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  • BayouBabe
    BayouBabe Posts: 1,467
    edited August 2013

    Goldie4040 - my expanders from almost the start gave me problems all the way down my one arm. My guess is that it was some how pushing on a nerve or something. Since exchange, that problem is vanished! Hang in there!

  • Dulcigirl
    Dulcigirl Posts: 864
    edited August 2013

    Me too, Goldie.

    I "slept" sitting straight up in the recliner for 4 months. It took about two weeks after exchange, but I can curl up on either side now and it is heavenly!!! Speak up about it though. I had asked about pain a few times. Then DH went to an appointment with me and I went home with a low dose of valium. Ha!! It helped a little but I hate meds and probably didn't take enough.



    I cannot agree strongly enough with what Sweet said regarding communication of YOUR needs. My PS did a fabulous job. But I am struggling with being too big. I had stated my wish initially, but now feel that I should have given a reminder each time or asked how they could calculate to keep me closer to my original size. Just 1) Know what you want. 2) Clearly state what you want. 3) Be prepared for something slightly different because they DO have to make a judgement call during surgery when you are sound asleep. My awesome PS made the call that gave great shape and projection. Had he known my personality a bit better he may have opted for the smaller size. I'm working on adjusting. But...I like the shape and they look and feel quite natural. Personally, I think they look better than the empty originals.

  • Katlebbie
    Katlebbie Posts: 722
    edited August 2013

    Runnermom I hope things get better for you soon.

  • Chinneymae
    Chinneymae Posts: 173
    edited August 2013

    Well, guys, I went to Charleston today for my pre-op appointment. He said that the redness on my right foob did not look like an infection. He thinks it may be a reaction to the allederm. He said that the allederm blends into the skin and becomes a part of the skin. Sometimes when it is doing this you can get a reaction and it should go away. He said to continue the anti-biotic anyway as a precaution. The surgery is still on go for next Wednesday the 28th. He said he didn't think I would have drains, but couldn't promise that. He told me he would go as large as he could and be safe. Making sure the sutures will not try to come open. Praying for a good outcome.



    Runnermom: I hope you are better soon. hugs

  • andrea623
    andrea623 Posts: 572
    edited August 2013

    Chinneymae, that has to be a relief to hear! Glad your PS doesn't think there's an infection and your surgery is still on for next week. It'll be here before you know it! I'll be thinking of you, and hoping for a great outcome.

  • Rose63
    Rose63 Posts: 91
    edited August 2013

    Chinneymae - So glad the redness is probably not going to be an issue, and that your surgery is still on for next week! YAY!!! What a relief for you. 

    Runnermom - how are you doing? Hope the fever has broken and you're feeling better.

  • lala1
    lala1 Posts: 974
    edited August 2013

    Goldie--I woke up from UMX in an amazing amount of pain. Even the nurses were running around shouting for more morphin. The trip from recovery to my room was agonizing. I think if you wake up in that much pain, you are in it for the long haul. I had massive muscle spasms that would drop me to the floor leaving me gasping for breath and unable to speak till they passed. At one point I called my PS and asked for a surgery to remove the TE. I was taking alot of meds (so much that I don't remember the first 6 weeks) and I think that didn't help. Eventually it was suggested that I try wearing a mastectomy bra 24/7 and the relief was instantaneous...about 50% decrease in pain! Then my dad (who's an MD) suggested that I cut back on meds and stick with the Flexeril. But I cut the pills in half and took half a pill 3-4 times a day. It allowed me to function/drive while still controlling the pain. I took the Flexeril until 2 months AFTER my exchange surgery. I did not get immediate relief from exchange as my PS assured me. It wasn't until I started weekly PT sessions that I really started to get pain relief and I was able to wean myself off the Flexeril. I'm now 5 months after exchange and feel really good. My shoulder can get tight so I try to stretch my pec muscles every day using a doorway (I try to do it as often as I can throughout the day). I'm getting massages to break up the scar tissue which has been a huge help for pain as well. And I now go to the gym (they have a cheap cancer class) and do circuit training on the weight machines to keep my muscles loose. So....now that I've written a book :).......try adjusting meds, try compression (bra), definitely go to PT and if you can, try massages for myofascial release. It does get better! Hope this helps.

  • sweetandspecial
    sweetandspecial Posts: 1,669
    edited August 2013

    Goldie: I didn't have the lasting pain that lala did but I did need the compression of the surgical bra or a good front hook sports bra for a long time after BMX and even still during expansion.  What sort of bra are you wearing?

  • violet_1
    violet_1 Posts: 335
    edited August 2013

    Group Hug to ALL!



    RunnerMom,

    Praying your fever goes down! Any redness/fever IS definitely something to be concerned about! And my PS doesn't like to use Alloderm unless absolutely necessary...cuz of the body's possible reaction to it. I don't have any, but I'm CERTAIN *I* would've had terrible issues w it IF it had been used on me cuz my skin is super sensitive, in general.

    Chi, I hope your redness resolves.

    Goldie,

    Most of us had an icky painful time of it w our damn TE's!! My L side was always worse--felt more pain w fills--perhaps cuz I have more feeling in that side?...OR I may have a bit of PMPS w that foob. But, most of us also felt waaaay the hell better AFTER exchange! Think positive!...:)

    BRAS: MY PS said whatever is comfy after 2 weeks, including NO bra if I wanted. I've tried tons of bras and I'm actually most comfortable with the Maidenform Demi underwire--it's super soft, but the key is that the underwire goes way the hell around the bottom & side of the foob. Sports bras never worked for me they just seem to smash my boobs down. The only exception being the surgical super loose, surgical cami from the hospital.

    Hang in there everybody and I'm reading this thread and following along with you!

    Violet

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Posts: 404
    edited August 2013

    Lala1

    Funny about the bra.  I learned that trick right away by accident.  If you have something on it tricks the mind that the area should feel tight.  I have one on all the time.  I only take my pain meds at night.  It is not spasms for me, it's the tightness. At first I had spasm, but not too bad.  I am back to working out as much as possible. I have almost full ROM back.  My right shoulder is stiff, and aches in the morning when I get up. I just feel like there is  rope tied around my chest.  I believe it's the alloderm.

    Thanks for caring enough to share your story. I am so glad you are feeling better. Are you happy with your exchange?

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Posts: 404
    edited August 2013

    Sweet, right now i am wearing the Bali 3488, and I love it.  I like that is make the expanders look okay under clothes, and it's so comfortable.

  • mamatwinz
    mamatwinz Posts: 193
    edited August 2013

    goldie..i am happy too!  I had my exchange 4/23 and revision 8/6..and haven't been on much in between/since...  Come to find out at my revision 8/6 that my right rib cage is more concave/bent than my left side which was making my right implant lean to the right over the "hill" of my ribcage! PS said he could not figure it out in revision and would take it out multiple times to examine it and replace only for it to fall/lean to the lateral/right side!  so he widened pocket so it would sit flatter/spread out over "hill".  I was horribly swollen after surgery on right, but I noticed it was immediately 100% better!  he also did fat grafting and that was by far, the worst pain from revision..felt like I was run over by a mack truck!  My ps said he has had a handful of patients in all his years with asymmetrical ribs!  lucky me!  :)  I had expressed my concerns to ps regarding issues that I had with how i looked in clothes.  However in ps office, unclothed, I looked ok (he said great!).  I questioned whether to have revision or not..etc..BUT I can tell you that my at my post op appt, my ps says, so to be completely honest with you, i did not really see the extent of what you were saying until you were in the OR lying flat and I looked at you from angle of head to toes and then from toes to head and I could see immediately what you were saying about the right side!!  holy validation, batman!  So have faith in what you see/experience and tell your ps!

    Also, although my implants were plan B, I am so happy with them; they are very "me" only bigger/fuller than pre bmx.  My PS knew me pretty well from our conversations (talking about things other than surgery..) and he questioned me on my last TE fills..are you sure?  You said you did not want to be too big..you do not want to be all boobs up top... etc  I did get caught up in bigger is better and just kept going...  It is a tough decision, but just as others have said..be clear..and repeat yourself at each visit.  I brought pics too..he wasn't too interested in them, but I said I do not like these, these are too big, too small..etc.  My TEs were too wide and I said I do not want to be wide like this..etc.  I have not gotten fitted yet, but will probably this or next weeked to see what size I truly am.  I think my sister looks like a D, but she says she looks like a C and would maybe have wanted to be bigger and I think she is crazy!  so your idea of a C and your ps may be completely different, so pics can help your ps see what you want to see??  Good luck!

  • sweetandspecial
    sweetandspecial Posts: 1,669
    edited August 2013

    Goldie and mama: When I got fitted at Nordies I wasn't too surprised just because of what I've learned here.  Joanne measured me as a 36DD or DDD, depends on the make/style.  Now, when I look at myself in the mirror I see a C.  I shared (show and tell) with a younger co-worker today who had seen my TEs and was interested in the implant look and she said 'omg, you look huge!' (that's the naked boobs with a couple steri-strips still attached).   So, naked she thinks I look huge, but fully clothed I look just like my old self.  Guess it's all a matter of perspective.....

  • di2012
    di2012 Posts: 871
    edited August 2013

    I had my my implants in April and revision in July and I was so so pleased at the results....even shared my pics with a few ladies here, the results WERE miraculous...BUT about 3 1/2 weeks post revision, with swelling going down, I began to see my "Z" (when I look in the mirror) returnCry....so I have a cleavage on one side and NOTHING (down to BONE on upper pole) on the other.  No V necks, swim suits, or scoop neck tops

    I saw my PS today for my second  follow up today and he said I do need fat transfer, which may help....(I have plenty of fat on my legs/thighs).....so looks like surgery (#5) is in my future...maybe Oct.

    Bra fitting/shopping is NOT in my future for now.

    I sometimes feel that if I had my TE placed at time of BMX things would be different, but my PS said NO, he didn't want to risk infection!

    Di

  • sweetandspecial
    sweetandspecial Posts: 1,669
    edited August 2013

    Oh Di, so sorry you have more disappointment Cry.  But thank goodness there's still work that can be done to improve things.  If/when your PS says sorry, that's the best I can do, then it'll be time for a 2nd opinion.

    I have to say, the three bras I did buy are non-wired and I don't really care for them long-term.  WAY too much coverage for me.  I've been wearing plunge type underwires for years and years so I can't wait to get to my Nordie's wish list when I get the all clear.

    Hang in there honeybun, keep your chin up!

  • Dulcigirl
    Dulcigirl Posts: 864
    edited August 2013

    Sweetand special,

    May I ask what brand your 3 non-wires are? I'm conducting an experiment and wearing my post-op compression bra for a few days. I seem to be having less pain. In a couple of days I'll go back to my underwires and see what happens. If the pain comes back I'll be heading to Nordstroms for some non-wires. Bummer, since I already have a nice tiny collection of underwires started....

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Posts: 404
    edited August 2013

    Mamatwinz

    Interesting about your ribcage. Who would have thought?  I am glad you had a surgeon who listened, and you are happy now.  Why were implants plan B?  Just curious.

    Sweetandspecial, I bet you are still a little bit swollen, no?

  • andrea623
    andrea623 Posts: 572
    edited August 2013

    Oh Di, I'm sorry that the results of your revision weren't what you hoped for. Even though it's never fun looking at another surgery, many women have had wonderful results from fat grafting. I know you have confidence in your PS and hopefully she'll give you great results in the fall. Hugs to you!

    I'm now 6 weeks out from exchange. Righty, the rads side, has a divot in it. In my Bali bra, it looks fine though, and even though I haven't had as much surgery as some, I just don't want to have anymore. I find it very hard to recover, and even now, get fatigued very easily. Maybe in the future I'll change my mind, but honestly, I just don't want to push my luck with my radiated skin.

  • violet_1
    violet_1 Posts: 335
    edited August 2013

    Dulci,

    I'm certain you could sell the bras if need be, as sad as that is, to someone here or somewhere else. Unfortunately, you can't sell them to ME beause I'm Way the Hell smaller than you--darn!!..;) pfffftttt!

  • mnsusan
    mnsusan Posts: 139
    edited August 2013

    Dulcigirl, I posted this on the bra thread but it might be helpful to you here. None of my new Nordies bras are underwire but they act like it. The first one listed has a stay pretty far back on the side and I'm finding it the most comfortable. These Style 45s are wide! PS said I could wear whatever I wanted to and these were the most comfy.



    "Thirty minutes with Leslie, the kind and competent bra fitter at Nordstrom, and I'm back in business. I got three lovely 36DDs to start me off. An Amoena Lara SB 0674 for everyday, a Wacoal Sport style 856114 for a sport bra, and a Chantelle 1241 for dress up. I'm a happy camper."

  • Dulcigirl
    Dulcigirl Posts: 864
    edited August 2013

    Thank you!!!

  • Dulcigirl
    Dulcigirl Posts: 864
    edited August 2013

    Wow. Just went to Herroom and Bare Necessities and did a search for wireless in my size. My choices are sports bras or nursing bras.



    Isn't THAT special??!!!

  • BayouBabe
    BayouBabe Posts: 1,467
    edited August 2013

    Dulcigirl - Kohl's (if there is one near you in the US) carries several styles of Bali bras that work wonderful for wire free. Not quite as pretty as the underwire bras, but some fun colors are available.

  • sweetandspecial
    sweetandspecial Posts: 1,669
    edited August 2013

    Dulcigirl: one is an Amoena Dana SB 0862.  I actually like that one best because it has a lacy inset at the top that makes it look like I've got a lacy chemise layered under my scoop neck shirts.  The other two are Wacoal 85276 (no fancy model name on the tag), just two different colors.  They're ok but the coverage in front is just way too high for most of my summer things and I feel like I'm wearing something my grandmother would have worn in the 50s or something.  Not really THAT bad, I was just accustomed to much less coverage and will be happy to tuck these in the back of the drawer when UWs are approved.  One still has the tag attached so I could probably return it.

    Goldie:  I really didn't have much swelling.  The drain tubes came out at 3 days and didn't really produce much fluid right from the start anyway.  There wasn't much pocket work at all so I think that's probably why.  I read here about some ladies that go home wrapped up like mummies with ace bandages and all and I just didn't have that.  Just the surgical bra with gauze pads over the incisions, and the drain tubes.  I've noticed a slight reduction in size since surgery but not much really.

  • Dulcigirl
    Dulcigirl Posts: 864
    edited August 2013

    Thanks, Bayou...I'm a frequent flyer at Kohl's but they don't carry bras in my new size. :-(



    Sweet...I'll look those up.



    Thank you both!



  • di2012
    di2012 Posts: 871
    edited August 2013

    Ladies I have always had great service with Freshpair.com.....they have some of the bras mentioned, IF you know your size

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Posts: 404
    edited August 2013

    Sweet, the is great. As long as you are happy the size you are that's all that counts. 

    Nobody talks much about projection. I have heard some women complain about the hamburger bun look, and other's are happy. Any imput on this?

  • violet_1
    violet_1 Posts: 335
    edited August 2013

    Macys also has Special Professional Bra Fitting days...

    One coming up soon...

    My bra fitter was very helpful the day I went to one of those.

  • runnermom1956
    runnermom1956 Posts: 30
    edited August 2013

    thank you all  for worrying about me. I ended up with a high fever (102.4) and went to the hopsital. When the PS examined me he felt the foobs werre where they should be at their healing point, no unecessary redness or not too swollen for what we have just been thru but when he listened to me chest he heard congestion in there and ordered a chest x ray(which I am STILL waiting for results of..no news is good news???) He also put me on amoxicillon , 10 day course and hinted that I should follow up on the fever and cough with my PCM, not him. (Army hospital..passing the buck) anyway..yesterday I literally slept ALL day. My fever has gone down again and I am using the spirometer the PS sent home with me, but there's something NOT right within me...something's "off". I feel bad. I sent another msg this A.M to my PCM on results of x ray and told them how I feel about being pushed aside when this coud develop into a serious condition and no one seems to want to deal with me.! I am sick and tired of feeling sick and tired...I start school on Sept 3 and HOPE this is all a distant memory buy then and I regain my strength!

    HUGS to you all for your healing thoughts and your kindness. I really appreciate it!

    runnermom

  • mamatwinz
    mamatwinz Posts: 193
    edited August 2013

    Dulci, I have no underwire bra with.good support that my ps okay'd after exchange in April. I have worn it until revision in august because so comfortable and wear it to bed too! It is why I never git around to getting measured at nordstroms! My ps ok'd me to wear again just a week after revision and its been great again. It is not sexy, but ultra comfortable, so good for me right now! It is by Bali..I'll look for name and send to u.. :).

    Goldie, plan was style 45s ranging from 475-550cc with back up to be sientra anatomicals round base 425cc..the largest they make in that high projection base. My skin was paper thin and when ps put in 45s, it was too much stress on my skin and he said it was only a matter of time before they would fall/migrate..so he went with plan b, the sientras, which have great projection less cc volume 425cc vs 550cc.. our only initial hesitation with using sientras as first choice was max size of only 425cc..and I wanted c cup..not sure if it would get me there..my TEs were filled to 500cc. I will let u know what I measure at nordstroms..I have also lost about 10 pounds... :). M itching to get back to working out once ps clears me.. :). Hope this helps! :). Have a good day guys!