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  • ang7894
    ang7894 Posts: 427

    Thank you Ladies.

    Jenn thank you so much for your input I will not call her I will give her space. My husband said she will be back.

    Finally stopped crying after 6 hours.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    Ang I'm just reading this--my DD left too cuz she knew much more than I did so I didn't stop her, she moved to AZ and stayed 2 yrs. She did come back and some times were tense but I never said much about it to her. She went back to school and became a legal assistant and has a wonderful job with a top partner of the firm and we live 15 mins from each other and we are absolutely fine, we talk alot, I see her often and stay overnite at her home with her damily and she treats me like a queen. And now we sometimes talk about it and she finds herself thinking the way I did. So it can work out--but it is hard to go thru--Hopefully she's with someone kind and leave her alone for a while--she'll no doubt come around all grown up too. Best wishes

  • PBrain,  My oncologist recommended that I take a supplement of COenzyme Q10 (ubiquinol), as it is something our bodies produce naturally, but production decreases as we age. It is an important enzyme for energy production.   Also, he advised me to take a zinc supplement as it has some impact on producing testosterone and is also good for one's skin.  I have to say that my energy level is quite decent, and I took these supplements one week after each chemo session, and since I have finished my radiation at the end of January 2013.   

    GIGIF, you are having tingling in your fingers and toes due to that  hideous drug, taxotere.  Several of us who took it iced our hands and feet in ice chips/ice buckets while receiving it in order to prevent the loss of our nail beds.  Taxotere often causes neuropathy (nerve damage/tingling/numbness) in the hands and feet, but many patients (myself included) find that with the passage of time, the neuropathy disappears or is diminished greatly. 

    Ang7894, so sorry to read about the situation with your 17-year old daughter. Some adolescents think they know it all at that age, and all you can do, as so many people have advised you already, is to be patient, to be there for her, and to let her discover whatever it is she needs to uncover before you and her can re-connect. Easier said than done, no doubt about that. 

  • Pbrain
    Pbrain Posts: 773

    Thanks K, Lago and Gratitude.  I don't think it is a typo.  Maybe it is a newish thing not guideline approved for stage 1 with Her2 positivity?  I'll ask my MO when I finally see him again.  :-)  I'm sure he'll be luring me into his office.

    GiGi, I suspected you had to be higher.  I used to work as a clinical pathologist in a very large hospital in North Carolina and we rarely saw many Hbgs below 6 (except in burn patients or people with blood loss due to trauma).  We did have one lady walk into the ER on a Saturday morning with a hemoglobin of 1, but that was the talk of the hospital!  

    My NP told me my private insurance wouldn't cover a transfusion for a Hbg above 6, so she was watching me like a hawk (weekly taxol) until I got close to that and then she ordered the packed RBCs.  You are still ok at 8, but remember each numerical change is pretty much exponential.  I'm only up to 11 now, but thrilled with that.  And your tingling is definitely the taxotere.  I lost so much feeling in my hands and feet during my taxol, and it is all back now, but the left pinky, which is improving.  Take B6, it really works and if your body doesn't need it, it will just pee it out.

    Thanks Gratitude, I think I try the Co Q 10.  I've read about it over the years, and it doesn't hurt to try it.  I'm so impressed with how the B6 worked for me that I bought biotin yesterday.  Gotta get this hair going.

    Ang, hang in there.  Hugs.

  • Pbrain
    Pbrain Posts: 773

    Oh, and Ashla, 15 months?  Wow!  I will be more patient with myself.  It is so funny how once it is over, we don't remember how seriously awful we felt--walking to the parking lot to get in my car made me want to lie down.  Now I get annoyed with myself if I can't trim all the bushes in my yard in one day.

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    GIGIF The tingling sounds like neuropathy and the hurting nail beds means your nails are lifting. You need to tell your onc about this, especially the tingling. If your onc feels your SE of neuropathy are too severe s/he may need to reduce your dose so you don't get any lasting damage.

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    gigi - glad that your Hgb is 8 and not 4 - I was worried!  You may find that it comes up a little and then drops again with the cycles of treatment.  If you hold steady at 8-ish you should be ok - but if you start to display symptoms such as lethargy, extreme fatigue, dizzyness, shortness of breath, confusion - these are distinct signals that you need a transfusion.  For your family members with appropriate blood typing to do a "directed donation"  they would donate just like at a blood drive, but some additional paperwork will be filled out, and you will be typed and crossmatched as well.  Their blood is set aside for you and held in your name for 30 days at your local blood bank, or designated hospital.  If you think you may need a transfusion within the next 30 days, just have them donate and blood will be held.  If you have not used it by about day 27-28, the blood bank will investigate whether you will be needing the blood, and if not, they put it on the shelf with other donated blood and it will be given to another compatible patient.  Directed donations are not wasted if you don't need them!

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Posts: 5,945

    Gigi, so glad you are at eight. Whew! Sometimes we scare ourselves! LOL Pbrain, I didn't start feeling really good until this February! Last June was my last Tch. Last herceptin was in August. But, I had two surguries, one to implant, one to remove it. I am sure that impacted my recovery! Hang in there, it does get better. I actually made an appt with my plastic surgeon, my pcp, and a colonoscopy! I am recovered enough to see more doctors, wow. LOL Much love.

  • fluffqueen01
    fluffqueen01 Posts: 1,801

    Hi all! Been away for a bit. Just finished reading up on everything. Saw my oncologist for the leg pain I was/am having. He squeezed all around my leg, said if it was a bad blood clot, it would hurt a lot. said it could be a small one, although he didn't really think so and told me to take an aspirin a day for a couple weeks to see if that would help. Said even if it was a small clot, that is pretty much what they do these days. Not sure I am buying that, nor does it appear to be working, but I am giving it the two weeks.

    CAmi....a few pages back, as i was skimming through, you had a post that said you monitored your POT. I missed the part on the magnesium and thought you were lighting up some doobies, lol. I had to stop to re read the whole post.

  • ashla
    ashla Posts: 1,566

    More on the powers of estrogen. This may be helpful to remember if you appear to be getting recurrent UTIs.
    Don't know how they would treat us but at keast you ould understand why it's happening.

    "Short-term estrogen therapy induced cellular changes in urothelium consistent with improved ability to fight off urinary tract infection (UTI), results from clinical and preclinical studies suggested."

    http://www.medpagetoday.com/Urology/Urology/39982?xid=nl_mpt_DHE_2013-06-20&utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DailyHeadlines&utm_source=WC&eun=g626901d0r&userid=626901&email=ashland1221@gmail.com&mu_id=57481Short-term estrogen therapy induced cellular changes in urothelium consistent with improved ability to fight off urinary tract infection (UTI), results from clinical and preclinical studies suggested.  08

  • ashla
    ashla Posts: 1,566
    Another study confiming recent research...
    "

    Thousands of patients whose breast cancer has spread beyond the initial tumour could avoid having to undergo further invasive surgery following a major trial involvingWelshmedics.



    A team based at the breast centre at the University Hospital Llandough have lead the UK arm of a European cancer trial which found that less invasive treatment can be as effective as surgery for some breast cancer patients.



    The findings mean that radiotherapy could be used instead of surgical treatment to remove cancer cells that have developed in an armpit’s lymph nodes.



    Up to now, when it has been discovered the disease has spread to the lymph nodes, the only option has been to remove them through surgery."

    .http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/breast-cancer-welsh-non-surgery-treatment-4405930

  • tonlee
    tonlee Posts: 1,590

    Pbrain,

    I've never recovered my stamina/strength 100%.  :(

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    Me either, and I can't predict which days will be good days and which will not!  We are about to take a 2 week trip to Europe and I am very nervous that I will not have enough energy to enjoy it - it will be planes, trains and automobiles and a bunch of different locations. The planning is wearing me out all by itself!  I realize that I should not be whining because I am fortunate enough to be going on the trip, but I am worried that I will slow everyone down and ruin the fun!

  • ashla
    ashla Posts: 1,566

    SpecialK

    I had alot of trouble this past winter in Florida and then It finally sunk in...I have limitations that weren't there the last time I was there and was ona similar schedule. I started cutting back on plans and started saying no to things and people. Eventually I explained it to my closest friends and they undertood completely.

    My advice is to set a certain amount of time for rest. If you're doing a fabulous tour in the morning....maybe forget the afternoon shopping spree in favor of rest. Then you can be ready for dinner out.

    Same thing during the work week. Set time or rest.

  • cowgirl13
    cowgirl13 Posts: 817

    ashla, wonderful advice.  I too do not schedule as much as prior to BC.  By being really rigorous about this I don't often feel that tired these days--and as a result of this I am able to appreciate what I do have in my life..the everyday things.

    I am always lurking here but I did want to post that as of June 17 I am 4 years out from BC.  I also just had my annual mammogram and all is good with that.

    I also wanted to share that it took me a long time to get my energy back after treatment.  I think it was at least 2-l/2 years but it did come back although at a new normal...so if its taking you a while there is hope!  That's the good news--

  • ashla
    ashla Posts: 1,566

    Cowgirl13....

    So happy for you and thank you for stopping by to share the good news. We're all so busy dealing with all the difficulties in this forum that we don't focus on the good !

    That's a great point too..by cutting back I was able to enjoy MORE.

    I had been so looking forward to going to FLorida and enjoying life and when I got there I felt a bit panicked at the pace until I finally understood what had happened .

  • ashla
    ashla Posts: 1,566

    Btw..hi Tonlee and Lee A hope all is good. Think you surgery was to be about now.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    Cowgirl that is good news--Congratulations

    And it true Everyone knows I can plan things but If I don't go it's OK--they all understand and that' great-and I try to do things but not always try hard enough I know.

    Fluff POT has been made legal here so u never know what I'm talking about now. LOL

  • honeybair
    honeybair Posts: 234

    Ashla, thanks for sharing the link about radiotherapy in place of surgery.  It appears that surgery is still needed, if I understand correctly.  I am facing a modified radical mastectomy and my surgeon informed me that all my lymph nodes would be taken,  which is standard procedure for a recurrent cancer which is what I have.  I would gladly trade radiation for surgery.

    Ang, teen daughters are difficult, but there is hope if you hold on and don't criticize.  I speak from experience.  My youngest daughter was a very difficult teen whose life has worked out very well.  There was no moving out and moving in with boyfriend situation which makes the experience even more painful.  Some teens are more headstrong and rebellious, but most mature and realize that their mothers loved them and only wanted what was best for them.  Still, there is no pain like the betrayal of a child.

    fluffqueen, is there swelling with your leg pain?  I had two scans to determine if there was a DVT.  First was negative, scond positive.  I am now on a drug called Xeralto to control my clotting.  I feel that leg pain should be taken very seriously.

    To all of you, thanks for sharing.  You are such an inspiration for me.

  • ang7894
    ang7894 Posts: 427

    Cowgirl--- Great news Congratulations

  • ang7894
    ang7894 Posts: 427

    honeybair-- Thank you.  your right my DD is so headstrong my husband said last night she is so much like you.   I am hanging in there much better today then yesterday.

  • ang7894
    ang7894 Posts: 427

    Hey, where is LeeA?   I am giving a shout out to LeeA how you doing?

  • ashla
    ashla Posts: 1,566

    Honeybair...

    Think so too...good luck with it all!

  • dragonfly1
    dragonfly1 Posts: 516

    Hi everyone. So, here is the latest. You may recall that I was in chemopause for 2 years and 3 months and then experienced bleeding earlier this month for 8 days. I just turned 44 this week. Gyn ordered a pelvic ultrasound which was done a few days ago. I've been on Tamoxifen 1 year and 10 months. My first baseline pelvic ultrasound in December 2012 was abnormal followed by a biopsy that was normal. Got the call this evening that this ultrasound is abnormal as well and there is "significantly more thickening of the lining" so I need another biopsy. I dread it-it was the most painful procedure I've had throughout this entire journey. My Gyn is going on vacation so the biopsy is scheduled for 7/15. More waiting and worrying:( Now I'm wondering if the bleeding was actually a period or if it was something much more concerning. Will keep you posted because I'm sure others may go through this as well.

  • arlenea
    arlenea Posts: 1,150

    Dragonfly:  We all know the waiting is the worst part.  Hoping all goes well!  Just never ends, does it! 

  • cowgirl13
    cowgirl13 Posts: 817

    dragonfly, I'm sorry to hear you have to have the biopsy.  I have had two and they were about 15 years ago.  I believe its called an endometrial biopsy.  One of them was really painful and the second one was no big deal because the doc gave me novacaine.  Is there any way you can talk to the doc about pain prior to the procedure?  Thinking good thoughts for you.

  • arlenea
    arlenea Posts: 1,150

    So, I had my mammogram and ultrasound today and guessing it will always be stressful forever.  So, the tech does my mammo and looks at my order and says, wasn't your BC in your right breast?  Yes, says I!  Your doctors order is requesting a US of the left breast.  So I have to wait while she calls the doctor to correct things.  Then I go in for the US and she does the right breast and it was more painful than the mammogram because she was pushing really hard through the scar tissue from my surgery so that she could insure nothing nasty was growing back there (a good thing for sure) and then says on to the left breast....now I'm worried because they never do the good breast and thinking they found something on the mammogram.  Then to wait for the radiologist who says ALL IS WELL and says I really don't need an ultrasound in the future but I know my onco, she'll order it.  Glad that is over for another year!

    SpecialK:  Enjoy your trip!

    For any Florida folks, GO HEAT!!!!

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Posts: 5,945

    Dragonfly, someone in my support group is waiting for her biopsy news right now. Waiting sucks. Hugs.

  • Pbrain
    Pbrain Posts: 773

    Thank you everyone.  I could just cry with all of the wonderful support here, especially with those so many months and years out from treatment.  I've been so hard on myself this summer because really, gardening is my only real passion.  And some days this Spring my yard looked like that of a house-bound old lady.  I always see all the imperfections although my neighbors compliment me wildly.  So I get so frustrated with having to come in the house after just pulling out a few weeds and sitting down.

    It helps so much to know this is normal.  I need to give myself a break.  My Mom keeps saying "accept that this is the year of a not so great garden" and I think she is right.  K, I say you will enjoy Europe if you give yourself a break.  While everyone else wanders at certain times, tell them they'll find you relaxing in an al fresco pastry shop Wink for hours.

    So another Q, I went to see my radiation oncologist today for my 1 month check up.  He was very encouraging, said I look great and that I did so well with the whole thing.  I asked him who would take out my port because I didn't suspect it would be my highly skilled breast surgeon.  He said whoever puts it in will take it out, so my BS Dr. Kim will remove it.  But he said in the cancer practice I go to, they like to keep them in indefinitely if it isn't bothering me.  It isn't and I don't care if it stays in.  I asked about risk of clotting or infection and he said that was extremely minimal. 

    My cancer center (and Fluff's) is the first in the nation to be certified by MD Anderson, so I need to ask--were any of you told to hold on to your port if it isn't bothering you?  I was kind of surprised, but suspect that since all my doctors work together, that might be how they approach it.

  • arlenea
    arlenea Posts: 1,150

    PBrain:  Seems it is different from onc to onc.  My port was in less than 2 years.  When it was determined that I couldn't finish Herceptin, out it went.  It was such an easy procedure with just a little lidocaine.  Mine was in less than 2 years and it was the powerport so I was extremely happy to have it removed.  It didn't hurt or anything but was very obvious and limited the clothing I could wear.  My cousin was told hers (not breast cancer for her) would remain for at least 5 years.