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  • annettek
    annettek Posts: 1,160
    edited April 2011

    Hi all-reading through so much took awhile! Glad most are on the mend...it all takes time...I woke up this morning 2.5 weeks from exchange and it was the first morning of no pain-we are adjusting to each other...HOW COOL IS THAT?!  Iwas really sore everywhere else as I did a lot around inside and out of the house...but that felt good too- I really havenot done much since it all began last November. I still can't lift or do much with upper body for another couple of weeks but felt more like me doing more stuff.

    PS was really happy with how boobs are going. So am I. They keep dropping in little tiny bits..I have to stay in bra for three more weeks- I just bagged themost comfortable danskin sprts bra that mimics the one the PS gave me- it zips up the front and holds everything front and center as desired. It is white which gives me a few more options than the black one - 10 bucks at walmart. PS could not believe it as in some ways better than the one they give out to wear-molded cups feel really good and not so many hooks, etc. I will post some on pic site later today.

    I freaked in NY because I thought my incision was PEELING and it turned out to be just the super glue hahaha GEEZ...I called PS and they said no worry- put a nice warm sudsy cloth and gently smooth-man- it looked like the miracle of Lourdes or something as the thick red horizontal scars became a whole lot smaller and healthier. They still have me holding off the cream for the incisions and while I thought they were wrong because my skin scars so easy, I deferred. They are right. I am not sure why it is working but it is. I told him I swab on some coconut oil all over once in awhile and he said fine but no need at this point. Hmmmmmmmm...told me my body is healing itself-that once the nips and any revision surgery is done, then we can go with the creams. Ok.

    I am posting this below as I have on a couple of other threads because it includes one of worries about travelling with TEs or implants...

    NYC was a blast but my new *boobs* set off the full body scanner- that was FUN. The TSA woman came up to pat my chest down and I snarled- BACK OFF LADY YOU ARE NOT TOUCHING ME! I had already told them before the scanner that I had just had exchange surgery, etc...I told her this, she said I have to- I said nope- you are not gonna grope me there...have at anywhere else=not there- wanna see my boob id cards? it was a mess...then she came back and said- OK we will just test your hand?! Sheesh...

    What a flipping surprise when I got to my hotel- I decided on Waldorf after booking a cheapo rate (matched what the sales team had to pay at Sheraton)....I checked in and they upgraded me to a corner luxury king executive suite! hahaha- oh joy-I had a foyer, a living room-fireplace, a bedroom, a dressing room and the coolest art deco black and white marble bath-all said the suite was about 1000 sqft. It was absolutely wonderful to be spoiled like that for a week. I walked all day Sunday and Monday- took the SI ferry and waved at the old girl in the harbor-then scored some funky loots and a coat in Soho and the Village. Oh yeah, I worked too hahaha a little. This post sounds shallow but you know what, after so much crap it felt good to be just a little shallow. I met some incredible people and it is always great to get so much good feedback from clients.

    Finally made it to PJ CLarkes and low and behold, there was Alec Baldwin...I gotta say- he was kind of underwhelming except for his magnificent hair:0 I must admit that was the strangest meal I have ever had as I sat with 6 guys and took them through the BC process to date...it was pretty cool.

    Met with PS when I got home and he is happy with how things are going- will see him once a week for next three weeks and then see when we go for the nips...

    I am nervous as the time for my intitial followup visits (3 mos) are coming with onc...oh well...I am gonna go plant some flowers today- I went nuts buying them (which is crazy since I have no $) hahaha

    Have a glorious Sunday and be good to yourself:)

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Posts: 338
    edited April 2011

    Annette, thanks for the info on flying....I'm headed out this week and was worried about that.  So the cards didn't automatically opt you out from a feel-up?

    Sounds like you had an excellent week!!!  Love the part about the Waldorf....:):):) 

  • ArleneMarie
    ArleneMarie Posts: 89
    edited April 2011

    Annette...glad you had an awesome time AND were upgraded too!

    Jan:  Wasn't that fun to see what we ended up as??  I still have burning but like I told my husband, who cares?  I knew I was never going to be painfree but I will be cancer free which makes all the difference. 

    Ladies:  In regards to nausea, my PS prescribed the Transderm patch that I put behind my ear for both surguries and I never once felt nauseous with all the anaesthesia pumped into my body.  You may want to ask about the patch pre surgery.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Posts: 2,631
    edited April 2011

    Annette -- wow what a great trip to NYC!  How lucky that you got upgraded at the Waldorf -- such a gorgeous hotel too.

    Arlene -- sorry to hear you still feel a "burning" sensation.  Where do you feel it?  What do you think that is?  How long ago was your surgery?  (Sorry I have chemo brain and can't remember :)  Hopefully the pain will go and you will be both cancer AND pain free!

    Carroll -- you should call your doctor about the nausea (I thought of you as I was sleeping last night and realized I should have said that in my post last night :)

  • matty123
    matty123 Posts: 264
    edited April 2011

     Hi Estepp, Just seeing your post reminded me of your kindness to me .. I meant to pm you the thank-you i did on the photo site! Incase i did it wrong (that site is confusing or im just still rad brain or just plain bc brain) anyways thank-you thank-you thank-you hope u are well i probably got till the end of May for my exchange, been doing pretty good staying on my pain meds :))) Take care and you look GREAT! 

  • MarieK
    MarieK Posts: 467
    edited April 2011

    Letlet do not give up hope of nipple sensation.  You are only 3 weeks post exchange and I am over 8 weeks now and I only just started having sensation back on my lifted/reduced side.  I had the my areola reduced as well.  Give it more time for all the nerves to come back.

    Annette I'm sorry you had to go through that at the airport.  I have flown several times and been through security at least 10 times - both domestic (in Canada) and international (flying into and out of the USA) - and have not experienced a "pat down". 

    I did have to go through a body scanner twice - in Vancouver and again in Seattle - on 2 different occasions.  In Vancouver the body scan image is away from the scanner (the agent only sees a red or green light) and in Seattle the scan image is at the security check point.  The lady agent did look at me strangely but I was not detained or questioned at all.  I guess she might have wondered why I only had 1 implant maybe?

    Estepp - I only had 1 node positive but I had radiation even after a MX.  I think this just comes down to differing opinions by different ONCs and Rad Oncs.

  • MarieK
    MarieK Posts: 467
    edited April 2011

    ArleneMarie have you seen a PT?  I had the burning sensation too under my arm and on my shoulder blade.  It was my nerves and muscles stretching and I needed to have heat and massage therapy.

    I also had a burning sensation on the lower part of my implant side from dropping/stretching and pocket work done during surgery to drop the implant for symmetry.  It only lasted maybe a week or so.

    If you haven't already done so you should consult a PT for some relief of that.

  • meJoy
    meJoy Posts: 37
    edited April 2011

    MeJoy  tentatively scheduled for implant on uni on left side, and reduction on right side on June 9th 2011. 

  • Lilah
    Lilah Posts: 2,631
    edited April 2011

    Welcome meJoy!  If you want to be put on the list of upcoming surgeries PM Mykidsmom.

  • annettek
    annettek Posts: 1,160
    edited April 2011

    Marie- you just cracked me up with your comment about the TSa maybe wondering why you had one implant. It made me think of those old MAD magazines and a section they had called something like snappy answers to dumb questions. If one of them ever did ask why you only had one implant you could say...I only had enough money for one.

    I always thought my TEs would trip the security- but I didn't have any problems with those. I got stopped on the way back as well, but no scanners there-again with the hands being wiped...and all of my stuff. Very odd.

  • meJoy
    meJoy Posts: 37
    edited April 2011

    Thank you Lilah..once again I didnt read instruction, in a hurry,  and goofed it up. thanks for your input!

  • MBJ
    MBJ Posts: 3,671
    edited April 2011

    Letlet:  I am so happy the women who have had lifts chimed in here to tell you their story.  Sounds like there is hope and maybe it's just going to take some time for the feeling to come back.  I am betting you have a really good chance of this happening and I wish you fast healing!!

    I was reading the posts re: radiation vs no radiation.  One of my tumors looked as if it was starting to grow towards the chest wall, but my OncoPlastic surgeon cut into the chest wall 1 cm and told me I didn't need radiation because he was able to do this.  So I guess I was lucky--up until after my MX, I was sure I was going to hear differently even though he told me I didn't need it.  Lilah is right in that dr's all over the country do different things.  I only had TC x 6 and was told the ACT was too harsh for my BC.  We just have to trust our dr's and believe they have done the best thing for our individual case, but we also have to trust our instincts and follow our gut.

    Fast healing to all those who have just had their exchanges and welcome to all of the newbies.

    Carrol:  I agree, you should call or contact your PS office.  Gentle hugs!  Don't stop taking the antibiotics.

    Annetek:  Wow, what a fabulous way to see New York!  I got bumped up many years ago to a top floor at the Hilton in Hawaii after they over booked our room.  It was the Penthouse with a view of the ocean and it was so beautiful!  I am so glad you had an amazing time!

  • meJoy
    meJoy Posts: 37
    edited April 2011

    Thanks Annettek   That sounded like quite the experience for going to NYC. Ive been through many a TSA screening having had both knee's reconstructed. Those little ID cards mean absolutely nothing. Ive even gone as far as informing TSA throughout the line, that I would need "assistance" so they would have it ready, and no one seems to care. I still had to wait 10 minutes for someone to assist.          

    I was really interested in your after healing. That is one of the questions that has been going through my mind. Ive postponed my exchange /reduction surgery till after Labor Day, and of course, there are so many things popping up in summer to do. I guess there is no good time to do it, but Im really interested in recovery period and what your able to do and not do.  thank you for your input.

  • deekaay
    deekaay Posts: 254
    edited April 2011

    letlet, what reassuring comments from our ladies here! Give it time.  Although I had a double mast and lost both nips, I have regained feeling on parts of my reconstructed breasts and on my arm.  The body is amazing.  Wishing you the best, deekaay.

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Posts: 1,477
    edited April 2011

    Thanks for the great advice on here. I see my PS on tuesday don't worry he will hear about the nausea. 

    Felling a lot better today still a bit iffy. I did eat some saltines. Got a packet of isntant oatmeal down and an ensure and i just ate a fudge pop. so not too bad. I took one antibiotic and one protonix gonna try another antibiotic at 4:00 that will be 6 hours like the instructions say. Keeping the saltines handy really helps. Took a shower. I have two surgical bras. The one they put me in at surgery and one they gave me to take home. The one they put me in is way tighter around the waist makes it hard to breathe and the other is really high on the armpits but looser much more comfy. I washed that one and i am wering the tight one till it dries. I am pretty miserable can;t wait for this to pass. 

  • MarieK
    MarieK Posts: 467
    edited April 2011

    I find it quite amusing that we all complain about the surgical bras after TE and exchange!  Not amusing in that I don't feel for you or understand your pain but amusing in how much things change with time and healing.

    I too HATED mine but now I wear it when my "girls" are feeling sore and I need some "comfort".

    It is the most comfortable bra I wear and now - 8 weeks post exchange - I could wear this thing 24/7 gladly!

  • annettek
    annettek Posts: 1,160
    edited April 2011

    mejoy- I was limited by my PS in what I could do with my TEs. He is a freak about healing and errs on the side of caution. I was angry many times waiting for my exchange...I could feel my body turning into blubber...hahaha...yet, in retrospect, it was a wise thing in my case. I had to slow down, for it was not only my chest area and the TEs to be concerned about but the whole shock to the system from BC. What I have found out is that now almost three weeks out from the exchange I feel raring to go. I think part of it is that while I was not the most active person these past four months- I did make a lot of changes in what I do...my supplements for one...I have more energy and feel pretty darn good. It seems like everything is healing well and I am still restricted as to movement on PS orders. Six weeks out from exchange surgery is not such a bad thing in exchange for healing right, etc.

    You can go enjoy yourself but I would not go water skiing, parachute jumping, etc:) And when you are tired REST. Plop your happy butt right down and take a siesta:) The BS and PS told me this would be a year long journey (I can only pray I am so lucky) and if I followed the rules I would have lots of time to do everything I was "missing". I think for active busy people it is really hard. Even to the extreme of wanting to do more than I normally would! But the year leading up to my BC I had an odd assortment of weird illnesses that in retrospect I think were signs from my body that something was really wrong. I had pink eye that would not go away and then it came back two weeks later - bad case both eyes....I had a weird thing pop up on top of my scalp that needed a biopsy, then shingles....I think it was these things that pushed me not to blow off my mammogram. I had gotten the all clear from the rest of the female exam and thought man, I need a break....but I went. And it is certainly good I did. A half a centimeter tumor I never would have found. The radiologists at the imaging center are at the top of their game when it comes to BC...

    Anyway, it gets better. And the more days that go by with the implants the more natural (?) they feel...and they just keep changing every day. Doc gave me ONE excercise to do a couple of times a day. I raise my hands straight over my head to touch each other-it loosens the pec muscle. Feels good.

    :)

  • jan508
    jan508 Posts: 724
    edited April 2011

    went to a bra fitting yesterday..34D or 36C...YIKES!!!! I was a 'b'. I bought some coobie bras but they really don't give me any support just 3 weeks out of exchange..went back to sports bras. My girls are really sore on the bottom and one towards the cleavage area.  WTH???

    I'm trying to move on and do more things but when I do I get so so sore...what to do?

    Jan

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Posts: 338
    edited April 2011

    Jan, THREE WEEKS?????????  Settle down girl, do less and be more patient with your body!!  Not scolding you, but emphasizing that you need to slow down.  Do, rest, do, rest.  Hurt?  back it up a little :)  Plus, lugging around those bigger girls is going to take some getting used to :)

  • joan888
    joan888 Posts: 711
    edited April 2011

    annettek... that was one heck of a good time you had in NYC!  Good for you!  2.5 weeks post exchange and no pain... looking forward to that.  I am now just 4 days and things seem to be going well.  My sugical bra is driving me crazy digging into my side under one arm so I have to switch once in a while to a sports bra that I already had just to have something with different pressure points.

    DD was here from Seattle just this weekend on her way to a biz conference next week.  We did a some girl shopping  yesterday.  We had fun but I have to remind myself that my body is still recovering from surgery.  Really tired today.  My DD is a healthcare IT director and concerned with patient delivery so we spent alot of time going over my latest patient experiences, etc.  I am pretty sure that she will share at her conference this week.

    I think this week is going to be hard for me as I used to be very active working out at the gym, swimming, tennis, and various other activities.  I don't see my PS for my first follow-up for another week and I know that he already said NO to all that stuff for now, so guess I will be doing some long walks.  How soon did some of you get back to exercise? 

       

    I fly quite a bit and have had some pat-downs, one was quite humiliating and I can be hard to humiliate.  I will always refuse the scanners though.... at least until they start doing some regular quality checks on them.  Once a year is not enough for me and I have had enough radiation... no thanks.

  • kjbrown92
    kjbrown92 Posts: 51
    edited April 2011

    It's just going to be one of those days tomorrow. I can feel it. Got to get two kids off to school, then my mother will drive me in for surgery. My middle child is sick still so he can't go to school, but my husband will be home sleeping (works night shift) if he needs anything. At least I'll be worrying about him instead of me. And I took another two benadryl tonight to see if I can get this rash to go away before tomorrow. I soooo don't want this surgery postponed. I just want to get it over with. And I cleaned the house today for the most part so I won't have to worry about that for a little while at least. Worry. Worry. Worry.

  • joan888
    joan888 Posts: 711
    edited April 2011
    kjbrown92.... oh, so hope things go well for you tomorrow!  All fingers and toes crossed that you will get er done tomorrow.
  • Warrior67
    Warrior67 Posts: 18
    edited April 2011

    Good Luck KJ!  Once you get in the car on the way to surgery, it will all be about you.  (Although I was in the recovery room making calls making arrangement for my kids because I was going to be there a little longer than expected.)  Moms first, always.

    Joan888:  I waited six weeks after exchange to begin to return to my exercise routine.  That was the recomendation and I didn't want to mess anything up. Hard for me because most of my social life revolves around exercise.  I started back 4 weeks post BMX but to me the exchange surgery was more "precise" work and I wanted everything to stay just where my PS put it.  Just getting back to the gym and running, taking it slow and it feels really good.

  • dara_diverse
    dara_diverse Posts: 5,005
    edited April 2011

    Jan, I can relate to not being able to wear grown up bras. I had just bought new bras last weekend then Monday had to have one of my implants removed, another infection.  So needless to say, I will be back on this thread.I do like the coobie bras and just ordered two more.They work for my one-tit situation and are not too restrictive. I can't wait to get out of training bras and into something sexy such as the new ones w/ tags in drawer lol. 

    I hope all you gals do better than I have done. My body just does not like TE's nor implants, ughhhh. It could be my own fault for overdoing things but gosh, this is getting old. I had my bmx in July and here I am 8 surgeries later and still need two more. I just thank God for life and my health and try to keep a smile on my face as I know I am fortunate. My issues are cosmetic.

    It is nice to see some familiar faces here.  THANKS for hearing my rant. BC sux!!!!

    Take care, girls. 

  • Letlet
    Letlet Posts: 55
    edited April 2011

    MBJ, Lilah and Diane, thank you for your kind words, it did make me feel better. Who else can I rant about these things anyway - no one. Everyday conversation with people do not include, "hey how are you today?", "nope still no nipple sensation today". I would imagine people dropping their coffee cups over there.

    NVDiane, you story gives me hope. It really did, it made me tear up because I needed to hear that. I will quit expecting tomorrow will be the day and give it a year and if that doesn't happen...well that's another story then.

  • rennasus
    rennasus Posts: 642
    edited April 2011

    DorthyK, do the docs know why your body is rejecting the TEs? Have you had incision/delayed healing as well? What is your PS's next game plan for you? You have a great attitude. I wish continued healing for you and best of luck!

  • Pegs
    Pegs Posts: 32
    edited April 2011

    thanks everyone, i work at a school right around the corner from my house, i am a secretary so i think i will try to come back that following monday, i already took so much time off between the initial mast. some days for chemo and feeling like crap. its the busiest time for me at work i feel bad about scheduling my surgery now but i need these things out as soon as possible.  even if i can only come in half a day i think they would be ok with that, they have been wonderful so far i don't want to push it.  its count down 23 days to go!!!

  • meJoy
    meJoy Posts: 37
    edited April 2011

      Thank you for a great post Annetteck.  My PS is the kind of guy, that after the first two months of putting in the expander- go ahead and do what you want- Just NO heavy heavy lifting. I dont do that anyway, so that was'nt a problem.  That's what housemembers are for...carrying heavy pkgs!!!!  He had me wear camisoles after my first post -op . Had about 5 fills- each a week apart. After my exchange/reduction, PS said about 3 weeks down time, but I'm really a baby and may stretch this out. He also said I can go right to my camisoles after my first post op appointment. I was already ready to order all the special bras Ive been reading about. I'm not too sure I trust his easy going manner about after-care, after reading and seeing some of the problems people have.

    I have to laugh about no water-skiing as I jetski all summer long. I'll be missing a sea-doo rally at the end of June (exchange tentative for June 9th), but have many a vacation set around jet-skiing with my friends. I guess even if I wore 3 bra's to strap me in, and the water is clear as glass, I may have to wait until next summer.   

    When I found out about the breast cancer - hidden between many calicifications (by being hit in the chest with so many softballs and volleyball- yes, I used to be a jock- but knee replacements put an end to that), I was all set to do all my health exams. All appointments were set- gyno, dentist, gastro. These were all put back on hold after my daignosis.  Now, I still havent reset my appointments. I'm still shell-shocked.

  • ArleneMarie
    ArleneMarie Posts: 89
    edited April 2011

    Thanks Marie for hte PT advise.  The burning is more from the boobs themselves.  Every morning I wake up and the best way to describe it is they burn when I get out of bed.  I have only been able to switch back and forth between sports bras and the surgical bra.  I definitely need to support those babies.  Jan..I get the feeling that you have the same feeling, huh?

  • annettek
    annettek Posts: 1,160
    edited April 2011

    Yep - no excercise for six weeks and I am following it-because it was more precise work- I put it like this- first was demo- this is rebuilding;)

    Jan- I get some pain in the center as well- the PS said it was from the work he did in there to pull them together and i think when it hurts underneath it is just from wearing the darn bras...it looks like i landed up a 36 full c- which is what we talked about at the first visit way back when entering scary land.

    Arlene- I agree when I wake up it is the worst- but not as bad as it used to be- more so if i moved around too much.

    meJoy- yep I had the damn calcifications too...first mammo i ever had bam they called me back for biopsy and left a small pin to mark them...each for eight years nothing...not a change..then this year..yep..just glad they are a good group of breast radiologists..I shudder to think I almost blew it off...mamma was the last thing left to get and since everything else was cool...yeah babee how about a little BC to rock your world?! sheesh.

    I was weird today- first full day back after NY (blew it off and left early friday) and man, i was a nutcase when I got home. Nobody did anything wrong. My brain just shortwired. I came home and just started blubbering like a baby to the hubby.

    Oh well, i still think it is all part of the delay in accepting all of this..like the whole WTF ...I was tired before this all started...

    ok...enough whining:) i will unsheath these boobs for awhile and throw on a cami and shirt and take the kiddo for a milkshake with the top down (ahem, on my car, not me-could you imagine---some crazy woman who is topless with these vertical lines and NO NIPPLES!.....