Illinois ladies facing bc
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Well.. had my tx today.. all the numbers shot way up so all was good... came home and did scrapbooking.. was feeling OK.. more or less... then my DH called.. he was picking Gabs up from daycare and she pulled her shoulder.. so was screaming all night.. will have to stay home.. and there is NO ONE that can help out tomorrow.. so it will be a very interesting day.. wish me luck!!
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Crap, Mak you just are not catching any breaks. I am busy until around ten, but if you want, I would be happy to drive over and help. Seriously. I am pretty good with kids.
I just read an article in the new Better Homes and Garden. They have a report out that if you are an early stage and a small tumor, even if the SNB comes out positive, it does NOT help to remove all the nodes. The reoccurance rate was the same either with or without removing the nodes at ten years. Wouldnt have helped me as I am a IIIc and my tumor was huge. But, if it can help out others and not have them go through LE, Lets find out more...
Blessings to all, Onward
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Onward that article was out in the NYT in February. Lots of discussion about it on this site. I also discussed this with my LE MD. He did say that this study does point to no removal for smaller tumors but it's not standard care yet.
I'm not sure what would have been done in my case. My BS was worried about micromets with the size and agressiveness of my tumor. I think he still would have taken the 10 on the left.
Here's the article from the NYT: linky
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Mak - where are you located? I am in St Charles.....I just moved here and am not working:) Maybe I can help (I know this may seem odd since I don't know you...but I went through chemo and have a 5 year old...I get it!). PM if I can help
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Robo, I'm so sorry. I found the whole hair thing to be really hard too. Vent away, you are entitled, and enjoy that cocktail.
When I was going through chemo this year, I tried to think ahead to a vacation I had planned for 3 months after chemo ended, and pictured myself there, with hair again, wig free...... that helped me, and indeed, I took that vacation and had just enough hair to go without a wig and not feel self conscious.
Sending you all the warm thoughts I can........
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Awww Robo!! I'm so sorry we all have to go through this!! Breast cancer sucks...and that's putting it mildly!!! Its OK to be upset and negative about this hair loss, I just found that out myself. It's probably the worst thing I've ever experienced!

I wish I could give you a big hug right now!!! We are both going to get through this crappy horrible phase and it's going to be glorious on the other side of this.
hang in there!!! (((((hugs)))))
Lisa...we just planned a vaca for February after my chemo and I agree 150%.... It gives me something ahead of me to look forward to and puts me in a "happy place" when everything seems so bad.0 -
Robo47 I have been there and still feel bitter. CANCER SUCKS! Have that drink I did the same as you guys planned our trip to Florida for spring break this last march finished chemo in January we took the boys and they flew for the first time. It was a great distraction. I hated when my hair fell out it actually hurts I just sat at home one day and shaved it off. Yep cried the entire time. I am now in the "final" process just got my implants went from a double A to a D and I deserve it. But I know that does not erase the year of 5 surgeries and the hell I have went thru and the 20 pounds I have gained. Yes I am still sad some days but it gets better I have my 2 boys 11 and 13 to keep me busy. I just heard on the news that cases of breast cancer went up from 600,000 to 1.5 million world wide now that could be a little off. They say it's due to technology in un developed countries and they are finding it in girls as young as 15. Dear God please help find a cure for metastatic breast cancer to stop recurrence. Love to uo robo47 ever wanna talk just pm me I am here! (((hugs)))
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Robo, the night I go to bed early your hair starts to shed. Figures. Yes it sucks. Yes you deserve a drink (Adey & I prefer tequila though. We got bombed at lunch this summer at Las Pintas
) Next time we'll make it a threesome.We really need to get you in some long scarves and funky earrings. I know you will rock the look. My building manager told me the other day she initially didn't even know I was going through this. She just thought I was doing an artsy thing with the scarves. Also you might consider wearing hats with hair. I don't look that great with hats but I bet you will. There are even places that sell the hair and you can just vecro them into your hat/scarf. (I think you said you can sew but if not I can & do have a machine).
Madmom I bet you look good in scarves too. It's all in the way you wear them. Many women don't cover enough of their forhead… that's when the look like chemo heads instead of stylish.
mahometmom62 I too went from a small skimpy B to a full D. Seems lots of us end up doing that.I was told I would end up a small C. I'm pretty sure I look at least like a full C. I think guys have a different perception of boob size. My PS is male.

Looks like a chilly one today. Not sure what to wear for my power walk but I'm about to go out there. Brrrrr.
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Um Lago....make it a table for four!!!!
Mexican food and margaritas is one of my faves!!!! YAY for the Metra station right up the road from my house!!!
and surprisingly I really like my scarves, I didn't think I would but I know I will wear them more often than I anticipated!!! YAY!!!
It is cold out, I am going walking too and definitely a yoga pants/sweatshirt day!!!
Hang in there Robo!!!!!!!!
Mak....I hope your little sweetie pie Gabs feels better today!!!! Hope your hanging in there and no s/e's from yesterday!!!!!0 -
Learn to get in touch with the silence within yourself, and know that everything in life has purpose. There are no mistakes, no coincidences, all events are blessings given to us to learn from.
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Hugs to you today, {{{{Robo}}}}.
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I know Susan will resonate with this quote. I find it so interesting that it comes just as Robo ,Jenn and Mahomet are dealing with the hair loss issues. I very much admire E.K.- Ross and some time ago came to feel that pretty much how E.K.R. puts it, is so. That is a steep gradient for some and not everyone in life "needs" this information. I'm going out on a limb here to say that I use to pray a lot for enlightenment. I was at one time finding my life so hard to live, and so many of the parts made such little sense to me.
In truth, my life sometimes is still hard to live, but the difference is.....that I did get the blessing and gift of some answers. I wish I had the right words to describe it all.....just because it might make things easier for others, but I'm not very good at that. I do though deeply believe that none of us live random lives and that every experience, bad, good, indifferent is full of meaning and is something we NEED to know. It could be something simple or deeply profound, but whatever it is will be something to enhance your being/spirit/soul --- that part of you which is so deeply and very much more you than your body and mind.
My limb is quite long now because if you got this far then you know I don't believe I'm my body....I'm so much more. My body is here to get me around and to interact, but it is just the house my soul uses ---
So as difficult as this issue is....losing hair, losing body parts, etc. losing our identity, losing something we have generally had since birth, our hair, seems I know cruel, unwarranted. In the middle of pain is often when you find your strength.
How would you learn to be strong if you never, ever were weak. How would you learn to appreciate good stable health if that was all you ever had. It is not we ourselves per se' that need or want these lessons and trials, but our soul which we can either glorify by accepting our challenges or denigrate by not doing what we can to ride the rough sea. Whichever way we go is a lesson for the soul to learn.Does that make having all that happens to us less painful.....well, not very much. We are, after all human beings with such a full and deep range of emotions and having to deal with so much we never expected to, while knowing so little. It is pain, and upset, and you feel violated and are by this disease, but you will learn and you will grow and somewhere in that......perhaps without knowing, you will be a bit of a light to someone else. All the women here were my light and just to let you know......I did reach a point, right after I started my Taxotere chemo that I was ready to throw in the towel --- seemed to me at that time that going forward anymore was way too hard physically and emotionally and death from cancer seemed easier. I've never said that here before because it sounds like such a downer and I didn't want to let my friends down -- make them feel that they weren't a totally positive source for me....because in reality they were. I just had to remember that things were happening to my body while my soul was unaffected. That was a part of my "get through the next five minutes" time period. Ladies, if that is what it takes.....if you have to take your life in five minute segments.....that is what it takes. Just keep looking at the soul......the soul is your light and it will get you through the worst five minutes in your life, every time.
I am wishing you ladies with all my heart and soul deep, lasting, loving light for this rocky path you are on.
Hugs, Jackie
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Robo hugs. You are right this does suck! There isn't even a nicer way to say it! Drink up...you do deserve a good drink. Oh and if that doesn't work well xanax does:-))
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Just got this email from BC & BS:
"Protect Yourself Against Prostate Cancer: Talk to Your Doctor About Early Detection"If it's not spam to enlarge body parts I don't have it's spam to protect body parts I don't have.
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Robo, I found the time (real time in the bathroom with clumps) losing it was the worse time which is why I went for a shave within 24 hours and got the wig I had ordered. I slapped that sucker on and went to a wedding that night. Damned be cancer. Mourn the hair, but move quickly as you can to what will get you back to some fun in life. My wig is now on the very top shelf...too high to reach and I don't want to look at it but it sure me got me back to getting out again. I looked pathetic in scarves...they work wondrously for some women with chisled features....
Makmak, it sounds like you have a number of women ready to help. I am going to Long Grove today with DD and I know that is in your neck of the woods. Call me if you need help.
Waving to WendyTY!
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Thanks all for the offers.. Gab woke up crying but then within the hour she was using her arm.. so off to daycare she went.. crossing my fingers she is OK.. as I'm still quite nauseous from yesterday...
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Sending warm hugs your way...
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Robo...I am so glad to hear something cheery in your post
The sun is shining for you today!!!0 -
Lago- I'm wearing my 90 Degrees and just got my little bit of hair colored and cut, woot! I can't hear my song cuz my speaker is mucked up but I'll check it out when it's fixed. Thanks. (c:
BIG HUGS to all that need them.
Cheers!
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Robo47: I went to a boutique Naturally Yours in Willowbrook for my wig. My wig looks so real and I take it back there from time to time to get if poofed up. They are the nicest ladies. They sell everything you would ever need. I went for my wig, they shaved my head and put it on. I closed my eyes and then I opened and was surprised. I went out to the reception area and my husband couldn't tell. My kids were like "did you get it". Hope this helps. I'm still wearing my wig. finished chemo in june. Going this weekend to get poofed again. Not sure when I'll reveal my new salt and pepper hair. Haven't seen the real hair color for a long time. LOL.
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I've been off line for a long time but I have to mention that naturally yours aren't always nice. the owner had appmt with my mom, we were 1.5 hours from home, near my mom's oncologist, and the owner/i think, got a call to pick up kids from bus and wouldnt wait on us! It was always a sore point with my Mom and I...I took Mom back one last time (found other places in between) because Mom liked them so much but they had back then, marked their wigs up really badly, $450 a shot...and then you get home and see them half price online..they finally came down with prices but I have bitter feelings everytime someone mentions them, i'm sorry! Mom got two wigs over 400 there and they didn't even help her get them paid for by insurance. Mom paid out of pocket. GRr thanks for listening, sorry for even talking about it. Mom battled ovarian cancer 12 years as some of you know, the last year with pancreatic cancer on top of it. we are all tired and cranky that we have to deal with this (at times) speak for myself i guess.
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Personally, I loved hats....I went bleached blonde the two weeks before losing my hair and that was fun, having blonde bald head. smile. It took two hair salon visits to get it down to blonde from brown. Now...I like that there is less gray hair grown back, but I keep it short and have never gotten back into the habit of combing it, i'm just one stubborn witch arent i?
So i get it cut quite short and unless i forget conditioner it's not too hard to look at. I always flinched when my Mom thought hair was so important the several recurrences and chemos that she had. In high school when i went to great measures to curl my long hair, my Mom told me it didnt matter if my skin still looked terrible! (acne). Well i had figured at least my hair could look good! Thank God those times passed! 8-)
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I enjoyed, after the first chemo, taking a long walk down my lane and just brushing and pulling off the brush, and letting the hair blow off in the wind. Always a fond memory, it was like kissing my hair good bye...my blonde hair, smile.
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hansen..i noticed your post. i went to rush....my surgeon Dr. Godellas was GREAT, he went to Loyola. My Mom went to northwestern...for ovarian cancer...i felt they dropped the ball....univ of chicago had high ratings, you might check chicago magazine ratings? i'm sure others will steer you, too....it's good to read up on things if you have time, good luck!
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Kater, what a liberating vision of losing hair and so I copy here again:
.........enjoyed, after the first chemo, taking a long walk down my lane and just brushing and pulling off the brush, and letting the hair blow off in the wind. Always a fond memory, it was like kissing my hair good bye....."
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Great to see you here tonight Kater. I love the pragmatic part of you that always finds a way to make events special --- alive and rich with meaning. That is you. Big hugs from the other cat/animal person.
Jackie
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Had to check in and see what is going on here. A lot, as usual. Oh, how I feel for you gals going through the hair loss. That was the hardest part of this whole experience for me. I remember standing in front of the mirror and wondering what sort of freak I had become..... No hair, no boobs and feeling like }#%^£€¥! Yes, I had a few good cries.... Well, maybe even more than a few. It was tough, but I got through it just like you will. I think that having something to look forward to at the end, like a vacation, would be wonderful.
Jackie, I think that I am going to ask to switch off Femara and try one of the other drugs when I see my ONC again in November. We talked about it once this past summer, but I agreed to stick it out for a while longer. I had my CT scan today and hope to get results later tomorrow, otherwise it will be Monday and hate to wait through the weekend. They are just rechecking a tiny spot on my lung that my ONC is sure is just scar tissue from an infection long ago. Hope he is right.
I have to drive out to OHare yet tonight to pick up my daughter and granddaughter flying in from Seattle. One of my daughter's co-workers and her 14 year old son are traveling with them as well so we will have a full house this weekend. Fun times!0 -
Good morning.... I was just sitting here thinking and realized, where's wendyk??? Is she on vacation again??? I don't think I've seen her on here in awhile.....
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Joan...good luck with your CT results!!! I hope your onc is right too!!! He is, I have faith!
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WendyTK how are you doing?
Joan I hate the CT scans too. They tell you you're fine but then make you do a follow up. I'm betting on your onc too.
Madmom, Robo how you feeling today?
Glad to hear Gabby is better.
Been doing lots of job stuff. Met with another recruiter yesterday. She seemed to like my stuff. I just need time to redo my website. I did redesign it just before diagnosis but never got anyone to code it. I need to revisit to see if I still like it and find someone who can code it cheaply. I also got a call from another recruiter who found me on careerbuilder. Also a call from a PR company I applied to but I wasn't a good fit.
I got my results of my bone density test. My chances of a major fracture in 10 years went up .2% and hip .1%. My first test was before chemo. I have been on Calcium since the first test but I don't think that's too bad considering I did chemo, went through chemopause and started Anestrozole since the first test 11 months ago. I'll talk with my GP about it next time to see what he thinks.
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