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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    Pessimists see only the dark side of the clouds, and mope;
     philosophers see both sides, and shrug; optimists
     don't see the clouds at all--they're walking on them.

     Leonard Louis Levinson

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    Good morning,

    It's a cool one here -- in the 50's.  Will only warm to 70 maybe, but that is ok.  Typical early Fall day.  As we haven't had a frost yet all of our leaves are yellowish/gold.  The hardest frost produces those beautiful red leaves but so far we are doing without and I don't know how many of the red we will see this year. 

    Linda, I so like your idea of allowing ( something we all should do  I imagine ) a certain amt. of time to be mopey, irritable, out of sorts ( oh if only we could package good sorts, huh !!! ) and then turn it off at a certain time --- find those boot-straps and pull, pull, pull.  There are so many things to deal with in life and sometimes the worst ones are not necessarily the ones that get you.  Anytime there is a real crisis -- we rise to the occasion, but so hard to rise when their is something that is not so bad but way too persistent and consistent.  Like your houseguest. 

    I tend to feel that the people who seem to easily cause negative feelings in me are the ones I really HAVE to grow over --- but it is rather constant work to try and learn the lesson of why am I feeling what I do about it all.  I probably said before that sometimes when I let it go ( so hard to do ) the answer to it all sneaks in and just seems to turn up in my awareness.  I have learned the lesson over long and painful times while I inadvertently TRIED far too hard.  It is easy to feel that we have gone through so much and have been so capable about so much ( we are after all mothers, sisters, aunts, etc. ) that we can deal with certain things.  Admitting that it is a personal enigma comes hard.  I sure hope that soon your awareness will surprise you with an answer that will work well for you. 

    Carole, I talked to Cammie and Chevy yesterday and they say they are going to pop in here soon.  Sure hope so.  I really miss them. 

    Reading about the terrible mudslides on Hwy. 5 ( a much, much used major highway ) in California.  That highway takes you up into the foothills of the Sierra's and starts a real accent around Bakersfield -- that stretch of highway is called the Grapevine.  It is the one we used when we went to visit my Mom and Dad who at the time lived in Tollhouse, Calif.  That is just a few miles out of Fresno.   California has had such drought conditions and true to form with all the fires and loss of vegetation the rain that finally came could not soak in. 

    Saying hi to everyone and hoping you have a fantastic Saturday.  I'll be back later on.  See you all then.

    Blessings,

    Jackie

  • anneb1149
    anneb1149 Posts: 821
    edited October 2015

    Good morning,

    Sorry to say we did not close on the house yesterday. Someone (we know who and he apologized profusely) changed the amount on the mortgage from $130G to $120G's. That threw everything off. Suddenly, my SIL had to pay $1800 at closing, and my check would only be $2000 instead of $9000, which I am giving to them anyway so they can make some needed repairs. The end result of the closing will simply be that they own the house, not me, which was the plan from day one anyway. The closing was set for 1:00 yesterday and Nancy was a wreck because they couldn't reach Jeff who was the one who created the whole deal. Turns out, he was in the middle of giving a speech somewhere. He says he couldn't stop the speech to see why his phone was blowing up with texts, he just prayed his family was okay. As soon as he could, he called Nancy and immediately told her it was hismistake. The closing is now set for Thurs at 11. I tried to calm Nancy down by telling her there was no reason to panic - they didn't need the money to close on another house and nobody was waiting to move in. This is merely paperwork, and unless we are all happy with the deal, we don't do it. And if we can't do it this visit (I leave next Sat), we'll do it when I return in Dec.

    Meanwhile, I think you all know what a pushover I am when it comes to my kids. I lend them my car pretty much whenever they ask. Nancy, in fact, uses my car the whole time I am not in Ga. I am not sure if you know we have a young college student living with us right now in Fl. She and her sister were raised in foster care, and Rob got very close to them when they came to his summer camp, starting when they were 11 and 12 and has become their "big brother", "mentor", "surrogate father" etc. So when Becca needed a place to stay while attending college this year, we took her in. It is working out fine, except last night she called to see if she could use my car to go to Orlando this weekend. Luckily, my daughter gave me a heads up, and when I asked her why Becca needed my car, Tracy said just because it's bigger and nicer. So when she called, I told her I had already told my youngest daughter she could use it Sun. Becca has a perfectly nice car of her own to use. And being the age she is, I can only assume a trip to DisneyWorld includes drinking and partying. She is probably going to be upset when I let my son take my car to come to Ga for Thanksgivng. But that's my choice because I want to switch the cars and he's available to do it.

    No big plaNs for the weekend- hope you all have a good one

    Anne

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    Anne, you are so right about the "closings" and how they work.  In fact, sometimes you'd think the huge amt. of paperwork and details that it takes to do any sales would have a huge dampening effect on everyone.  I got a real estate license several yrs. ago --- after all my 6 mos. of chemo and rads were done.  I was in some ways ( no chemo brain actually ) a mental wreck and I thought if I went ahead and attempted to get a license -- not only would I know I was much better off than I thought, I'd also have a great profession  in my little one-horse town.

    Turns out that I fairly easily ( though it is a rigorous test ) passed my test -- only having to take one section over, but I didn't like the job at all once I began to actually do it.  You may as well have a phone glued permanently to your head because you will be using it constantly -- even when your out in the middle of showing property.  Suffice it to say there are a million details and so many of them can upset a sale or at least cause a lot of "soothing" to buyer and seller that end up taking place.  It takes a lot of 'SHARPNESS' by a managing broker ( supports all the realtors in their office ) to catch the problems ( often monetary ) in the 'final' sales contracts to be signed day of closing.

    Hopefully, this small hitch will resolve quickly now and all will be fine.

    Anne, you are a push-over for your kids, but also their rock ( steadying influence ) and you seemed to have traversed a somewhat delicate balance in helping them accomplish w/o total reliance on you. Most of us do what we can for our kids and only sometimes does it not work out so well in the end.  There are far more difficulties now than when we all started out.  I think I benefitted greatly when I left home always sensing that I had to do the best I could to survive, but knowing in my heart a part of the rug was still touching my feet.  Nowadays I think it is so difficult more rug is left in place.  I think you are REALLY do the right thing in Becca's case.  She is your once removed so to speak and providing her a car shouldn't turn up on your long list at all.  Just being my mouthy opinionated self. 

    Jackie 

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,009
    edited October 2015

    Frankly, I think Becca has a lot of nerve, asking to borrow your car, Anne, when she has one of her own. She should be grateful that you're giving her a place to stay and she shouldn't be trying to take advantage of you.

    Jackie, I earned a real estate license many years ago and did not ever use it. Real estate involves far more work and time than many people realize.

    It's a lovely day here. Windows and door are open and no a/c humming. I went to a farmers' market this morning and spent quite a bit of $$ on veggies, some home-made feta cheese and a container of a spread called skordalia, characterized by the seller as an "ancient Greek garlic aioli." I think the sign by that booth said there were no carbs in the skordalia but I just looked up recipes and they all had a potato base, which doesn't jive with low carb. Oh, well, the container is only about a cup and you use just a little of the spread because it's very strong with a garlic taste. I put some of it in a chicken salad I made today.

    I'm glad you talked to Cammi, Jackie. Evidently she is doing ok but just doesn't post here any more. I think Chevy gets bored with us, and I guess I can't blame her!

    Dh and I have season tickets to the Abita Opry and there's a performance tonight. So we'll have to go and will miss the Cubs game. We'll have our cell phones and can check the score.

    Happy Saturday.

  • termite
    termite Posts: 238
    edited October 2015

    hi ladies,

    Hope everyone is having a great weekend. Two of our gd just left. We watched them today while their parents worked. We have not closed on the house. The buyers had an inspection done last week and we have not heard anything yet. They are a nice young couple with a set of 4 month old twins. I had to go for a cat scan since I was spitting up blood when coughing. Results today was a small unspecific nodule in the upper right lung. Now I have to see a pulmonary doctor. I am suppose to leave for florida next Thursday. Boy am I scared but do not want to let the family know it yet. It may just be from the cold and coughing I have had. Please say a prayer that is all it is.

    Anne, I think you were right not to let Becca use your car since she has one of her own. Especially if other kids are going with her.

    Carole, I hope you enjoy the Abita Opry

    Jackie, Enjoy you long weekend off work.

    Have a great weekend! Emma

  • ohiofan
    ohiofan Posts: 152
    edited October 2015

    Prayers are with you.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    Emma -- lots of prayers and positive energies to you. 

    Jackie

  • Luvmaui
    Luvmaui Posts: 57
    edited October 2015

    So much to read after not being on the board for three weeks! Welcome to the newbies........good to see that Carole made it safely home after another fun summer in Minn. and it's sooo great to read about the fun Sandra and Mike are having in Florida! Termite, I'm sorry about the nodule found on your lung scan. A very close friend of mine had a similar scare following a chest cold but they did a biopsy and found it was benign and that it was caused by the cold. She was put on a strong dose of antibiotics and it disappeared. I'm optimistic that you'll have the same outcome, but it does cause anxiety for sure! And isn't it irritating that these things always seem to happen just when you're going on vacation?

    I've been on an adventure of my own for the past 3 weeks. In March I had my yearly appt. with my opthamologist (sp) and told him about problems I had reading or watching TV while laying down on my back. He said that was because my eyelids were halfway covering my eyes while laying down. He also said that insurance rarely covered it (especially the eyebrow part) because it's considered elective plastic surgery, however my lovely insurance authorized all of it! So, long story short, 3 weeks ago I had an eyebrow and eyelid lift!! While I was really excited to have it done, I was also afraid that I'd come away with eyebrows up to my hairline and a forever look of surprise! LOL As of today the swelling is almost gone (yes I did have to hide out at home for the first 2 weeks) and I'm very pleased. Everyone says it makes me look at least 15 yrs. younger....... and at my age I'll take that! I need to wait a few more days before I can get back into applying eye shadow and liner but I can wear eyebrow pencil and mascara...... even that little bit looks good. If I can figure out how to do it, I'll put my before & after pics on here.

    Now for the downside! The surgery took 5 hours and recovery was (and is) extremely painful.......much more then my lumpectomy which also only took about an hour in surgery! I had staples placed in 5 different areas along my hairline (which were removed last Friday). A large portion of my forehead and the sides of my face are numb to the touch but painful underneath.....hard to explain the odd feeling of not being able to feel brushing my hair on the top and sides of my head and not being able to feel applying the eyebrow pencil. He said this should mostly go away eventually but I may always have some numbness. I'm unable to scowl but have no lines on my forehead........think Kim Kardashian lol! I had always thought I'd like to have a neck lift so no turkey neck but after this experience I've come to the conclusion that there are so many medical reasons one might need surgery, I'm not going to go through image unnecessary elective surgery and weeks of recovery just for vanity's sake. Hope everyone is having a relaxing weekend.

    The picture is of my 4 yr. old twin grandchildren taken at pre-school. Life is good!

    Smile

  • Luvmaui
    Luvmaui Posts: 57
    edited October 2015

    Oh, I forgot the most important result of my surgery............I can read and watch TV perfectly while laying down!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    Ah sometimes it is good to complain.  The twins are beautiful.  That's a good reason to ALWAYS make sure you can see well.   Sure glad you said something.  And the big bonus -- the insurance being just fine with being charged for it all.  I guess some times the insurance Gods decide to treat us nice.  Hope your recovery just keeps right on going well.

    Getting ready to turn my computer off and decided to check one more time. Glad I did.  Really cool tonight so I got out warmer pj's to wear.  I keep my bedroom door closed so the room stays cooler than the rest of the house.  I think I stay asleep better and actually rest more during sleep. 

    Anyway, see you all in the lovely morning.

    Jackie

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646
    edited October 2015

    Praying for you, Linda. Sent you a private message.

    So many fellow Illinoisans around here (and in Termite, a fellow Chicagoan). A moment of silence for the Cubbies--but I hope last night’s loss was like waving a red cape in front of a bull. (Even though I was a New Yorker back in ’69--I’m a Brooklyn native--I’ve lived here so long that I’m praying for the Cubs to avenge that annus horribilis). Took off my Cubs T-shirt and today I will change into my “Real Bears Fans Wear Pink” tee.

    Carole, New Orleans kept me sane in the two weeks between my diagnostic imaging & core needle biopsy. I flew down there in Aug. for the Cutting Edge CLE Conference (Entertainment Law) and a gig at Neutral Ground Coffeehouse. It was my last hurrah of food (played hooky from my low-carb lifestyle, still AWOL) and wine (hard to believe I’ve whittled down to 2-3 glasses a week since my diagnosis)--and seeing Charmaine Neville my last night in town didn’t hurt either. I’ve visited 7 times and still can’t wait to go back.

  • bonnets
    bonnets Posts: 737
    edited October 2015

    Brrrrr, it's 24 here this morning!

    Termite hope this is a false alarm. The waiting is the worst .

    Judy , i'm still numb in parts of my shoulder and underarm from my lumpectomy. Guess mine won't go away. hope yours does. I'd love to have the eye lift, but your experience convinced me I won't. The younger shure sounds good , but the rest isn't worth it.

    Hi to the Chicago gals, I grew u there. Last time I was back was my 50th, 5 years ago. They are having the 55th this weekend, but didn't go. Hope everyone has a good day. Jean

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    Are you balanced?  Do you share your time, your energy, your life, as much with yourself as you do with those around you?. . . . Know your limits.  You are one of the most important people you need to look after and love.  Balance your time, your energy, your life with those around you.  You'll be able to give more freely and joyfully as a result, and you'll be more open to the gifts of the universe.  It's not wrong to give to others.  But it's okay to say yes to ourselves, too.  -Melody Beattie

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    It's brrr here too this morning.  Our days warm to tolerable level to pretty low 70's so it is ok for Fall, but ooh those nights and early mornings.  Haven't seen any real frost as yet, but one of these days the nights will zip down too fast and make the leaves ( if enough left ) nice and red and totally beautiful. 

    ChiSandy -- hey Illinois is great, eh !!!  I was born right where I am now, but did grow up four miles away.  I had the absolute pleasure ( didn't always appreciate it though ) of growing up in a town of 200.  Back then ANY adult was for all intents and purposes your parent.  If they had to correct you they always shared the situation with your parent --- so it ended up sort of idealic.  Of course, couldn't get away with all that much, but what seems horrid during the young yrs. sure pays off well later.  I'm deeply appreciative now of how things were then.  All of that has mainly disappeared now.  The relative comfort and  safety of our growing up era  isn't easily found anymore.   I will say this ( although we sometimes have the thought we hope we realize if things are changing ) I've lived in the house we have now for 13 yrs. and we have never once locked the doors.  We've gone away for a couple of days at a time too.  It is just not something we have to do.  Frankly, I don't know if I have a key or not.  If I do I don't know which one it is --- or if it is still on my key-ring.  We do however, not live in town and live by a lake in a heavily wooded area a fair distance from town.  We have neighbors ( not too close, mind you ) but the neighbors in front of us usually can't see much of us due to trees and foliage and we have one neighbor to each side of us -- and they too can't see us well.   We are happy tucked away just a tiny bit from most civilization -- yet still a fairly active part of it. 

    Still enjoying the picture of your gk's Judy.  My 45 yr. old son had hair the color of your gs when he was very young too -- maybe that is why I keep going back and looking.  If he'd have realized just how many girls envied him his hair he might have appreciated it more.  Sigh !!!!

    Hope you all have a super Sunday.  I'm sure going to work on it.

    Blessings

    Jackie

  • anneb1149
    anneb1149 Posts: 821
    edited October 2015

    Good morning,

    Emma- my thoughts and prayers are with you. They saw something on my lung during Dx, but decided to just watch it for a while. Since chemo didn't have any effect on it at all, they are still continuing to just watch it. They don't think it is anything to worry about, so I try not to think about it much.

    Lovemaui- I sort of understand exactly what you are going through. I am still numb on my right side and probably always willbe to some extent. But more relevant to you, my daughter had a skin cancer removed from her left forehead two weeks ago they got it all, which is the good news, but when they went to close it up, the surgeon realized if he just pulled the skin together, she would look like she got half a facelift. One eyebrow would be much higher than than the other. So he had to do some more cutting to be able to close it and have it look normal. Two weeks later, she still cannot feel anything but pressure on that quarter of her head. The scar is really obvious and she has avoided leaving the house as much as possible. Thankfully, her company has agreed to let her work from home for a few weeks. She is feeling ok, but keeps telling us how funny it is to not feel the hairbrush there.

    Jackie- I agree with you completely about neighborhoods being "family" to all kids back in the day. I am very blessed that I sort of still live in a neighborhood like that. It is not the whole neighborhood by any means, but the first five houses on my street are like that. We are the second house, and my grandchildren are welcome in any of the other 4 homes at any time. Not always at the first house, because they have no children currently living with them, although their son and his two kids lived there for several years after their divorce, which drew them in to our group. If a child that doesn't live with you happens to be at your house at mealtime, they are fed. If you have to run a quick errand, you just let one of the others know that your child is home alone for awhile- of course that's only if your child is old enough to be left alone. If not, a child may show up at your door saying "mom has to go to the grocery store- can I stay here?" Most Fri nights everyone gathers on one driveway, just to catch up on the weeks news. And best of all, everyone watches all the kids and will not hesitate to correct unsafe behavior and will also stop any bullying or improper behavior.

    It is a gorgeous day here near Atlanta- sunny and probably mid 70's. HaVe a wonderful Sun

    Anne

  • termite
    termite Posts: 238
    edited October 2015

    Thanks ladies for all your prayers and good thoughts. I am anxious to find out what it is.

    Judy, your grandchildren are adorable

    Jackie, that is how our neighborhood was and still is even though most the kids are now at the other end of the subdivision ( a horseshoe subdivision with one entrance to enter or leave it)Neighbors are not close but we can see each others houses by us. Kids were always welcome and the neighbors were there if needed. When we had our basement blow out from a 100 yr. flood we never cooked a meal for over two weeks. Neighbors opened their homes to take our kids in (we were not suppose to live here during the renovation) and for us to use their showers whenever necessary. The guys from dh work came every night and helped clean out the debris and fix the basement (which we put into a four foot all cemented crawl space since insurance would not help finance any of the repairs.) Neighbors and friends are great!

    suersis, I was on the femara for five years. Not many se except hot flashes that seemed different than the ones with menopause. Went off it in May.

    Hopefully the cubbies do better tonight than last night.

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,074
    edited October 2015

    A teen described his small town in central Washington as a place where if you do something wrong, two people will have called your mother before you can get home.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646
    edited October 2015

    I had an insanely easy menopause at 55, but for the night sweats (I just clip my hair up at night to keep it from getting wet and drying frizzy) and the slower metabolism. I don't think I've ever had an actual hot flash. Ten years on, I'm not looking forward to having something in common with my still-middle-aged sisters, but if that's what it takes to keep the cancer at bay I'll cope. Tamoxifen is also not an option for me: my family medical history is a cardiovascular disaster area (both parents, three of four grandparents and a maternal uncle--at 49--died of either heart attacks or strokes, and only two of them were over 75). I'm also on Wellbutrin (had p.p. depression and my dad had lifelong depression) and Dexilant for GERD and an “ulcerette" caused by the NSAIDs I took after my knee replacement surgeries, and both drugs interfere with the enzyme pathway that allows Tamox. to block tumors' estrogen receptors.

    (Time out to cuss--the Bears are getting killed by the zebras, a clear interception was ruled a Lions TD. The “Real Bears Fans Wear Pink" T-shirt has clearly lost its magic, as did my Cubs tee last night).

    I hear you about the lung spot. Back in May, my husband went in for a routine colonoscopy and came out with a perforated colon (at least the polyps they found were benign). After two hospitalizations during which they tried to medically manage it, he ended up having a hemicolectomy (no ostomy, thank goodness). In his first discharge summary they noted on his first CT scan a tiny lung lesion which they advise he should follow up in November. We're hoping it's an “incidentaloma," especially since it didn't show up on the scan and X-ray after the second hospitalization before surgery. Two weeks after his surgery his hernia became incarcerated and had to be repaired. We decided to stop & smell the roses--he's cutting back his hours and preparing to sell his cardiology practice to either another cardiologist (his partner is just an internist) or Advocate--and so we booked a Mediterranean cruise (Rome to Barcelona) on the Viking Star for the week before Christmas (with 2 days on our own in Rome). He says we're keeping our reservations unless either something goes blooey with me or his lung lesion has grown appreciably--and even then, a month's delay before biopsy would not make a difference. My care team has moved heaven & earth--securing an early surgery date (my surgeon originally didn't have an opening till Oct. 9, so she traded for Sep. 23; and confirming I can have the much shorter partial-breast radiation protocol--to make sure we can go on that cruise, because if my husband turns out to have lung cancer a postponement might be permanent). Until mid-August, we never dreamed I might be ill too. Funny how on May 7 we were both in perfect health; but by Jan. 1 we might both be dealing with cancer. “Menschen placht, und Gott lacht," as the Yiddish saying goes (“Man plans, and G-d laughs").

    We live in a “good" neighborhood, but like so many in Chicago it abuts two “problem" ones (Rogers Park and the “Corridor"). So we lock our doors and set alarms. When I was a kid in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn, we never locked our apartment door except at night (and there was no vestibule buzzer). We stayed out to play until dinnertime (and in summer, again till dark), and walked to our friends' homes and to school and the library. By age ten we were allowed to ride the subway alone to the main library, museum, Botanic Garden and even into Manhattan. But to put things into perspective, sometimes I go downstate to my engineer's studio on his farm near Sparta to record (no distractions, and he “gets" my style of music). Even so far out of town that it's hard to get cell signal (and he has satellite TV because the cable companies won't come out that far), he still uses alarm systems on his home, studio, garage and even the gate to the farm. It really is a different world these days.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    “Our inner guidance comes to us through our feelings and body wisdom first -- not through intellectual understanding. The intellect works best in service to our intuition, our inner guidance, soul, God or higher power - whichever term we choose for the spiritual energy that animates life.” ~ Christiane Northrup

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    Good morning,

    A mild breeze and cool, but we will get into the low 70's today.  A GOOD Fall day.  Later going to meet cousin Mary at the Rec Center and walk.  I think we may end up buying a month's pass.  Thought we'd walk around our neighborhood, but seems daily things get in the way.  If we have to 'pick' a time to meet at the Rec Center, we make THAT happen.  Hmmm, I have obviously been thinking I have more control than I do.  Well, there are so many projects here and it is easy to get started and not want to quit till I reach a certain plateau --- and all else goes out the window and no walks.  So, off to the Center later. 

    ChiSandy -- you and Dh are so right.  The time to live is now with a cruise in a few months if possible.  Sometimes we get on that little Ferris wheel of work and there is no good exit showing.  Guess we all have to CHOOSE special dates in life --- when to quit work and retire, go somewhere special, do something we have never done and then do all you must to make it take place.  There is probably not a totally innocent one among us.  I am still working though my life plans got intermixed with the slight care and daily feeding of feral cat areas as well as keeping my menagerie at home -- so there are things I won't likely ever do for that reason.  I did a lot of travel when I was a lot younger so that is my contribution to myself.  Of course, my appreciation level for those things have changed a lot ( so many things I know I didn't quite notice when younger ) so when I feel the need to 'travel' now there is the Internet, National Geographic and listening to those who have gone on a trip, cruise, or just spent the hot summer away from La and in Mn.  Thank you Carole --- I did enjoy it. 

    Hope you are all going to have a merry Monday.  I'll be back later on.

    Blessings,

    Jackie

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    Suersis -- I'm pretty much all for whatever helps people quit smoking.  I quit when I first moved back home here 18 yrs. ago. There was a drug at that time called Zyban.  It said that if you accidently repeated the dose ( you only were to take it once a day ) you could have seizures.  Why that nearly scared me inside out, I can't tell you.  So -- I took the Zyban for about 2 weeks which I figured ( and it did ) would get me through the heebie-jeebies withdrawal period.  The recommended period was at least three months.  The next yr. and a half were long ones where I often "thought" about smoking, but never did again.  Just meaning that the mental/emotional addiction was just as difficult and really surprised me with the length.  Glad you got the smoking hurdle out of the way.

    I love the sayings.   

    Jackie


  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,074
    edited October 2015

    I believe Zyban and bupropion are the same thing.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    Hey -- thanks Wren.  I recall a friend of mine from Texas -- he told me that his Dr. put him on Zyban and Wellbutrin --- so I always assumed ( never checked it out or gave it a thought then ) that it was two separate drugs.  I'm glad to find this out.  I have a couple of friends who should quit and I'll be able to offer than 'better' information now.  Why, I loved this place so much.

    Jackie

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646
    edited October 2015

    Zyban is exactly the same as Wellbutrin....except for the color of the pill and Zyban’s higher price! I take generic bupropion, which is even cheaper.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,009
    edited October 2015

    Sue, I know what you mean about the hand to mouth habit with smoking. I quit 32 years ago cold turkey when dh and I went to Europe for 5 weeks. We decided it would be simpler for me not to smoke cigarettes and for him to leave his pipe at home. I didn't miss smoking all that much on my return except for social situations where I would be drinking a cocktail. I needed something to do with my hands!

    I took my mother for a Prolia shot at the hospital this morning. Then at noon I had a checkup appointment with my PCP and got the results of my blood work. My cholesterol was 8 pts higher than six months ago and my kidney function was also down a little more. Triglycerides a little higher than the maximum of 150. Mine was 168 and it used to be about 75 in my younger, slimmer days. I'm hoping to drop 10 to 15 lbs. It will be interesting to see if the blood profile improves.

    My dr. is ok with me doing Atkins but cautioned not to overdo the protein since that would tax the kidneys. I asked her what she thought about the fat allowed by Atkins and she said it all depends on whether the fat in the diet makes my cholesterol go higher. We'll just have to wait and see what the blood work shows. I take 40 mg of Lipitor and my total cholesterol was 198. Dh's cardiologist wants his patients to be no higher than 150 total.

    The A1c was stable at 6.2. Normal is 5.7 so I'm still pre-diabetic. That's with taking one metformin a day.

    So the test results weren't awful but could definitely be better. This will inspire me to continue with the weight loss.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2015

    Even if your efforts seem for years to be producing no results, one day a light that is in exact proportion to them will flood your soul.

    Simone Weil

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  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,009
    edited October 2015

    Today has whizzed by. I played golf and then rushed to pick up my mother for a 1 pm appointment with her PCP. I didn't even change clothes. It was a routine 6 mo. visit that her dr. insists upon. Now my mother should have her prescriptions for another 6 months.

    Now I'm sitting in my chair and resting. Gone are the days when I would have come home and gotten something done in the several hours remaining before "sit down" time.

    I have started crocheting again and am making a cute hat for which I have no use. But I learned yesterday that I can take crocheted or knitted hats to the Mary Bird Perkins cancer center where a lot of women have their chemo. The hats are displayed on a counter and women can pick out any hat they would like to wear. I really like this idea so that is what I will do if my hats come out "wearable." I've never crocheted hats before. The yarn I bought is very nice.

    Here's hoping the Cubs win their game tonight.

  • puffin2014
    puffin2014 Posts: 979
    edited October 2015

    Our local TV station sponsored an Honor Flight for 91 WWII, Koren and Vietnam Vets to Washington DC to visit the various military monuments. The plane returned last night and about 300 people from the community were there to welcome them back. I went with a couple other DAR ladies with signs. There was a band playing patriotic songs, the Jr ROTC were lined up in 2 rows and saluted as the vets exited the elevator. Someone passed out little flags to the crowd so there were flags being waved all over the airport. It was a very emotional evening.