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  • andrea623
    andrea623 Posts: 572
    edited January 2013

    Annemarie, I haven't consulted whippetmom yet, cause I don't know what type of TEs I have. All I know is they can be expanded to 550, but we went 310 on the non cancer side, and 340 on the cancer side before radiation. I had wanted to go a bit bigger, but had so much pain and spasms, that I had the PS remove some saline. I am 5'4" and 118 pounds, and after having 4 kids, wear a size 6 in jeans, and used to wear a small or medium size shirt, however with the TEs, I have to buy a large. I think my TEs look pretty full on the top, and hope at exchange the lower pole will fill out a bit. I emailed my PS about the teardrop shape, and he said they're good for thinner women who want a more natural look, but sometimes can rotate, which would need a surgical revision. I wonder if there's something that can be done at the time of exchange to prevent it? He hasn't used the Sientra, prefers Mentor or Allergan, but said if I wanted them, he could get them. I still have a while to decide, since I'm only a month out from rads, but I like to get everything squared away in my mind!

  • blessings2011
    blessings2011 Posts: 1,801
    edited January 2013

    Well, ladies...I think I have my answer as to why I still have that Iron Bra feeling four months post-exchange.

    I've been having this increasing pulling/pinching/tearing sensation when I raise my left arm (cancer side). Range of motion has never been a problem for me, but lately, it feels like part of my muscle is rubbing over a nerve or a bit of scar tissue.

    The Kaiser LE therapist wants to treat me for lymphedema with a Belisse Bra and a Jovi-Pak lumpectomy insert. I tried it (wore it all day) even though I pointed out that the bra is too low to address the upper pole swelling I have, and the Jovi-Pak is so loose I can run my finger under it. 

    The Kaiser therapist also told me that the pulling/pinching/tearing pain in my left breast (under the incision) is from my pectoral muscle being too tight and to go home and stretch it. Uh hunh.....Undecided

    But yesterday I met the most awesome LE therapist (outside the Kaiser system) who specializes not only in LE and other BC issues, but in MYOFASCIAL RELEASE!!!!

    She read my surgical report from my exchange, and said the reason that I still felt like I was wearing an Iron Bra was that I was completely stitched around each capsule...and even though the PS used sutures, he may as well have used Iron for the way it feels underneath my skin and muscles.

    She took an extensive medical history, did an extensive hands-on exam,  and then........said she could help me!!! I was ELATED!!!

    We started by her doing some basic myofascial release of my entire upper torso. It hurt, but in a good way, if that makes sense.

    Then we tried to replicate the exact pain I have when I raise my arm, and when we couldn't do that, she spent a lot of time just working the skin and muscles around the left breast. She also did a lot of scar tissue mobilization.

    Finally, she had me do an exercise she called "The Shark". She had me lay down on my right side, knees bent, and my arms out in front, mimicking a shark's jaws.

    Slowly, she had me raise my left arm diagonally over my left shoulder. She said to watch with my eyes, and move my head at the same time. Eventually, she wanted me to have my knees still bent and on my right side, but to have my back flat on the table, and my left arm diagonally raised away from my body.

    Now THAT elicited the pain!!! She quickly identified it as the serratus minor muscle, and did some work on the area that was pinched.

    When we got done, I mentioned that area just above the left IMF that the PS told me was "fatty tissue". She said she didn't think that's what it was; but rather scar tissue, and that she could do more with it next time.

    When I went to touch that hard, puffy area, it had to be at least half an inch thinner than it was before I went in!!!

    I was SO happy to finally meet someone who understood what I was feeling, and promise me that she could help!!!

    I just wish more doctors and hospitals would be more open about the possibilities of consequences like this, and how we can take charge right away to correct them, instead of stumbling around looking for answers.

    Anyway, I have great hope that this will bring me relief from the Iron Bra feeling.

  • JamieB86
    JamieB86 Posts: 183
    edited January 2013

    Great news Blessings!

  • andrea623
    andrea623 Posts: 572
    edited January 2013

    That's wonderful Blessings! Finally some relief!

  • annemarieh
    annemarieh Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Blessings~WHOOO HOO!!! That is wonderful news!!!

    Andrea~You should have recieved a card with your TE info on it after you surg.  The textured Sientras are textured so they wont move around so much, and they are supposed to have less capsulare contration. (sp) sorry!! LOL!! Took a percocet!A friend of mine has Natrelle, but is'nt sure what style. She had to go back into the OR because it was migrating, so, I guess each brand has their pros and cons...Look at the info on the card, (if you have it, if nat ask for it @ next apt) and if you like, go the brasizing 101, and read the header, #3 I think it is. Whippetmom is wonderful at helping us to decide. BTW..I LIKE YOUR DOGGIES!!

    Annemarie

  • andrea623
    andrea623 Posts: 572
    edited January 2013

    Thanks Annemarie! I wasn't given any information about the TEs after my surgery. I'll email my PS and ask him for it. I'm sure he'll wonder why I want it. Do I tell him a sister on BCO is our implant expert, and is helping choose the right ones? What information is on the card? I really am interested in the Sientra, and when I asked him about it, all he said was they were new, and there was less information about their long term use. I like the idea that they won't travel around, because I don't want them moving into my armpits!

  • CindyLooWho
    CindyLooWho Posts: 260
    edited January 2013

    I did not get the cards for my TEs either. But the info is listed in the surgical notes. I have copies of all my records.



    I will ask for the cards for the Mentors though.



    The TEs are a bit high but I'm starting to like the fullness in the upper pole...nothing I EVER had before. Its like wow is that cleavage?

  • annemarieh
    annemarieh Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Andrea~The card should have been given to you after your surg. It's owed to you, and you should carry it with you. It tells you what brand of TEs you have, and the #'s and letters on it tell you the style. Sientra implants have been in use in Brazil for many years. Again, if you consult with Whippetmom, give her all info on the card (when you get it), and your measurements she requires, she can help you decide. Ask her what she suggests, and also tell her you are interested in Sientra. :) Blessings, and SpecialK are awsome to ask for help also!!

    Annemarie

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Posts: 1,477
    edited January 2013

    FYi I told my PS about whippetmom and he got a little nervous altough did share any inof I wanted. I would jsut tell him you would like to share the inof with your online support group.

  • andrea623
    andrea623 Posts: 572
    edited January 2013

    Thanks! I'm emailing him as I speak, so hopefully I'll hear back early next week. I've emailed him so much I'm sure he isn't in a huge hurry to read my messages, lol! I appreciate all the advice you've given me!

    Thanks for the nice compliment about my dogs! They're Alaskan malamutes, and are my spoiled babies! I love them as much as my two legged children!

  • annemarieh
    annemarieh Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Andrea~any time girl! That's why we are all here, to support each other!! And good luck! Keep us posted!

  • jill47
    jill47 Posts: 85
    edited January 2013

    Grier and LouLou24:  you two are up next! Then my turn Wednesday. Laughing I wish you both as low of pain as possible and beautiful new boobies.  Please let us know how you do afterwards.  I am so ready to get his over with. Over the last 3 weeks I've gotten through a lung infection, insurance issues related to PS care, a mystery hard lump on my left side, and an unusually painful, super heavy 8 day period (I haven't had one of these since I was 10, probably stress related).  So I'm laying low for the next 3 days, I just want to make it to the OR in one piece and healthy.

  • loulou24
    loulou24 Posts: 42
    edited January 2013

    Jill47 : Yeah !!!!! I'm so excited !!!!! Thank you and I wish you the same for wednesday !!!

    I can't wait to feel my new boobies !!!! Exit hard TE's !!! I will keep you posted here and also on the picture forum !!! 

  • CMartin
    CMartin Posts: 237
    edited January 2013

    roan...I've begun using scar away an dh says its helping.

  • Obxflygirl1
    Obxflygirl1 Posts: 106
    edited January 2013

    Hey girls....wait for me.....my turn is Thursday ... Yahoo! I am armed with Whippettmom's info and ready for fabulous foobs. Good luck to all of us having our exchanges this coming week.. Melody

  • andrea623
    andrea623 Posts: 572
    edited January 2013

    Good luck to everyone having their exchanges! No more coconuts on your chests!!!

  • Ossa
    Ossa Posts: 685
    edited January 2013

    Good luck with getting your squishies ladies.. Please be careful.. dont do to much, no matter how well you feel.. I went back to work a week post exchange..  should have waited two weeks. getting cording again.. this is the second time.. make sure you massage and do your drain massage.. trust me you do not want cording aaargg Yell

  • Obxflygirl1
    Obxflygirl1 Posts: 106
    edited January 2013

    Could someone tell me what restrictions to expect after exchange. I don't have my pre-op until Wednesday, day before exchange surgery. It would be nice to know. I live 4 hours from the hospital I'm going to. Thanks!!

  • foreverchanged
    foreverchanged Posts: 21
    edited January 2013

    I had my exchange on 1/4/13, my PS was pretty vague on restrictions, said no driving for 1 week when asked and when asked about activity restrictions asked me "tell me what you want to do, so I can say no".   I had three drains for 5 days so was told couldn't shower till removed. Despite having just had surgery I do feel so much more comfortable with the TE's out already.  Good Luck!

  • Jessfili
    Jessfili Posts: 22
    edited January 2013

    Good luck to all you ladies having exchanges this week!!!



    I agree. Do not over do. The restrictions in the beginning are similar to post MX. I am six weeks post op and my PS just lifted my restrictions! I still can't lift weights and do push ups but other than that I'm free to do most of my normal activities!



    Take it easy in the beginning. Let others take care of you😀!



    Jess

  • andrea623
    andrea623 Posts: 572
    edited January 2013

    Hey Jess, I see you're in Utah too! I don't see too many of us on here. Congrats on having your restrictions lifted!

  • Jessfili
    Jessfili Posts: 22
    edited January 2013

    Andrea- Oh my gosh! You're in south Jordan?!? I'm in draper:0) we're neighbors.

    Jess😄

  • andrea623
    andrea623 Posts: 572
    edited January 2013

    Jess, I work in Draper! What a small world it is!

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Posts: 4,503
    edited January 2013

    Andrea I had lump/rads and then a year later had BMX with TE's places. Have since had my exchange and not problems with the rads tissue.  My PS did make me wait one year post rads because I had alot of damage to my nipple and we were going to try a NSM.  Glad to say my nipple made it with no problems.  If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

    Blessing so glad you are getting some relief, that is awesome

  • blessings2011
    blessings2011 Posts: 1,801
    edited January 2013

    O.K., Grier, Loulou24, Jill47, and Obxflygirl:

    SOOO excited about your Exchange surgeries coming up this week!

    Now repeat after me: Just because I CAN, doesn't mean I SHOULD!

    In other words, this surgery will be nothing compared to your UMX/BMX; however - it's still surgery, and you WILL have restrictions!!!

    But there will come a time when you feel good enough to go ahead and reach a little farther, lift something a little heavier, or do something that your PS told you not to do.

    Don't do it! It's not worth it. The restrictions are just temporary.....give your body time to heal, so that you don't have any complications with your gorgeous New Girls!!!!

    Keeping you all in my prayers for successful procedures and quick, complete recoveries!

    Come back and post when y'all are able....

    xoxo

  • Grier
    Grier Posts: 36
    edited January 2013

    Blessings!  I came to the board looking for a little reassurance and sure enough, found this wonderful and encouraging post from you.  Thank you!  We've been in the middle of a move and lots of "regular life business" so my exchange date really snuck up on me.  I'm meeting with my oncologist today to get the all clear for surgery tomorrow (as well as talk about genetic testing) - but haven't really thought about what I need to do to prep other than make sure the laundry is all done and wash with Dial before heading to the hospital.Laughing   Anyway...I needed the reminder to take it easy - something that is hard for me.  As my husband says, "You don't get a grade for this, my love."  Thank you for your sweet message and sage advice. XO

  • Grier
    Grier Posts: 36
    edited January 2013

    P.S. B - Just read a bit back on the thread and see you've found a great therapist to help with Iron Bra.  Thrilled for you! 

  • jill47
    jill47 Posts: 85
    edited January 2013

    Thank you Andrea, Ossa, Jess and Blessings for your wisdom and loving thoughts.  Obxflygirl....I apologize for not wishing you the best with your exchange the day after mine...my brain is just fixated on the 16th!  I hope your surgery is most successful and with little pain and discomfort as possible.

    Keep the good thoughts and prayers coming for this weeks exchange girls.  Honestly, I'm afraid of pain...I know exchange no where on the pain scale of bmx, but I still remember how bad the pain was for weeks even with pain meds. I have a great job now I wasn't working at bmx so I have to get better fast.  I do feel wiser going into this surgery though, even have my utility cord out for DH to make my drain holder for showering. Smile

    My surgery is scheduled for 12:00 p.m. ....that means a long fast...any tips to get through Wed morning before I get to the hospital check in? I go over the edge & feel like throwing up when I'm super hunger. I plan on showering, brushing teeth and rinsing my mouth out a lot w/ water. 

    Thank you forum ladies, you all have been such incredible and understanding support through this whole journey.  Love, Jill

  • loulou24
    loulou24 Posts: 42
    edited January 2013

    Thanks to all beautiful ladies here ! I'm nervous and excited for tomorrow !!! My DH has been sick all night...I'm afraid of being sick...So today I clean up the house and all the laundry and pray to stay healthy for tomorrow !

  • CindyLooWho
    CindyLooWho Posts: 260
    edited January 2013

    Jill47 I always stay awake so I can eat something at the last possible minute. Going from dinner the night before to noon is too long. Try and eat at 11:30 pm, something with a good mix of carbs, fat and protein.



    I get horrible migraines if I don't eat. After my revisions I thought I would die, not from the surgery but from the horrible headache.



    Good luck!



    Grier...I'm sooooo excited for you my sister in discomfort....let us know as soon as you can how it goes tomorrow.