars connected with some material interest. They are always disguised as sacred wars, made in the name of God, or civilization or progress. But all of them, or almost all of the wars, have been trade wars.

    Eduardo Galeano

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    Spent the morning working on some new genealogical leads. Yesterday my cousin called to thank me for the card I wrote to him after I found out both of his sisters died in 2025. I was researching the one after her Christmas card was returned to me, and discovered her sister's obituary which listed her as deceased. No one thought to let me know the cousin I had kept in loose touch with had died in February. Her older sister died in December 2025 and I had not heard from her in many years. We spent nearly an hour on the phone and initially, he was very choked up about his sisters deaths as was I. Then we got talking about family memories we shared, given he was the oldest of my cousins, and the sister I was closest to was the youngest. So I explored the leads he provided and spent the day chasing bright, shiny objects. Still, sometimes they reveal new leads, so I don't always consider them a waste of time.

    After I quit, I took a quick shower and DH and I went through his dresser drawers culling, discarding and donating excess clothing items. The man has a fixation with socks (I will not list all the categories he has) and we just bought 2-8 packs which he really did not need. He ended up with a drawer he can use for summer shorts, organized socks in just one drawer and his over the door shoe hanger which he uses for yardwork socks (don't ask) is now half empty. We went through outdoor shorts and tee shirts he uses for yard work, summer pj's, and the summer dress shorts mentioned above and rehomed to a drawer. We still have dress summer shirts to sort through, but that was enough for today. He is also donating all the extra plastic hangers we have left over.

    The plumber was supposed to come today. He called yesterday and asked if he could some later in the day providing a tentative time. He texted later to let me know the one job was running over, and did I still want him to come? Of course, it was okay for me and he showed after 5 PM. He used his industrial snake and was able to unblock the toilet! Yeah! So now the primary bathroom is available again. His rate was a bit more than I expected, but I willing paid it to have a functional toilet and he cleaned up after himself. He was highly rated on Nextdoor by other users and I have to agree with how professional he was, he was also personable, and had to walk up my driveway (carrying the heavy snake) because I had warned him one section was still icy. He thanked me for the warning and decided not to try to drive his pickup up. He asked if the sink and tub were draining and I told him there was not issue with them. I did give him a thumbs up on Nextdoor as well.

    DH has a large box of donation items almost ready to go. He has some socks to wash and then they can go in the box as well. I have a large bag of items from the linen closet that can go as well. I still have the closet in my DD's old room to go through. I think I'll call the Vietnam Vets when we are done because they will pickup at the house. The linen closet looks so good.

    I now need to run the vacuum and dust in the rooms we have worked in because they have been somewhat neglected. The guest room was piled in clothes on the bed while the closet was being repaired and then organized. DH had used DD's room as a satellite storage, too. I'll start in the guest room, and once I am done in DD's room, will do that one, too. DH can dust and vacuum his room. We'll start to put the Christmas decorations away after the 6th.

    It has been bitter cold, so I have been more or less hibernating. I do have 2 doctor's appointments this week, so I am hoping for some warmer days. It's been gray as well and that's a downer.

    I hope everyone had a great day and waving "hi" to everyone.

  • 1946taco
    1946taco Posts: 393

    A belated Happy New Year.

    Betrayal, loved the info about the mummers. A fun tradition here at the Fiesta Bowl Parade is the participation of the "play it again, band." People from all over the state sign up and the music is sent ahead. After one afternoon of practice, they go and play the whole route. DH learned to play the trumpet after he retired and participated for several years. It got to be too hard. After all the marching, he had to get back to his car. But the crowds always gave them great support even though they weren't nearly as good as the college bands. There is probably a tee shirt or two sitting somewhere.

    We've had both the old and the new shingles shots. I remember how miserable my mother was when she got them.

    Carole, can you share more about the "black eyed peas" tradition. We were talking about it just the other day but we are definitely northerners. I know I can look it up on Wikipedia but would appreciate your interpretation.

    My folks always made Cornish hens on New Year's Day and DS has continued the tradition but we haven't. We went to the party at our club but left early. The last time we made it to midnight was 2000. Do you remember we unplugged stuff, stored water, and got extra cash?

    Rain over New Year's but lovely this weekend. Usually in the high 60's/low 70's when I golf. Now listening to the local newsperson saying more rain and cooler temps by mid-week.

    I'm collecting pictures from family members for my Story project. My nephew sent me one of my parents at a beach in a very sexy pose. Loved it! I don't remember ever seeing it.

    Have a good week, everyone. Extra hugs for those who are hurting.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,121

    Taco, New Year's Day fare in this area features cabbage and black-eyed peas. All the supermarkets will have big bins of cabbage and displays of Camellia brand dry black-eyed peas. Also canned black-eyed peas. This meal is for health and prosperity. My father made his own interpretation. Cabbage was for paper money and black-eyed peas for coins. He wasn't a fan of black-eyed peas so my mother usually cooked cabbage. All vegetables my mother cooked included a seasoning meat, like bacon, ham, sausage, smoked ham hocks. She kept bacon fat for seasoning. My father had heart disease but she had low cholesterol and triglycerides. Genes.

    I know that some southern states have greens, like collard greens, at New Year's. One popular black-eyed peas dish is Hoppin' John. The peas and rice and a seasoning meat are cooked together. I think this dish is popular in the Carolinas. One of our cooks on the What's For Dinner? thread makes Hoppin' John.

    Your winter temperatures sound ideal for golf.

    Betrayal, dh and I sometimes watch the PBS show where celebrities learn about their ancestors. DH had a relative who did ancestor research and sent everyone in the family information and copies of photos. I have all that in a file.

    It's in the 50's outside. I just heard a meteorologist on tv say the rest of our week will be warm and humid. This weekend there will be a threat of storms. This time of year we have a lot of fog.

    Happy Monday.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    Whenever people are confronted by a prediction for the future that they simply cannot or will not believe, they always say, 'It will never happen in my lifetime.' If the prediction is something they deplore and fear, they say it with calculated bravado, often adding a smug, snorty hhrrummph.

    Florence King

  • harley07
    harley07 Posts: 598

    Chris - sorry to hear that another hand surgery is required but hopefully this will allow better use of your hands.

    Betrayal - I love hearing about your genealogy - you are quite the detective and clearly have a mind for details.

    Interesting comments regarding shingles. I had the Shingrix vaccine (2 dose) in 2019. I realize that it does not offer 100% immunity but after seeing a co-worker and my brother deal with the agony I am willing to do whatever I can to lessen my risk.

    Good to hear from you Taco and Carole. I woke up to low 40’s and sun which is practically spring like weather for January in my area. We headed to a park for a hike. Only saw 2-3 other folks which was a little surprising however, school resumed today and I imagine most folks have gone back to work after the holidays. Expecting quite a bit of rain/freezing drizzle or snow (depending on temperatures) later this week.

    Wishing all a good week.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,121

    When I got to the gym yesterday about 11 am, I knew it was January. All those New Year's resolutions kicking in. The parking lot offered no parking where I usually find a place with a short walk to the entrance. Also, school must still be out because there were teenagers around. I skipped the senior exercise class and did a workout on the weight machines and 15 minutes on the upright bike. I plan to do that regularly because the class doesn't provide enough exercise with weights. I had a cramp in my upper inner thigh during the night last night that told me that muscle had gotten some exercise. I also had a full hour of deep sleep.

    Chris, you have my curiosity aroused. That's a technique of a good writer to drop a "hook" at the end of a chapter. Good luck with your hand surgery. Hands are so important.

    Today I have an appointment to get my hair trimmed, and does it ever need a trim. I missed my appointment a couple of weeks ago. I saw a woman at the gym yesterday with a hairstyle I liked. She has gray hair but her hair isn't as thick as mine and seems to be straight. The style probably wouldn't work for me.

    Today will be sunny and warm. No sweaters or jackets needed.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.

    Khalil Gibran

  • cindyny
    cindyny Posts: 1,613

    Carole , we record Finding your Roots on PBS. We enjoy the stories of people’s past and how far they’ve come. I also need a hair cut. Not sure by who or when!

    Chris, we need our hands to move without lingering pain. Sorry you’re facing more surgery.

    Taco, I haven’t had a Cornish hen in a long time. My exMIL always made them. And yes, I remember Y2K! We were ready haha. As for photos, my sister is in charge. She received our mom’s cedar chest full of old photos.

    Harley, I attempted a walk today and returned home quickly, to peel off wet shorts & top, to throw on a night shirt and turn on ceiling fans. It was 79 with full sun. My own fault, I should have been out earlier. Glad you were able to enjoy your outing.

    Petite, oh so glad you were kept warm inside with 17 degree temps outside! Water issues, I think you’ll figure out what needs doing. Back in FL it’s sad you’re dealing with 2 cleared lots, one on each side of you. Definitely invest in the blinds. I’ve been ordering online from some custom blind company.

    Betrayal, as always you’re busier than a bee.

    Yesterday I went to the oral surgeon to see if I qualify for an implant. I brought my CT scan from the endodontist, and my panoramic X-ray from the NY oral surgeon. This saved me money! The visit cost me nothing. I’m scheduled for the surgery on 1/28. I’m hopeful she can do the abutment at the same time as the screw - or I’ll need another appointment for that, and an additional $250. Max out of pocket should be $3,200 which I’m ok with.

    For the crown that goes on the abutment, I’ll see my dentist in NY. I was going to try and get it while I’m still down here (FL) but figured I’d be doing it in a rush. Back in NY if I have any issues with my bite, the dentist is around the corner. And any delays, I won’t be forced to stay here vs go home.

    Tonight we have a birthday dinner to attend. A neighbor & her husband share the same birthday. It should be fun.

    Another couple we hang with booked 4 tickets for next week for us to see “Some Like it Hot.”

    We also looked at the spring training schedule and picked which ones we’ll try to get tickets to. The box office at the stadium opens on Friday. So we’re ready! Fingers crossed.

    That’s it! I hope you all have a great week.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762
  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    The Lord gave us two ends - one to sit on and the other to think with. Success depends on which one we use the most.

    Ann Landers

  • mcbaker
    mcbaker Posts: 2,133

    Weather is above 32 today, so I biked downtown. First stop was the library, where I printed directions for felted mittens. Then the pharmacy, where I gave them my insurance cards for updating. Then the beauty shop for a bang trim (I will grow it out to brushing the shoulders). Then the bank for some cash. I took Tippy out for a walk before I left. I got back, and he was telling me "snow. walk. potty. snow. snow" He likes to play in the snow. Even "cold" means something good. Rolling eyes. I am getting ready to knit some mittens which I will then felt down to my size. Hopefully I will get them done by Feb 22.

    I was sure you wouldn't make it back until after the barshow, Sandy. Hopefuly the cast will be well enough to be able to do it well. Sounds like that too much Zeppy made you pretty sick.

    Petite, hopefully when all is done you will be able to get used to the changes around your property in Florida. Otherwise you can sell it for a good price and live at your NC retreat.

  • 1946taco
    1946taco Posts: 393

    Carole - thanks for the info on the New Year's traditions. I knew people made black eyed peas but never heard of the cabbage.

    Moving to AZ where almost everyone in our senior community is from somewhere else has really made me aware of small regional variations. My Indiana friends make a pie I never heard of and now can't remember the name and the Michigan and Minn. folks play Ochre which we never did in Illinois. They tried to teach me but I was a miserable failure at it because I play so much bridge and couldn't make the transition.

    We never did luminaries in the snow but many here light them Christmas Eve. Especially when we first moved here, one of the service clubs made a lot of money selling bags of sand and a small candle. For years, my DD talked about assembling the kits. Now they are frequently electric.

    Chris - sorry that sewing is irritating your other hand. I would think the knitting would too. I had to give up doing needlepoint because of my carpet tunnel. I can't imagine Mutz enjoying the snow. He hates the rain.

    Petite - sounds like your plate is still overflowing. Take care of yourself.

    January seems to contain a lot of "things delayed." We both have doctors and dentists appointments and my car goes in next week, hopefully only for an oil change but it's passed the 40,000 mile mark so who knows.

    Book club read "My Friends" by Frederick Backman. I highly recommend it. I seldom find a book that both makes me laugh and cry.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    There is a sacredness in tears. They are not the mark of weakness, but of power. They speak more eloquently than ten thousand tongues. They are the messengers of overwhelming grief, of deep contrition, and of unspeakable love.

    Washington Irving

  • betrayal
    betrayal Posts: 5,762

    Decided to make a run to IKEA yesterday afternoon to look around and get a Swedish meatball fix. The meatball meal used to be so much better when we first shopped at IKEA, when it was the meatballs, small red potatoes, gravy, lingonberry sauce and a small side salad with gorgonzola salad dressing. After many iterations over the years including a salad or soup bar, it is now meatballs, mashed potatoes, peas, gravy and lingonberry sauce. DH opted for the lemon garlic baked cod, instead of the meatballs, and we had the frozen yogurt cone on our way out.

    I was just going to look, but that didn't last long. We walked through the furniture area to see the new stock as well as the artful displays they have now. Our target is usually the marketplace section where they have the kitchen, bedding, lighting, plants and organization stock. I wandered around the kitchen section and found a new cast iron grill pan to replace the one I had tossed. The old one had a nonstick coating and I decided I no longer wanted any nonstick pans, and black plastic kitchen tools given the concerns about their shedding particles. I have many cast iron frying pans from my mother and ones I have bought over the years and prefer them for cooking and baking (yes, I do my pineapple upside down cake in it). I just hadn't seen one that had the grill bumps for meats that was also deep. It is currently in the oven being "seasoned". I also picked up some new cutting boards and tossed my old ones on my return home. They no longer have the colored ones which I preferred, so I used a Sharpie to make them for meats, chicken, and vegetables/etc.

    There was a plea on NextDoor from a local charity for pots and pans for those just starting a new life. I found a pot set that has 3 pots and 2 lids for a reasonable price, a mesh strainer, a cutting board, and a 34 piece food storage container set. It has 17 containers with lids and it was on sale. This will be my first charitable contribution for 2026. I can remember what it was like when I got my first apartment and had no money. My roommate and I "borrowed" flatware from the hospital cafeteria to use until we could purchase our own set. We used to laugh about how it was "engraved" with the hospital's initials and make up funny names to explain them. Our decor was all donated and would be what I would describe as early Goodwill or Salvatian Army given they were all things no one else wanted.

    I also picked up some storage bags which are just the right size for blankets. A large plastic bin with a lid to replace the hyacinth grass woven basket I used for paper storage in the kitchen area. Misty was using it as a nail sharpener, in spite of the cardboard one right next to it. I need to better organize it since it contains some genealogy research I keep close by, and other resources I like to keep here, instead of in my file cabinet in the basement office. It looks like it will be too large for where I wanted it so I will have to rearrange that shelf on the baker's rack. The smaller one would not hold 8 x 11 papers. I like it has a lid that is wooden and removable. I also found some artificial plants I could use on an old 4 shelf plant stand that was my mother's. The living room doesn't get enough light to keep real ones alive. I bought 2 hanging ones and 2 others. I found what they called metal candle holders on my way to checkout and they just fit the plant pots perfectly, plus the price was right.

    I bought a small rug to place at the patio slider opening to catch what's on shoes when people use this access. I need to make it smaller to fit so I have already removed the hems it came with and will reconfigure it, sew it to fit by doubling it to make it a bit thicker. So with nothing on my list when I went there, I did leave with quite a haul.

    DS is sending photos of his bathroom replacement on a daily basis. He had to buy the new contents and 2 guys have stripped the old contents. They have already installed the new tub/shower combo, drywalled where needed, and installed the new flooring. They said it would take 7 days to complete. He is pleased with their work and the pace.

    Chris, I hope you get some relief for your left hand. Hand pain is so difficult to deal with because of the need to use them for ADL's and creative ventures.

    petite1, I hope your new neighbors are pleasant and their houses increase the value of yours. I also hope you can get a solution for your issues at your new cabin. As Gilda Radner, used to say, "It's always something".

    Sandy, thanks for sharing your experience with Zepbound. I guess your doctor learned something, too. I hope your show goes well and as they say " break a leg". I admire your singing and musical abilities. I have neither and have always been in envy of those that could.

    Taco, enjoy your nice weather. We have had a slew of bad weather with unseasonable temperatures, too much snow this early in the season and too many gray days.

    cindyny, you are as busy as ever and seem to be in a real party mode. Lucky you.

    Carole, sounds like your weather is improving and loved your feedback on the quote. I find I am using the top one for genealogy and the bottom one for sitting while I do it, so trying to do both, lol.

    harley07, I like mystery novels and I think that is one attraction to genealogy, solving of the past. I found that relatives were willing to discuss happy times, but not all of life's challenges and that is all uncovered during my research. Of course, they are no longer here to ask questions of, and even those who are, are reluctant to discuss certain things. It's the mystique.

    Waving "hi" to anyone I may have forgotten and hope everyone has a great day. I need to get to laundry, which I skipped yesterday.