Exchange City
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oaktownmom i had one side higher after my exchange and once it healed i was given some exercises to push it down and a strap to wear to push them both down. SO yes it is very possible things will even out as they did for me. I did not have radiation but i imagine things could still even out naturally.
Girls give the exchange time before you judge. It will take a few months before things settle.
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oaktownmom - Like you, I was really disappointed right after my TE exchange. I decided to give it time and I'm much happier 10 months down the road. For me though, I still miss my old ones! When I find I am particularly disappointed with the reconstruction, I find it really is that I wish I'd never had BC not that my PS hasn't done an amazing job. My PS recommended sports type bras for quite awhile (I wore those zip up ones in gray and white from Penney's). Once he recommended that I move to underwires and I bought some beautiful new "real bras", I began to feel better about the reconstruction.
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CindyLooWho, I had my exchange surgery on Novemeber the 7th and I did not have drains!
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Carrol2 - You might try this thread: http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/58/topic/758352?page=49#post_3297348. My BS also provided information on seeing the Oncology Dietitian at the Cancer Center. In our city, there is no charge and patients do not need to be seen at the cancer center to access the services (same is true for the Cancer Navigator there). I saw her and she was awesome. I've lost eleven pounds, in spite of being inactive after four surgeries. Slow describes my progress but it is progress. Some say that our Tamoxifen makes it harder too. Good luck.
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Yes, it seems like that there are many PS that don't use drains at exchange, hopefully CindyLooWho you won't have them. But for the rest of us, keep in mind that it's for a very short time......I had my BMX drains for 4 weeks- ugh!
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Thanks so much Carol and Golden! I feel better - just need to be patient I guess. I see my PS today, and will ask about the strap.
Cindy - I didn't need drains either. But even if you do, hopefully they will be short-lived, and the exchange surgery in general is SO much easier than the mastectomy. Good luck!0 -
Ok I feel better. My exchange is a long way off. I'm hoping for February, but drains were awful for me. I was thinking about the worst pain of this whole mess...
1- standing up the day after surgery =12
2- new IV after first one went bad = 10
3- drain removal = 8
I realize that big picture I am VERY lucky but some days I still get really PO'd that I have to do any of this.0 -
It wasn't a big deal.
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Surgery this Monday......no drains planned. I could be back to work Thursday, but darn, it's Thanksgiving.
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Here's the kind of support band my PS gave me after my BMX to help get the TEs in place and again after the TE exchange. He told me he'd stayed up all night to sew on the little rose. A nice touch. I wore the first one so much that I wore out the velcro!
http://www.makemeheal.com/mmh/product.do?id=10197
My worst pain was always in the shower. I hated taking showers after both the BMX and the TE exchange. I always did the dressing changes after my shower, maybe that was why it was so hard.
SimplyAudrey - Hope someone else is cooking. I think surgery the week of Thanksgiving is a good reason for a pass this year on being the main chef.
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Golden......the word for this Thanksgiving is reservations.
I told the surgeon I had 30 coming over and I thought his nurse stopped breathing.
No plans but a quiet dinner with the DH.
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Simply Audrey I am having about 35 to 40 over but luckily it is this Saturday. We always do ours the Saturday before because our family is so large.
I had exchange the end of August and no drains. I received the pre dermination approval today from my insurance so waiting for the scheduler to call me back to get my revision scheduled before the end of the year. I really need to get this done while in 100% pay. I have spent way too much on medical bills the last two years and I was really hoping the surgery in August was my last. Oh well I am certain my PS can fix the bottoming out I am having.
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Oaktown, I had same initial shock. I am more comfortable now, 8 weeks I think. My rad side is still higher. Looks fine in clothes but obvious without. I have ps appointment next Tuesday, so I will see what he thinks. I was supposed to be discussing nipple reconstruction, but am thinking I will wait if they are not even enough and may settle more. My ps thinks at 3 months pretty much done settling. I know they all have their own opinion. I honestly think the rads are the main culprit in my case. Hope yours settle somewhat evenly!
I had no drains with exchange
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Simply Aud, congrats on quitting the cigarettes. Its tough.
Carroll,you got the surg nips! Hurray,do you like those? I cant decide whether to get surg nips or tatoos but guess I will get surg nips since thats what the PS clinic seems to go with. Just hate to get another surg.
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CindyLooHoo:
I'm with you on the drains! I think that was my least favorite aspect of my BMX & I had them for almost 3 weeks.
I had my exchange 11/9, had NO DRAINS, took a few doses of pain meds for 2 days, minimal swelling; way, way easier recovery! I think more people DON'T get drains with exchange, and I'm hoping you're one of them.
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I hated my drains too but the pain post nsbmx was the worst. Got my 2nd to last fill yesterday, up to 465 cc and 35 cc more to go on Dec 10. Then exchange mid January. PS told me yesterday that I will need drains, he has scar tissue to break up where my 4 Alloderms are at and also clean up on my sides. He'll use the same incisions that my original drains came out, get rid of my vertical mastectomy scars and give me fresh smaller incisions so they heal more beautifully. Months after the exchange, he'll do my right nipple de-construction, I'll cross that bridge when it arrives, right now I'm stoked to see the end of the TE tunnel, this is a long process.
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No drains here!
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CindyLouWho -
At exchange, I had a significant amount of pocket work done, and was in the OR for almost as long as I was for the BMX.
He removed scar tissue, released more of the pectoral muscles at the tops and bottoms on both sides, and performed lateral capsulorraphies on both sides (stitched completely around the pockets to elminate migration).
HOWEVER - I had no drains.
I wish he had used them. I came home with a left side that was bigger than the right from all the fluid build-up from the reconstruction. He said it would take 2 - 3 months for the body to reabsorb it.
I'm now almost 3 months out, and I have to tell you, that swelling was the single most annoying thing about my New Girls.
Oh, it's much better than it was, and goes down weekly, and the New Girls really do look fabulous in a bra or even nekkid. But I was SO picky in the beginning, and I really think a drain would have made a big difference.
I guess I had a good experience with my BMX drains....they were totally annoying but not painful, and when he removed them after 2 weeks I didn't feel a thing.
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It's very difficult right after exchange. After all we've been through, I think most of us want perfection....at least the illusion of perfection, even if it's just for a few minutes. I know I wanted to wake up and see MELONS....big, honkin', perfectly round, fake-looking movie star boobs for just a brief moment. Then I could deal with the reality later.
But it was not to be. I tried to be totally grateful that I was healthy, with no complications, yet I still found little picky things to worry about.
Now, three months later, I am happy. They are what they are. The size is perfect, I love the fact that there is no rippling, that they are always warm, and the scars are fading quickly.
It just takes time to get to that point.
And - wearing a good underwire support bra every day, I see the shape still changing and getting better...so who knows what they'll look like months down the road?
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Layla right now they are still healing so they look kinda scary almost like frankenstein got new nipples lol. But that being said I can tell they are going to be great when they are all healed and get tatoos to the right color. They make my foobs look more like real boobs. I didn't think I would like them as much as I do actually. I think they may end up nicer than my old one. My old ones were teeny tiny on my old boobs that were 36DD. Now I have more proportionate nips for my new 36Ds. And beleive it or not I have feeling in one of them. I wouldn't expect it to be like my old nips but . . . i get tingles and goose bumps when I touch that one, the other one is nothing, you could bite it and I would never know, I think my husband is looking forward to that lol. For now I am not letting him see them until after the tatoos.
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Blessings 2011 - thanks so much for sharing detail on your post exchange experience. I think knowing where to set expectations is important and challenging - For me, the relief of being through "the cancer part" and focusing on the "aesthetic part" is exciting...but I also find myself fixated on "perfect" or someone else's definition of what "perfect" looks like. I think I need to settle for perfectly imperfect and healthy.
Anyway, just wanted to say thanks - your perspective and reality check really helped me.0 -
I made a point of NOT dwelling on before and after pics of other people. Sometime between 39 and a real life I stopped comparing myself to others and focused on identifying with people.
I know my surgeon is awesome. My results are mine though.....everybody's shape is different. I have learned to trust in others more than ever in the past few months. I've learned to let go and let the folks do their jobs.
So far so good. I found out yesterday that the only reason we didn't go direct-to-implant was I wanted to increase my size a bit. I was tired of relying on VS and Wonderbras to create a bustline for me- now I'm "average" without push-ups and padding!
I appreciate and am expecting the implants to not have the projection the evil expanders do which is fine. I'm looking forward to squishy!
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Grier beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder. My Ps wasn't happy at all that I didn't do nipple recon. It was a tough decision but one I knew in my gut was right for me and that I wanted to go with.
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Cindy - How was your NOLA experience? I hope you are pleased.
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Hi Rosetx. The day was long but Vinnie is a class act. Ill post pics in a few days. Its all still emotionally draining. I would choose to do it again though.
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Cindy- I've found that each step of this process can be exhausting and emotional. Thanks for posting. I was eager to hear from you since I hope after my mid December appt with the PS I'll be cleared to schedule that step. Like you, I have definitely decided to forego the nip recon. Rest and recover and enjoy! Feel free to PM me if there's anything else I need to consider before scheduling.
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Well, here I go again! I am feeling bummed about the uneven results. How many ladies end up with matching pair? I wonder how realistic I am. Then I wonder if they are uneven and get nipples are they centered on each breast or level with body
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My tattoo artist "created the illusion of symmetry" as my right breast is a little lower than my left. It seemed to work! Here's a link to a magazine article about her work: http://scottsdalelivingmagazine.com/tag/rachell-hall
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Mine are still pretty darn firm (3 mos out) but that's OK. My PS said regular bras, not underwire. I have a tiny bit of rippling on one underside. Not particularly noticeable but I can feel it. But who cares? I have a friend whose rippling is above and she is annoyed. But still- better than not having anything and they look decent. I'm using the temporary tattoos and that seems to normalize things in my mind quite a bit.
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Still fascinated by how some PS's say sports bras, some it doesn't matter what kind etc etc. Lisa2012, did your PS give a reason for not wanting you to wear an underwire? I guess I wondered if it had to do with the healing, shaping up process or if he is afraid the wire might go rogue and end up poking through the implant.
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My PS is a bit of a minimalist. His advice on not going to wired bras was quite practical for me "Don't spend a lot of money on bras until we're all done and the swelling is completely gone". Once I got to that point, he recommended wired bras especially to help get my right one stay where we wanted it (I had a fair amount of pocket work at both the TE exchange and nipple surgeries). Since then, I've probably spent more on bras than I had spent in the last 40 years! I'm glad I didn't end up doing that for more than one size!
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