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You know, I think I just probably watched too much Medical Center as a kid (remember Chad Everett as Dr. Joe Gannon?) They always started out with a young, healthy person having some sort of clawing and clutching seizure--the very first scene! And then they'd work the patient up with lots of dramatic music and sobbing family members. Then poof, they'd figure out what was wrong and the patient would be all better (after 40 minutes of pure drama).
I need to step back from the tacky 70's shows and relax.
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Pbrain - I go back a little farther than you, all the way back to Marcus Welby, M.D.
I learned a long time ago that I had to quit watching medical shows because I always developed the symptoms shortly after watching a show... In my mind, that is.0 -
It has been a long time since I have been on site, but I am back. I have two questions for those of you who had Chemo and Radiation. 1. During Chemo I noticed that I had a specific oder. Nothing terrible, but there. Now that I have finished I still have it. Embarrassingly, I think it is vaginal. Anyone have anything similar? 2. I have finished Rads and I now have what my onc calls Radiation Pneumonia! The gift that keeps on giving. Anyone else have it? It isn't terrible just an annoying cough. We are watching it before treating it with steroids.
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Pbrain the last place cancer usually goes is to the brain. It's not your usual headache either. The headache won't go away with the usual headache meds and is usually more severe. Don't confuse that hangover with brain mets… lay off the cheap tequila and maybe the headaches will subside

Bellanan I have heard of Radiation Pneumonia. Hope you can avoid the steroids.
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Ballanan, yes to # 1. I'm actually glad to hear it because that means I'm not the only one lol
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KayB, I'm with you and Dr. Kildare. Also, with you as to having to watch what Mom or Dad was watching! After all, there was only one tv in the house, I was in fifth grade before we got a color tv. LOL
And Pbrain, horses, NOT zebras! LOL , much love.0 -
BethCon1, thanks for the reply. Did you do anything about it? I was beginning to think I was crazy!
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Lago, my port freaks me out. I’m squeamish and I can’t hardly look at the thing. Then there is some freakish cord up my neck which seems like a vein but isn’t….. blech. Can’t wait to get that thing out of me.
Specialk, thanks for the info. MO has been having that CMP done from time to time – I’ll make sure I keep getting them periodically. Are those tumor marker tests accurate? I though those were more for the later stages?
Pbrain, I do the same thing all the time…. I would say that doesn’t sound a whole lot like brain mets, and I assume that if it really were something like that (which I’m sure it isn’t), you would have the symptoms more than just here and there. Did you ever get scans and such? I think a lot of us do that at some point during treatment or after. Probably good to get an official “all clear.”
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Bellanan, I really didn't give it a lot of thought. I just figured my body is changing, my skin changed, my weight changed, I guess this is a part of it.
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Belaman I went to the Dr. and told her I stink like a family of skunk got mad at me, at the same time, I'd take showers, my perfunes never have smelled the same on me again --even now--I, like everyone, have the same group that I use, Tova, Clean, Philosophy I always got complimented on how frangrance was so nice. I never get them any more and I'm trying others and nothing much. LOL
OK Ben Casey was my guy, never smiled and always figured some goofy thing out--with Sam Jaffy as the head of the hospital. And when I was going thru chemo I watched mystery Disease and I had a new one every week-none were cancer, but they all had to do with me not making it til next week which brought everyone up to House--no bedside manner but u thought about bed with him.
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camillegal - you make me smile

PBrain - glad everyone talked you off the ledge, I'm sure we've all been there at least once ourselves
Cypher - yes, not fond of how my port feels or looks but it sure works well, for that I am very thankful0 -
Cami, you're hysterical! I love reading your posts!
And Cypher, me too. The port has never hurt, never bugged me, but the little wire thing is gross. It works though, so I'm glad I have it.
Bellanan, I had 1 tx of taxotere and carboplatin and I reeked. I couldn't stand being around myself. And I sweated at night like crazy. I washed sheets every day because I smelled like metal and (as Cami would say) a family of skunks. Once I got that crap out of my system, I think I just smell the same, but I remember just being a giant stink bomb for a few weeks. Those chemo agents are tough!
And yeap, radiation pneumonia is a real thing. My RO always asked about cough and shortness of breath whenever I saw him, so I get the feeling it is relatively common.
KayB and Moon, yes, horses...zebras are not allowed. And it is time to get off my dead a$$, stop feeling sorry for myself and exercise!
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Camillegal, thanks. Comforting to know that u still smell! LOL
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Bellanan I'm sure I gave great comfort to alot of people except the people I'm around.
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In terms of chances of survival - the comment that it is a 50/50 shot....... My question: what makes someone end up on one side or the other? How much do nutrition, exercise, alcohol cosumption, other lifestyle choices - have to do with whether you beat the cancer or the cancer beats you?
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Flaviarose, have you read anything by Dr. David Servan-Schreiber? He wrote "Anti-cancer - A new way of life." He had a theory about that. It's very interesting theory and may have some merit. Here's a transcript of a lecture he gave at M.D. Anderson in 2009. He explains it very well.
http://www.mdanderson.org/transcripts/current-topics-on-oncology/2009/anticancer-transcript.html
He has since died, but lived, I think, about 19 years past his expected survival from brain cancer. It's very interesting. My apologies in advance, if you already know about this.
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Hi everyone!
I am posting an article from Medscape site, "Impact of Metabolizing Enzymes on Drug Response of Endocrine Therapy (SERMs and AIs) in Breast Cancer." I found it to be very informative, interesting. It focuses on the use of Tamoxifen and/or AIs as part of adjuvant therapy for BC patients who are at high risk for a recurrence. A lot of focus is on the CYP2D6 enzyme, its role in metabolizing Tamoxifen, how absence of alleles for CYP2D6 causes non-expression of CYP2D6 protein, making some BC patients poor metabolizers of Tamoxifen; how poor metabolizers benefit by switching to an AI (three are examined, and the enzyme(2) involved in metabolizing AIs is explained/explored; how certain SSRIs (used to treat, depression, for example) reduce the effectiveness of Tamoxifen, etc. Read and enjoy:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/804598
Pbrain, FWIW, I now have frozen shoulder in my left arm (was tendonitits and has now become worse--oh joy, oh bliss!!!), and I have had some sobbing sessions with DH, as I had convinced myself that my BC had metastasized to my bones. Had an hour-long MRI done on my spine and upper left quadrant about 10 days ago, so I have to wait for test imaging results. Bottom line is that our bodies will exhibit SEs for months/years to come, and we have to breathe deeply, use our intellect to override our emotional collapses (which are TOTALLY required, every now and again
), take notice of symptoms and head off to the docs when we really think something is wrong. Had my fourth MUGA scan today, and my left ventricle EF % was 58. Is that okay?? Right ventricle was 47%. . .
Well, paranoia quickly sets in with me, sometimes, so I just visited the Cleveland Clinic website to discover how to interpret MUGA percentages. Thought some of you other ladies might appreciate the info., too. I feel better already
:http://my.clevelandclinic.org/heart/disorders/heartfailure/ejectionfraction.aspx
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Flaviarose, I have no idea. I am always reading and everyone seems to have their own theories, but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. You can have one gal that still eats junk food and barely exercises and she lives without recurrence and then another gal who eats healthy and exercises religiously and end up with brain mets and dies. It's so frustrating. I think that's why it's so scary, because sometimes it doesn't matter what we do.
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Question- I see many people mentioning MUGA scans. They give me cardiac ultrasounds. What is the difference? It seems like everyone gets the MUGA, I'm wondering why I get something different.
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bethcon - I had echocardiograms also, they are a completely external exam whereas a MUGA requires an injectable. They both do the same thing and docs order one or the other based on style points. My onc happens to like echo.
cypher - no, the tumor markers are not particularly reliable - they can be skewed by a number of factors, including inflammation - hello? Every joint in my body hurts! This is why a lot of docs don't use them. Mine likes them for trending info.
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flaviarose The most important thing you can do to reduce your risk of recurrence maintain a healthy weight, reduce your alcohol consumption and exercise… granted I was never much of a drinker, never had a weight problem and have always been more active than most since I very rarely drive (take public transportation) and still got the disease in the first place. Always ate pretty healthy too. Sometimes this stuff is just out of our control and has nothing to do with an unhealthy lifestyle. I still say stress plays a huge part in this. THAT I did have.
BethCon1 I got a MUGA too. Only one before chemo/heceptin. That's it.
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BethCon1 - I get echocardiograms, not MUGA scans. I requested the echo instead of MUGA because for MUGA you get injected with something radioactive I believe. My oncologist says that echos are cheaper and give you the same information.
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Gosh Ladies it’s good to know I’m not the only cancer-induced hypochondriac. I am having some weird knee thing, and I went in yesterday to have it seen. I was trying to get a more specific answer from the doctor as to what he thought it was, and he said something about how it’s better not to prematurely say things b/c it might just make me worry. Actually that’s not what he said, that’s just my interpretation of what he said. Intellectually, I think the odds of this being bone mets v. all the other things it could be are extremely small, so I am being pretty good at keeping my anxiety at bay. But seriously the fact that it even enters my mind at all is f-ed up. I mean it’s as likely to be bone mets as my having a headache during the height of allergy season after I have had a few glasses of wine is likely to be brain mets…. Gratitude, I’m sure you’re FINE, it’s probably just some other annoying thing like arthritis.
Re the muga/echo thing – I think the mugas are slightly more accurate in that they depend less on the expertise of the reader to interpret them. So I am having mugas for the clinical trial I’m on. However, my cardiologist (I have one now! Oh well it’s not as bad as having an oncologist….) said that, when I’m done with active treatment, I don’t need them anymore b/c he says he is a very accurate reader of the echos. I believe him and am no fan of the mugas, so that’s what I’ll do.
Yeah Beth it is super frustrating – I am also someone who has had very healthy habits for a long time, and still this. WTF. ‘
Gratitude, can’t open the medscape link without being a member …. If you could cut and paste it into a message I’m sure al ot of us would be interested in reading it.
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Hi everyone.
I'm kind of new here and I am always on these boards and I am glad I found a group for triple positive women. I am not going through breast cancer treatment myself but my mom is...I am 21 years old and I am her primary caregiver. I am always online trying to find information so I am really happy I found this group. In December my mom was diagnosed with stage 3 triple positive BC, 7/14 + nodes....it's been a really rough journey and I am hoping the worst of it is over. The thing that has really scared me is the fact that my mom is HER2/neu positive, and it's so nice to see so many HER2/neu positive women on here doing great now that their treatment has ended. My mom has one week left of radiation (and Herceptin until March) and the past week I have notice that my anxiety has really increased. I am just terrified for treatment to end and my stomach turns every time I ever hear the words "doctor" or "hospital"...I have been getting some help dealing with my fears and emotions but I was just wondering if experiencing more fear than usual around this time is normal. I really admire all of you women and I think you're all so amazing and courageous. I hope one day my mom and I can help and give hope to others going through this scary journey.0 -
Thanks for the link, GrandmaV. I do have his book - in the pile of half-read books waiting for me.... I agree with the idea that we have a lot to do with our survival and outcome in terms of choices we make.
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J92 Herceptin has done wonders for us HER2+ gals as far as survival. Don't let what you read on the internet scare you. Some of that information is very old. Are you in the U.S.? If you are I highly recommend you call the American Cancer Society. They not only help people going through treatment but they have help for their caregivers as well. The 24/7 free number is: 1.800.277.2345 . If for some reason you are having trouble getting them to return your call be sure to send me a PM. I know people on the inside.
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Beth it's funny ( not haha) but there is a commercial with a woman body trainer thibg and she says I've always watched everything out in my body, excercise all the rime etc. and she says I Never thought I'd get Breast cancer.Something like that My niece and sister always took care of themselves with nutrition and excercise, everthing both got cancer 1 stage 3 and the other stage 4--my cousine never took care of herself got Stage2 and that was years ago and no recurrence still not taking care of herself and then me not really taking care of myself as I got oder and here I am. So my theory is this No one really knows it's just figured it not going to hurt if u really take care of ur'self so if u do get a recurrance at leadt u'r healthy???? And my Dad who never took care of himself ate, drank, didn't even wash fruits and veggies (my mom would have a fit) he's always say u know how much dirt we eat in a lifetime, what's the difference. He was so much fun nd we had him til he was almost 97 so That's just a handful of people that I'm talking about--so as I say it is what it is. I know my attitude is a little quirky but that's how I think.
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Iago, thank you so much for your kind and positive words. I really needed to hear that. The statistics online are extremely scary...I have read them once and I refuse to read more about it. They are probably so generalized and so outdated. I am not from the U.S., I am from Canada (Toronto)...my mom and I have joined a cancer support group and I am also talking to a professional about my fear and anxiety. It seems to help because I'm not bottling things up inside, however I just feel that it's hard for someone to completely understand how you feel and the amount of fear that runs through you unless they have personally been through this. Talking to someone is definitely helping though, I just think it is gonna take some time since this was very traumatic for me. Thank you soooo much for your encouraging words though.

Also, I have a question for any ladies who may be reading this. If they can give their input or share their personal stories that would be great. This week is my mom's last week of rads. She is very burned (which is normal, she basically has most of the skin side effects)...other side effects she is experiencing is rib and collar bone tenderness. The RO is not concerned and said this is normal for many people, however I am a little freaked out because I have found lots of info online and on the BCO boards about women experiencing rib tenderness, but not so much the collar bone tenderness (I have found a few women and a few sites online). There is only 1 spot on my mom's collar bone that is tender, she says it feels bruised, the same feeling she feels on the ribs in the area being radiated, and it's the reddest and most tender spot on the entire area being radiated. If you look at her from a far distance it looks like a big bruise on her collar bone! Its very noticeable. She says that area hurts more than her underarm...so the pain she is experiencing is most likely due to rads, but of course any little bone pain, or headache etc. scares the crap out of me. If anyone can share their input or even their own personal experience that would be great since I've been a little anxious about that. Thank you so much.
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Jessica first I'd like to say u r a wonderful compassionate Dgtr. and u'r Mom is lucky to have u. U'r mom is thru most of it now which is great and unfortunately with rads being different for most there is some burning and/or raw skin that is completely tender but in time it heals--if the techs or Dr. thinks there is a problem of something being different they will address it. Maybe u can ask about another skin treatment for her, I t can be very uncomfortable, but when herceptin starts it should ease up and herceptin is relatively easier than all that she has had. Maybe u can check with her Drs. for any type of cancer hep is avalable to u--like it is here. Good Luck
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J92
You are an amazing young lady. Being a caregiver is sometimes more difficult than being the patient.0