I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!
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I got a reak kick out of this one.
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DEADBEAT: Trump never paid his co-conspirators
BY JASON MICIAKAUGUST 16, 2023
2.7KFederal Prison Is No Match For Donald Trump, Expert Says
Rudy Giuliani had a “handshake deal” with Donald Trump to do Trump’s legal work after the 2020 election.
Rudy should be charged with felonious stupidity. He got stiffed.
What did Giuliani expect to happen?
Trump has a notorious history of stiffing contractors and lawyers. But this one exceeds them all.
Trump had a war chest of $250 million amassed to “stop the steal.” People donated small amounts to help Trump litigate the matter. Trump didn’t pay even using other people’s money!
According to a CNBC report:
“Nonetheless, [Rudy’s] challenges (and others) helped Trump and his allies raise an unprecedented $250 million from small-dollar donors in the weeks following the November election, according to the final congressional report by the House select committee on the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol. The money came in response to countless fundraising appeals that claimed it was needed to fund Trump’s election challenges in court.”
“Yet instead of paying the lawyers who tried unsuccessfully to overturn his loss, the money went into Trump’s leadership PAC, Save America.”
They likely would’ve gone unpaid even if they were successful.
A handshake, Rudy! A handshake?
How about, “Place $150,000 of the hundreds of millions you have coming into my trust account please, and I will bill the trust account.” (This is the way attorneys normally work, with statements sent out monthly.)
Did Giuliani want to be “part of the movement” so badly that he worried he wouldn’t be hired if he didn’t do the handshake agreement? If that had been the case, he likely wouldn’t be facing criminal accusations.
Giuliani wasn’t alone; Sidney Powell, Kenneth Chesebro, and John Eastman, co-conspirators, all were not paid for their work.
Only Chesebro said that he agreed to do the work pro bono. A lawyer is supposed to work pro bono for the Boys and Girls Club or the PTA, not a guy amassing $250 million to do exactly what Chesebro was doing.
It feels like these people didn’t bring money up because they were afraid to be kicked out of the group if they had.
It is either that or they believed Trump’s promise to pay them, which is absurd because it’s not like Trump was broke at the time but would soon have a bunch of money.
If he didn’t pay them at the time, what made them think he would pay later?
One might think that would perhaps give them an out! “I wasn’t acting as his attorney because he didn’t pay me and I didn’t agree to represent him for free.”
Alas, you don’t need any sort of legal education to know that that defense wouldn’t work, and not just because these “lawyers” also did a lot of “PR” work outside the legal cases.
But just the abject stupidity… well, that’s how one gets to the point where legitimate lawsuits to test the integrity of the election give way to wholly illegal plots to steal the election.
It is not like anyone should feel sorry for them. But each of them could likely use some money right about now.
As for Trump? Wow, it’s dicey. He might actually feel slightly better right now than had he paid them double their normal rate.
Resentment over never being paid could almost push someone into making a deal with the prosecutor and becoming a witness, perhaps one whose charges have been reduced, maybe even dropped.
Not you, Rudy Giuliani. Your allegations could be reduced but not dropped.
You dove into your free representation with a little too much gusto. You are, after all, alleged to be Co-conspirator Number One.
One never wants to be co-conspirator number one or number one on the list of unpaid legal work.
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IF THIS IS TRUE — THERE ARE NO WORDS.
BREAKING: NBC News drops bombshell, reveals that Trump supporters are putting the lives of the members of the Atlanta grand jury that indicted Trump at risk by doxxing them on “violent” websites by publishing their names, home addresses, and photos.But it gets SO MUCH worse… Some Trump supporters are even making violent death threats against them. According to NBC News, one Trump supporter commented “These jurors have signed their death warrant by falsely indicting President Trump” under a post that included the names and hole addresses of the grand jurors. A former FBI investigator who tracks online extremism declared, “It’s becoming all too commonplace to see everyday citizens performing necessary functions for our democracy being targeted with violent threats by Trump-supporting extremists. The lack of political leadership on the right to denounce these threats — which serve to inspire real-world political violence— is shameful.”To make matters worse, NBC reports that “Yesterday, after Trump posted on his social media website that authorities were going ‘after those that fought to find the RIGGERS,’” Trump supporters quickly started using the term ‘rigger’ as a racial slur — using it as a substitute for the n-word.0 -
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I guess I have the same question for the Loon as he had for the DOJ. Why did he wait all this time and keep us all in such huge suspense.
Proof he said he had and has been asked for over and over. Hmmm, up to now I guess the dog was eating it or as one person said, he had too much ketchup spilled on it. Glad you got it now though and I really can hardly wait. The Lopalooza of the millennium.
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Bless Ted Lieu, but K. McCarthy is going to hang on in every dirty filthy way he needs too. Why do I think he will have little good to say yrs. from now in the history books. He is not worried about having to read them though. Too insane with soul selling lust to be a SOTH.
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No time for boredom and he may not even get in all his golf rounds. So sad, too bad.
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I do not know anything about this and it may be a joke for all I know, but in some ways since the Loon is known to be CHEAP, it would not completely surprise me. I do think the possibility exists that he could be having trouble finding lawyers.
Most of the should be running the other way as hard as possible.
Thomas Clay Jr.44m· He's asking for volunteer lawyers because you know, lawyers want to volunteer their time for a BILLIONAIRE who doesn't have the money to pay them.
'Volunteer lawyers.' Oh my god I am nearly soiling myself that's so funny. It's like asexual lesbians. Drug-free crackheads! Unhidden Sasquatches. Leprachauns. Unicorns, they're out there if you believe hard enough! AND TRUMP IS!
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Oh don't we all wish!!! I think it will be unfortunate that we will hear his horrid voice, see his fat ugly girth and wait much to long to suit us to see him suffer as we did.
I do hope along the way they will be able to convince most of his ardent followers that it is a very bad decision on their part should they try and be a martyr for the Loon and intimidate and or actually go after the people who are only doing their jobs and upholding the rule of law where that abomination is concerned.
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If this article is retrievable it is well worth the read and will have you cheering.
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I wish I were as confident as some folks that he'll do any jail time. I'm afraid that he'll just weasel out of it like he has so many other times.
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I’m with you pingpong. I will celebrate when he is convicted then jailed. Until them, I will be cautiously optimistic.
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Silence is the great teacher and to learn its lessons you must pay attention to it. There is no substitute for the creative inspiration, knowledge, and stability that come from knowing how to contact your core of inner silence.
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I have to read Betrayal's article, but I have to admit — I always worry about the Loon finding sleazy but just legal enough ways to get out of things. I'm not at all sure with all the chgs. he is facing that he will actually be able to.
My thing, more than that has been that he is as dumb as a box of rocks and really is as crazy as a Loon and I fear that he won't have enough MENTALITY left to get the full humiliation and brunt of finally getting nailed and sent to the pokey. I want him to have to feel it in every fiber of his being with as much humiliation and pain as possible. Aside from that to have to realize that he did it to himself. That last is likely way too much for him, but I can still wish it.
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Yes, I hope he does, but am not sure Idioso will ever do time. I’m currently reading “Homegrown: Timothy McVie and the Rise of Right-Wing Terroism” by Jeffrey Toobin. It isn’t light reading. I’m about a fourth of the way into it. It explains in great detail McVeigh and his accomplices’ ways of thinking that lead to the Oklahoma City bombing.
It is chilling to know there are many others like him and since him that now use technology to fuel their maniacal ideology. Toobin details how “McVeigh’s principles and tactics have flourished in the decades since his death in 2001, reaching an apotheosis on January 6 when rioters stormed the Capitol. Based on nearly a million previously unreleased tapes, photographs, and documents, including detailed communications between McVeigh and his lawyers, Homegrown reveals how the story of Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing is not only a powerful retelling of one of the great outrages of our time, but a warning for our future.”
These domestic terrorists care not that Trump is a criminal. I hope that Trump can be weakened by all that is being thrown at him. I am grateful for all the people like DA Fani Willis who is going after him.
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divine - I’ll have to add that to my reading list. Hate groups actively recruit from the military. Not sure the Pentagon can keep up with the problem.
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I have read the article now and I'm pretty much cheering. I do in fact have a fear for the home-grown terrorists meaning people like Tomothy McVeigh. I think they are so very dangerous, but I also think we have always had those 'on the other side' like Lee Harvey Oswald, and his kind.
If we have a form of good government and democracy, we are going to have challenges to it. From the ranchers (was it Idaho) who had a stand-off with the government, to Waco, and to Oklahoma. There is always something and someone to test the outer limits. The orange one is testing them in Washington. But while I fear, as stated it is only I wish for him the full brunt of discordance in his life and existence. That is the biggest fear. I cannot believe out of all those chgs. he won't go to jail.
Of course, even knowing it can't happen that way, I'd like to see it tomorrow.
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