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Hey Undy, what thread on here tells u what to avoid if ER positive? Haven't seen it
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Mrs V- I checked it out and it's pretty good. Our Udy is on there and she's pretty smart bout what to eat and why! Can't recall the heading o the far left, but middle heading is "ER+ladies what do you eat". Check it out, I'm learing lots.
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Forum is Healthy Recipes for Everyday Living, or something like that...
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Oops, Cindy, I missed both yours and Karen's post. So happy that your nodes are clear, that is great news. And I think ER+ is a good thing with the exception of having to take estrogen blockers. I think it depends on whether you are pre or post-menopausal on what you take. NM will know a lot more than me as I am guessing. Did you onc give you an indication of future treatment? I take tamox and do fairly well on it. Night sweats and hot flashes are my biggest issue. And hate to tail you but likker seems to aggravate them.
Karen, I know why you are tired, duh! You never stop. I wish you could have a DY (dear you) week. Have someone else do the cooking, take off from work and just be pampered. This is why I come her, I can dream and it is fun.
Well I am about ready for nighty night. And hell no, I will not be on the hammock tonight. Lori is bad, she has to tip anyone who is sleeping at de lounge. I don't get mad, I get even. Stay tuned. lol.
Have a good night goils and see you on thirst-dey! Yippeeee!
CheerZ!
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No drink updates tonight...just wanted to share my latest Gracie Lu picture. Of course, before I yelled at her to get down I had to grab the camera and get a picture. Probably not the greatest idea for training her to stay down, huh!


Will continue my research tomorrow...going to try early to bed for a change!
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MV-Tidy got it right,that's the thread. TIDY-It's easy to figure out the er+ foods. I was always into health and fitness so this is just about tweaking it a bit more. Most foods you give up are full of sat fat/artificial everything and hormones so this is not a life changer for me. Oops,Mama Dork has had to scold us several times when we get off topic,this is a drinking thread. We'll talk food on the er thread. DORK-I was cyber drinking all nite,no real drinks. You can't really do school work when you're drinking. Although it would make it more fun I imagine. Tonite though I am having some real spiced rum. NM-I'm seeing the magic in power tools while i'm helping DD out. He has some really cool ones. Makes things much easier on him. And it's not weird for girls to like them,we do most of the work around the house anyway. Until a yr and a half ago DH didn't know his a$$ from a hammer. I've trained him to know the diff now. As for the windchimes I will be done w/a new batch in 1-2 weeks and will be happy to bore everyone w/the pics,lol. GOLDIE-I do my work at a rock club w/all the equipment. Would cost a fortune to buy everything they have-thousands. I cut using their saw and polish w/diff wheels so that alone is $$$. Pet wood is beautiful when polished,have a bit of that too. SCUBY-That sounds like a great way to make rock glasses,much faster. It is very time consuming to sculpt a glass from rock. It will be lots of work but i'm excited to try it. Cheers to you all w/spiced rum!
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Scuby, glad things are moving right along for you......Caymen Islands, look out....da Scuby iz coming!
Karen, you might have your thyroid levels checked, that can make you VERY tired. So glad to hear the good results on your co-worker!
LOL DorK....Stella was on Idol??? That Steven Tyler, is some kinda Freeeeeaaaky lookin dude!

You pretty much addressed ebery body, can I just steal ur post? Glad all is going well at work for you. Hoping too, dat doze dirty Tenders don't detain de Katrinka too much longer. Haha, you gonna get even wif me?
Tidy, clear nodes means you had no cancer spread to your lymph nodes, that is VERY GOOD.
Uh oh, Gracie Lu got busted! I think we all need glasses Kristy!
Shannon, I would LOVE to see pictures of your work, I'll bet it's beautiful. Ok, here is your puppy pic. I can't take from your FB, as we are not "friends". I had to save the one you sent me in email to a photobucket account. I will let you re-tell the story about the puppy, cuz now I foygot!

Can't think of a DOTD, will have to ponder and be bock L8R, unless NM shows up with one!
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Ok, I found one.
POP ROCK PASSION
- Pink (watermelon/strawberry) Pop Rocks
- Svedka Vodka
- Red Hook Raspberry Soda
- Pink Lemonade
Run lemon wedge around rim of glass.?Drop Pop Rocks around rim. Mix 1 park vodka with two parts pink lemonade and top with drop of?raspberry soda.
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Tidy, also meant to say that I have not heard of this TTNM? Unless that is a "type" of breast cancer. Usually it is ILC, DCIS, IBC, IDC, and I am sure there are others.
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DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ)
IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)
LCIS (Lobular Carcinoma In Situ)
ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma)
IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer)
Then there is a HER2 status of + or -, and BRCA1 or BRCA2 (not quite sure what either of these are) But you should have a HER2 status, the BRCA, I think you have to be tested separate from that.
Estrogen, positive of negative
Progesterone, positive of negative
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Good morning, Loungettes! Bright sunshine this am, shining through my window and the crystals hanging there throwing rainbows everywhere! I live this time of morning.

Scuby--Hooray for getting back to routines, especially the good ones! Glad PT went well. How's the cold? Hmm, you're good at demolition, I'm still afraid to try anything requiring demolition. If I come up with a project needing that I'm calling you!
Tidy--Like undy said, ER+ means estrogen fuels the bc cells. When you get the pathology report you will see a percentage next to the ER, that will tell you how estrogen sensitive the tumor was. Stage 2 means the tumor was less than a certain size (the exact number doesn't come to mind right now), and has not spread anywhere else. The TTNM I don't understand. There is a staging system called TNM--T - tumor size, usually there is an number after this, the higher the number the larger the tumor, N = nodes, usually given as positive or negative, or if multiple nodes were involved the number of nodes, M = mets and is positive or negative. My TNM would be T2, N0, M0 for a 3 cm tumor, negative sentinel node, no distant mets. Going beyond that, ER+ is better than ER- as it can be treated with tamoxifen or one of the AI's. Typically, ER+ bc is slower growing, less aggressive, and has a better prognosis. When you get your path report please post the details and we'll help you interpret it.

Karen--I have a time in the afternoon when I will fall asleep if I sit down. I get it no matter how much sleep I got the night before, not sure what that's all about but you aren't alone. A walk is a good way to wake up, so is doing housework, I've found. Is Mischa warming up to you now?
DorK--Yeah, I had the little pains you get when you use muscle that are used to just going along for the ride. Contorting myself in the closet trying to do a 3 handed job with 2 hands would have been entertaining to anyone watching! I love to swim, too, but don't have a pool. I have to hit the pond or go to a beach. At least at the local pond I can take Sadie, who also LOVES to swim.

Husker--I like your idea of glasses! Gracie is so cute, even when she is being bad!

Undy--I'm looking forward to the pics of the wind chimes, thinking I need to add to my collection! Power tools are great equalizers, I've found!
Goldie--No reason you can't post a DOTD, too. Having choices is always good! Cute puppy, thanks for posting!

Princess Glitter Sizzle's DOTD is The Estrogen Blocker
1 oz Cherry Brandy
1 oz Dark Creme de Cacao
1/2 oz Chocolate Syrup
2 tbsp Vanilla Ice CreamDirections
Blend briefly with half a glassful of crushed ice in a wine glass. Garnish with a sprig of mint and a cherry. Sprinkle with grated chocolate, add straws, and serve.0 -
NM-We are all so lucky to have your expertise! Please explain this part if you can....I'm glad to hear that my ER+ is a good thing....BUT if my cancer is fueld/fed by estrogen, WHY would my ONC ok the vagifem tablet prescription? It's an estrogen tablet!! I don't get it and I'm starting to worry bout who is in charge of this ride! On a happier note, I LOVE your morning pics!
So lately my head has itched SOOO bad it's not even funny! It's literally driving my crazy at times and last tight I was just about to flip out when my boyfriend suggests using some of the idocaine cream that they gave me for my port - awwww RELEIF!! He's so smart!!

Undy-I'm really enjoying the thread about what to eat when ER+, thanks for pointing me in that direction. I'm fairly good about what I eat, even better since BC, always knowing that the jist of it was "mostly fruits & veggies", but now I have to worry bout hormones in my chicken?!?! UGH!!
Back later girls, taking the boys to school.
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Tidy--please call and talk to your doc, Vagifem should not be taken by women with invasive breast cancer, especially ER + bc. Ask your doc to check the Contraindications/Cautions section of the prescibing information, history of breast cancer or ER+ cancer is a contraindication for use of Vagifem.
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My onc did not tell me to stay away from any foods.....he even gave his okay to occasional soy...we eat tofu a few times a month......and as far as things for vaginal dryness, he gave his okay to the e-string as it is not absorbed into the body......I am strongly ER+ (forget the exact %)...right now I'm not using anything...if I get my act together and get my sorry hind end into the gyn for a past due annual check up, I should get a new Rx for the estring......
Lazy morning.....its almost 10:30 and I stayed in bed way too late and then first thing I came to teh computer.....but its time to clean the house.....the floors are so dirty from teh dogs....Mischa dripples water every time she drinks water and that makes the floor dirty....but small price to pay for almost 250# of dogs (Bear and Mischa together)!!!....have a good day!!!
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Wow, some jokester put a "closed" sign on the door of the HTL. I swear, it was not Stella. I have been sitting here and having my thirst-dey Pau Hana with jest the boys, Stella and my darn self. The boys told me that no one has been here for hours. Where are my goils???
Dork had a pritty good dey. She declined another mortgage loan at work. I love declining them early in the process,my second decline of the week. The first was a title issue, the people trying to refi held title in an LLC, no can do. The one today, was for a client in Atlanta. The property appraised $100k low.It was a portfolio refi and the guy bought the property in 2008. I was very surprised that it appraised so low, $10k lower than his original purchase price. It was such a cute home with a second floor balcony. Interesting? OK, Stella is talking to me. What?? She said to give her the keyboard. Ok, brat, her ya go.
This is Stella. DorK is being berry boring dis night. Mese does not like her when she werks cuz she talk too much about it and make her people crazy. She gots some work to still do so I talk to all ewe. Not that anyone is here. And it was me that put up dat sign dat say de lounge is closed for maintenance. hehe. Mese took de Mr. Big in de back room and searched for his bigness. But he told me not to tail a soul so dat is all I say.
Lori, yes, I auditioned for american idol on season two.I have this fantasy that I can weally sing pritty but DorK tails me I am craaaazy. She not nice sometimes, mese tink she is da one that should be reformed. Hmmm, mese tinking hard now. Ouch,dat hurts. And Dork sez feel free to steal her post anytime. She twy hard not to misses anybuddy.
Cindy, I am sure glad that you asked the question here about your BC stats. DorK was a lot like you though. She did not get a copy of her path report until months after her bmx. People were asking her what stage she was and she was like, uh, I dunno. So she asked. I would think that the doctors would give us this info since it really is key to our futures. When DorK got her DX, she was given a notebook with a lot of info on BC. She put it in the back seat of her car and never read a bit of it. She was too biddy swimming de nile. My point was about you, not Dork. There comes a time when we need to know and I am happy that your prognosis is a good one.
NM, I agree with Cindy that you are a great resource and are so nice to have you around for your expertise. You have hailped mese and Dork more dan once. You are perhaps the biggest asset that the HTL has. Not only do wese look forward to your most awesome posts, I personally feel that you give better advise than doctors. The doctors always seem hurried to get to their next patience. And I think you, me, Unde' and Kathy should build a house. Maybe something for habitat for humanity? Believe it or not, Dork has skills. She turned a basement into a living area in her first home. Dat was before she was in de mortgae buziness and had a 9-5 job. I used firring strips to creat a drop down ceiling, used 2x4's to attach wall board to the cinder blocks. I did not do too well with the spackleing the seams but that was because i id not have enough patience to let it dry completey before I put on the next coat. But I was very proud of my creation. I cut the trim for the floor and ceiling too. And I did all this with only a jig saw. Me has a good idea. Why can't we build a real church in de HTL instead of the inflatable. Who is in?? We have talent, specially for goils.
Shannon, your puppy is adorable. I tank our HTL I.T. lady Lori for helping. Wese lub doggies and kitties. Hey, I want to call you Unde'Shan. Do you like? Me don't like undie, it reminds me of when me pees in Stellas pants. hehe.
Husker, wese love your Gracie-Lulu, she is a-freaking-adorable! I tink I am biased though as she reminds me of my grand puppy Lana. Nice to see you posting again. Hope de dwunken chickidies do not chase ya away from de lounge. Wese gots some Bailey's, jest for you. Dwink up. Me got one of ebbery flavor for ya. Ya see, STella Knows Her Goils
Okey, it is time to get de Dork again, mese thirst-dey and de boys will not soyve mese. Dey say I too young. Oh, me lubs my boys. DorK will be back soonliest to finish dis post (book). SHe berry loquasious dis ebening. Wese both thirst-dehy, mr. big??? what, not talkng to us. why? ok, be back wheel soonliest.
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Hi Goils...me n DH been out tanite...cheerZ...sheet me habin trubl typin...I did order da..a...err...sheet....o I kno...Dragon thingabobbi so I kin jes tallk when i 2 dwinked upt yhope...i mean type.
OK...I gotta say...UNDy...u got bestyest advices for da dieat....but...NM n Goldie....u right on bout NEED TO KNOW bout the hormonal thingy. BRCA1 n 2 is for if ewes has a sister or mudder, or daughter not yet diag..BRCA is da GENE that means...IF u carry it...someone else in u blood line will b LIKELY (not 100%) to get da stinking Ratba%$@. in der lifetime. Now dat being sed....dat hormone + thingy is VERY important (gawd..I wish I wasnt so dang hi)...n e way....It's a single positive, or a double positive or a triple positive...whioch is what I am...N I AGREE wit whatever someone sed a page or 2 ago, boot positive being easier to treat...YES...Als are da best. But at my stage...n we talking STAGE here...well ya kno. N E way....goils...ya GOT to find out if u a 1 or a 2 or a 3...MUST MUST MUST.
Now I all fried...er ...i mean fired up...wheres da frmen?
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Dork....er a Stella....it is thirst-dey....les dwink...Mr Big...we wedy.
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tank ewe Goldi n NM fer postin twhis mostest important infomation bout diff types of BC...GOILS....if ya don't kno...ya gotta find out. Wese kin talk foobs n nips n diff types of reconstruct til wese b blu n da face...but if wese don kno whats wese fitin all is fo nuttin....wese gotta kno to make sures wese gettin da rite tx...udderwise...OK...ok....ok BAxter...quit barkin...i off mese soap box!...Wheres Mr. Weasel....grrrrr
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Well highdy ho there goils!!! I'm baaaack! Yahoo!!! Finally a little bit of peace and quiet as DD2 and fiance have just left after staying for a few days........nice to see them bit really nice to see them go home too.
Yous goils has bin soooooo biddy an I bin sooooo slack wid da bisiting in in da HTL. Oo oo oo! I's gots sompink to shares wid you..........I gots a bisitor dis AM, a berry special one.....can yous guess who tis?

YAY!!! Tank yous, tank yous Alli!!!!!!! wat a wonerfull sprise!!!! He is bootiful!!!!!! He is sush a grooby dood he mak me laffs!!!! Him is soo speshal eys will tresher him!!!
Dotty, ey sawd yous tryn t wake mees up!!! or was dat de Stella? Neber mine eys wake now an needs a drink........where be dat misr Big.......og misr Biiigg.....where is yous? yoo hooo.....misr Biigg.... eys bets that Stella has gots hol of him agin! She sush a bad girl!!!
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This guy walks into a bar in Alabama and orders a white wine.
Everybody sitting around the bar looks up, surprised, and the bartender looks around and says: "You ain't from around here, are ya... where ya from, boy?" <
The guy says, "I'm from Iowa."
The bartender asks, "What th' hell you do in Iowa?"
The guy responds, "I'm a taxidermist."
The bartender asks, "A taxidermist... now just what th' hell is a taxidermist?"
The guy says, "I mount animals."
The bartender grins and shouts out to the whole bar, "It's OK boys, he's one of us!"
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DorK, I was wondering what the hail is going on. I missed the "closed" sign. Are we remodeling? Oh, I see....it WUZ Stella. Or should I say Stella and MrBiggness. (you go girl) But it is too quiet in here, too many goils MIA. Need to put out an Amber alert. Yours and Stella's posts are always so much fun to read. And you know I am not usually on in the evenings.
Mema....Mr. Weasel? ‘splain girl! You got your own hunk you are hiding and keeping to yourself? Sounds like you and DH had a nice night out.....yippeeeeee!
Chrissy............who you callin da ho. Dat is Elizabeth. Well, dat is what Stella says. Oh, I see, you sayed Highdy Ho. Highdy ho backatcha! Awww, dat is such a cute lil gift you got from Alli. What a sweet surprise. Hunky Dory got us all hooked on sock monkeys.
Tidy, sounds like you got some folliculitis going on girl. I remember girls talking about that on the hair hair hair thread. It can get pretty bad, so be sure and get that taken care of.
LOL Bernie.......wonder what our Wahine will tink about dat joke! J/K, we knows she ain't from doze parts, ‘sides, she really from Hawaii!
Missing too many girls here, too quiet and I'm too tired to look for dwink. No sweep for me last night, been up since 1 ayem. Think I will just go lay in a hammock and Stella, could you maybe get Pants, and have him just pour a few drinks down my throat. DorK, I will have one eye open!
Dat shood say DORK
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Good snowy morning, Loungettes! Sitting here looking at the snow, the plows have been by twice, once each way. Some schools closed in anticipation of the switch to rain/sleet/freezing rain in a little while. Got my new laptop for work the other day, need to bring it up from the car and get used to it, or get it I used to me. It has handwriting recognition, which is way too cool, and going to make life soooo much easier!!

Stella--I know Mr. Big told you not to tell, but I'm a nurse and I need to know certain things to take care of my loungettes properly, so lets meander over into the secrets corner and have a little chit chat, shall we?

DorK--I've got to admit that I'm surprised that property can decrease in value. Even here in economically dead Maine property values only go up, especially when the tax assessor comes around. And that river De Nile must be huge, since I go skinny dipping in it once in a while myself, and I don't' have to travel far! A Habitat for Humanity House? Sure, we could do that! I am becoming convinced that women can do anything they want, and women with a bc diagnosis can do it even better! A real church for the HTL? GREAT IDEA!!!! Love the inflatable one, would be great to deflate and pack in the HTL UFO or the HTL Bus for instant use "in the field" as it were!

I am glad to be able to help, and appreciate the appreciation. You all can do the same research, you know. Eppocrates.com has a free drug info system that I use a lot, it gives all the prescribing info in a compact form. Lots of other tools, too. I just have this ready to hand (along with a few dozen med books) and love to share (and teach). I do have a vested interest in the subject, too.

Mema--I've pulled the fire alarm for you, Mema, so the fire hunks will be here PDQ!
Chrissy!!!!! Welcome back!!! Such a cutie-patootie for a visitor! Great pic, too.

Berniee!!!
Goldie--sleeping with one eye open is kinda missing the point isn't it? Although I do understand the importance. It is quiet here this ayem.

Princess Glitter Sizzle's DOTD is the WHERE IS EVERYONE????
3/4 oz Coffee Liqueur
1 1/4 oz Hazelnut Liqueur
1 1/4 oz Irish Cream
1 scoop Vanilla Ice Cream
1/2 oz Whipping CreamDirections
Add the coffee liqueur, irish cream, hazelnut liqueur and vanilla ice cream to a blender with one cup of crushed ice. Blend until smooth. Pour into a parfait glass, and top with whipped cream. Sprinkle with chocolate shavings, and serve.
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Eys still ear!!!! Eys bin hidin out wif Pants coz I coulna fine misr Big......shhhhhh.....done tell coz eys no wonna hurt misr Big peelins...........and pant oops ey men Pants make a berry goos DOTD....hic!
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Aaaawwww!!!!!
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Bernie, Calva is just too rumpled and adorable!! Thanks, made me smile.
Cheers to all, sorry was MIA, still getting over this stupid cold! Hoping I can kick it this weekend! Overall healing fine from both surgeries. I see the onco on Monday, then ooph surgeon on Tuesday.
DorKy, glad youse getting back to business and making some moolah! Keep a sharp eye on dat Stella, me thinks she has some plans brewing for the weekend...
Lori, sorry no sleep, I totally get it. I am lately having good results with OTC sleep aid (1 pill) and melatonin. Unfortunately, after ooph have started with wicked night sweats so still waking up, but able to get back to sleep once I cool down.
Yay Chrissy, now you got a MonkeyDey buddy! Alli, dats so sweet of youse!
undercover, hope you are doing okay! Know it is overwhelming at times. We are here for you! Mema, the BRCA testing is separate. Have to get insurance to approve (costs $3500 and only 1 company in US does it). I had it, am negative, BUT, with both me and older sister getting Rat Ba$tard at 46, think it is just limitations in what they can test for. Knowledge is power though.
NM, thanks for the post, I will be happy to help with construction, just not any fine carpentry! I agree with all the goils, it helps so much to have you here to help. I sent you a PM, some questions for my onco visit...
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Morning. It is BeeeeUtiful day here in Mesquite. Sorry NM that u have to deal with soo much snow n ice n well...COLDness. Let us kno how that handwriting recognition stuff works on da new lap top. And tank ewes, oh dem firemens really doused me good...sooo good that I slept so hard n so long, I didn't even wake to DH getting ready n leavin for work. I like to get up wif him and make hez eggs b4 he goes to woik. Not taday. He sez he didn't have heart to wake me...awww.
Crissy - Alli soo sweet to send u da monKEY sock...n tank u fer sharing wif us.
Bernie - pooches pooches....jes too coot! Mount animals!!! LOL
Goldie - weely....I'm not holdin out..weely...weely...wud share wif da goils...but don think ya'll want Mr Weasel, he is Baxter's play toy...arararar.
Scoob - ya u right ref BRCA...I too was neg. I went w/it for DD sake and my insurance covered it. With her Kidney issues she can rest, just a little easier, because there is NO absolute in this.
Now ladies...I am going to share a most horrible pic. FOR INFO. Mostly for TIDY but won't hurt that all see it and can recognize for future reference. WARNING ..very ugly.
This is full blown Folliculitis.
Got lots of work to do taday, but will ck in later....everyone hab a GR8 DAY...MUAH!
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MemaSue-OK....I'm calling the doc, your pic got my attention!! Thanks, wasn't taking it too seriously till I saw that.
Goldie-thanks for bringing it up in the first place, as I said, wasn't taking it too seriously.
NM- You are SUCH a Godsend! We are sooooo lucky to have you here with us. Will call today and get this figured out.
Happy, happy Friday girls!
Let's DRINK!!!
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How about a BOTD?
Lagunitas Hairy Eyeball Ale, an American Strong Ale, 9% alcohol...
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Just stopped by to say HI......been another lazy morning.....haven't done anything except be on the computer....its 10 am here in Denver and I haven't even started my shabbat cooking....never mind that I need to go to the store and pick up a few things, including the chicken I plan on cooking....so I best say, see ya later....and If I don't get back have a good week.end....OH yeah...its snowing too (and we were in the 60's yesterday)...Karen
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