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  • SusanK. Sorry you are having to join us. And i am so so sorry about losing your friend to BC. It is a nasty nasty disease. i am on my first go-but am taking a long and winding road. I do not have much to offer for your path-but sending hugs and prayers. I can send book titles, movies, and TV show options.

    It is COLD in NM. Yesterday 9 and today 10 when I got up! Freezing despite heat blasting on high, a fire blazing, and toasty flannel PJs. Fed my > than 100 year old sour dough starter a couple days ago and will have bread baking soon. 

    Heard that my #$% of an ex-husband is essentially living in another state. Property settlement starting soon-to finish in the fall-then no further dealings. He told a friend recently that he "knew I would want to see him on my final day". After she finished choking she had to restrain herself from slapping and punching. As if. Am still looking for a pirate. 

    Hugs and love.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    OK to many Susans one will have to change u'r name----And I am of no help at all--al I know is that I got the red Devil because I peed red that's it--I had almost 2 yrs of different chemos and finished with like 6 more months of Herceptin. Hell I've been going to a Card for over a yr and just found out I have an aneurism , he insisted he told me, but I don't listen, I think about did I tape a show I want to watch, like I said I've had D for 6 and 1/2 yrs every test and procedure has been done, and I just go along--I get a test next week to make sure the an is still the same--and echo so when she called I said OK, Ok ok and this woman started laughing like she never heard that before Well anyway the new Susan I'm sorry u'r back here but like I said these women are phenominal (sp) they will guide u all the way. As u can tell I know nothing, in fact when I was talking to my Card aout my sleep proble, I assured him I was not a necrophiliac (sp) believe me I knew the second I said it I knew that wasn't the right word, but after he got control of himself he understood wht I meant. So I'm not good at Dr. things.

    And the old Susan yea I bet u can't wait to see him, go that last time with a gorgeous guy on u'r arm and smile like u really mean it.

  • cypher
    cypher Posts: 447





    Pbrain, I take integrative therapeutics brand lipoic acid,
    and I definitely notice less joint pain and tingling when I remember to take
    it.

    Congrats Dance.  I
    want to hear nothing but good news on this thread!! 

    Ben, so sorry to hear about your wife.  26!!!  Geez
    that blows.

    Susan, oh that sucks. 
    I’m so sorry you have to go through all this, and sorry about your friend. There are a few of us single ladies on this
    forum, so I hear ya on that one.  In terms of the drugs, most of
    the women on this thread are earlier stage, so you might look at the stage IV
    forums for some of the other drugs.   Taxotere/carboplatin/herceptin is the standard protocol for her2+ women so most of us did that regimen, including me.  It wasn't exactly fun times but it was doable.  I work for myself out of my home and I was
    able to work the whole time, though I did pare down my schedule a bit.  Are you getting perjeta?  I also did the cold caps and kept my hair.   My advice – lots and lots of water,
    lots and lots of protein, probiotics, and force yourself to exercise. My SEs weren’t too bad—it could have been
    that, or it could have just been luck. 
    Hopefully it obliterated every shred of the beast, anyway.




  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    BTW I think someone earlier mentioned something about the higher percent of hormone positive the more likely the ESD/EBD will work. I would think size also has to be a factor. In my case my tumor was only 30% ER positive but the invasive part of my tumor is 5.5cm. That means that 1.65cm of my tumor was hormone positive. That's like a 2cm tumor being 83% ER positive (or a 1.65 cm being 100% ER positive).

    When discussing percentage size also needs to be discussed. Knowing this is the reason why I'm still on this ESD that is now also a BSD (Bone Sucking Drug) due to osteoporosis now.

    Edited

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    Lago my BSD has sucked pieces out of my vertabrae and discs, plus all the other osteos, the pain is just so horrible, I do my PT and I count as my cat watches me (she watches each movement) when I'm done she usually massages my LE arms very gently like in PT--I swear she knows--but I am much older so my bones would be more degenerative anyway but still to go fro moderate to severe in 3 months is a little telling.

    And I will announce now no more tests will I go thru for my Diarr. ever--after  more than 6and 1/2 yrs of every procedure and test I still have it (like today) so my life will officially be filled with crap and I have already learned to live with it, now I will just accept it. LOL

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    Well camillegal if we all weren't so full of shit maybe we wouldn't have our crappy problems. (I'm and IBS with C instead of D that I handle mostly with diet). Gastrointestinal things are tough to figure out. Sometimes they never do. I mean I have IBS so great I know what it is but who cares if you can't fix it and there's not a lot I can do about it.

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    onetexas - if you are pre-menopausal your options are Tamoxifen, or suppression of your ovarian function and an AI.  I know that some docs will test you to see if you are a metabolizer of Tamoxifen - which might help determine if it is a useful drug for you individually - but some feel that this testing process is inaccurate.  It is important to note that many people take hormonal therapy with limited side effects, and probably don't post about it.  You will see more posts regarding negative side effects because misery loves company, and people are looking for ways to mitigate the SEs or for things that help, so consider that.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    Yes I guess we're stuck with what we're stuck with, but it is somewhat embarrassing when I'm out and even tho I wear depends it goes thru, cuz mine is explosive so when I'm with people I just stand there no sense in moving it's worse hahaha--the really bad part is I'm not as embarrassed as I used to be so I come across really gross LOL 

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    Shit explosions I guess I'm the one then that is full of shit not you. Loopy


  • Thanks for all the great information ... love these boards!

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Posts: 5,945

    Cami. I'm with you on the sh*tty aspects.of D!  With the slow mag i take its a wee bit better in that if I'm home i have time to run to the bathroom. If i don't ignore that 1st moment i make it there. But if i try to wait even a bit, there's another load (lol) of laundry. LOL gastrointestinal issues are something I would wish on no one! Much love

  • Lago ~ Are you sure that you didn't mean that someone mentioned that HIGHER percentages of ER+ = more benefit/ better response from tamoxifen or AI? Only asking because I would hope I would be getting some good benefit from tamoxifen for my 100% ER+ tumor that was removed! :~)

    Texas ~ I have been on Tamoxifen for almost a month, as well as Zoladex injections, which is also an option instead of Zoladex with an AI, and so far I am doing alright. I do tend to stay active and try to exercise and I think that helps, but I could be wrong. I do have some warm flashes, mostly whenever I get "emotional" and I have a little bit of joint pain, but that's what the exercise really helps. I think SpecialK is right, most of the people who post on these boards about tamoxifen are here asking for reassurance about side effects, the people that aren't having them just aren't posting. The reason for Zoladex with tamoxifen instead of an AI is this, tamoxifen protects the bones, the AIs really harm them. In addition to that the results aren't in yet on the SIFT study, which is testing which is better tamixifen alone v. tamoxifen + zoladez v. AI + zoladex.

    As for me, I have my radiation simulation next week and I am TERRIFIED! It seems like whenever something new is about to start I go into a pretty rapid anxiety spiral. So scared of the sim {I have never been in a CT machine}. So scared of rads destroying my skin and hurting my chances of recon being successful. BUT more scared of not getting rads and increasing my chances of local recurrence. I was really enjoying feeling "normal" between surgery and this - if normal can be considered having at least one appointment every.single.week, getting herceptin, obsessing about the chances of LE, taking tamoxifen and receiving zoladex injections! Ha, so funny what's "normal" now. Sigh. Stupid cancer.

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    Yup my dyslexia kicked in. I'll go update that.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    Sorry Mama u have to go thru all this... For most I don't think there's a new normal, I just call it what's next.

    Moon it's an awful feeling t least when I'm home I don't make it to the bathroom, but I'm home there are no feelings or signs that I have to go, it just explodes out, At least now I get it mybe a day or 2 at a time, but a couple of times I had it for weeks spending that time in the hospital, it was constant and they still couldn't figure it out. Whatever meds I have been given don't do much good, I do notice I get extremely exhausted and my electrolytes are all off I do take potassium and mag all the time tho, so that helps a bit--It's just funny that no one can figure this out.

  • I just love this group. Anyone can say anything. Before BC and the horrid drugs I thought my IBS and the Big D and constipation was as bad as it got. HA! Now how the rules have changed! I never eat in my car-no matter how long the trip might be. Do not eat soup prior to getting in the car-be it 10 minutes or 10 hours. Same for a milk shake type drink. 3-4 days of nothing. Then I might as well move into the bathroom. I have actually pulled a blanket and pillow in there on the really rough days/nights. And that was before BC and the drugs.....

    Much love to each

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    Susan again I say there are no rules with this horrid disease.

  • Pbrain
    Pbrain Posts: 773

    Cami and Moon, I am your exploding sister!  But I seriously am finding some relief with Florastor, the yeast probiotic that Dance suggested.  I've been super amazed that I can feel that burning urge and just wait for 15-20 minutes before taking care of it.  I'm only about 30 days into taking it, so I'm impressed.  Depends are more expensive! Loopy  And washing your pants out in the toilet at work (like I did this summer) before crawling in to get your purse and car keys is seriously embarrassing. 

    OneTXDay, don't worry too much about the SEs with the hormonal therapies.  I've read that many oncologists believe they are more important than chemo for prevention of recurrence (and maybe the development of new tumors) in hormone + BC, so I am sticking with my arimidex.  I started last August and by Halloween was having some super painful stuff going on in my feet (which never hurt) and stiffness after sitting or sleeping.  By Thanksgiving, I was limping and had to wear my gardening Crocs to even walk during the day.  

    My NP said hang in there, it will get worse before it gets better.  It did!  If you look back a bit, by Christmas I was hobbling and could barely ride public transit in Philly during my visit home because I couldn't get on the bus or train easily.  Now I'm doing so much better.  My NP said give them at least 3/4 of a year before switching to another brand or type.  Currently only my knees hurt, but feet, hips and shoulders are back to normal.  I'm taking osteo-biflex and GrandmaV on these boards reminded me to get back on fish oil.  These have both helped so much.  So cross that bridge when you come to it knowing we'll all have some suggestions for you!

  • Pbrain
    Pbrain Posts: 773

    Twin, relax.  The sim is bizarre and kind of fun.  They make your mold by laying you on a pillow filled with styrofoam beads.  When they feel you are in a good position, they suck all the air out of it and that is your mold for the entire treatment.  The CT scanner is no big deal (at least for this major claustrophobe) because your head sticks out of it.   They might lay some BB's over certain areas, and then your RO will come in and help align things (based on where your organs are--mostly your heart and lungs, because they can see them with the CT).  The goal is to line you up each day with the information they have to make sure the least amount of radiation is hitting those organs.

    Next, for me they just marked me up and up and up with a Sharpie and stuck some stickies on me.  I never got tattooed, but my boss did and she says it's not a big deal.  

    After that, just use the deodorant and skin products they tell you to.  You'll see your RO once a week and I promise you they have lots of ways to prevent your skin from breaking down or getting nasty.  It is a different kind of wave energy than the sun, so even if you are prone to sunburn, you might do just fine with radiation.  My RO told me he saw his African American patients might struggle with skin issues more than his pale Caucasian patients.  

    You've made it through the tough part, so do your best to just get through this.  For me, it wasn't so bad, but I was tired.  You will be too, so carve out some time for sleep!

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Posts: 5,945

    Pbrain. I don't know if you were on the board when I sent my new $300 keys straight down the toilet from rinsing my pants out..... i cried a lot about that one. And I am grateful that we can share everything! No matter how bizarre or gross! LOL

    OneTX, I've been on ARIMIDEX since Aug of 2012. I hurt in the mornings especially. But i have joint problems from arthritis anyway. It's no different than I had before but possibly a bit worse especially with bad weather. But I'll stuck with ARIMIDEX because who knows what another AI would do. I'm used to pain. I take tramadol on a daily basis for the bone on bone pain in my knees. 

    Twin, I've never had rads but I've  seen a lot of the people go through it on these boards and most come through fine. So i hope you will be one too! 

    Much love to all. 

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    I remember rads as being like a mini vacay from chemo--one time I was with my RO--who I really liked and the phone rang and he told me it was my BS and I heard his end of the conversation and he told my BS he was with me and I heard yes I know, Oh rally yep, I do--OK talk to u later, and I said he told u I was crazy right--he started LOLing and looked at me and said yes he did, but u wouldn't mind it. The problem was no one took me very seriously until I was really showing signs of something. Oh well, that still seems to be my problem.

  • Haven't been on my favorite board for a while, but just came across this info....

    WOW......Great News for the Triple Positive Subtype!!!!

    http://www.abstracts2view.com/sabcs13/viewp.php?nu...

  • LizA17
    LizA17 Posts: 102

    That is great news Ella..thank you for posting!

  • Thanks for posting! I love seeing that science!

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    and now for some laughs: www.utrend.tv/v/cat-dog/

  • ben50
    ben50 Posts: 13

    Whoa! Better DFS than HR+/HER2- ?? That blows my mind right there. It kind of validates this article for me from a couple months ago. 

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/10/28/441459...

    “It used to be the worst,” Boyd said of the prognosis years back for those with HER2-positive. “We call it going from worst to first. (Now) it’s the one you want to have.”

    Worst to first. I say it a lot to me self when I need a boost. Thanks a lot for the link!!

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Posts: 5,945

    I hope the understanding of Her+++ will help them find better tx for all the other subtypes! May it happen fast! We are losing to many wonderful people to this ugly disease! 

  • Pbrain
    Pbrain Posts: 773

    Lago, that video cracks me up!  And it is so true.  I have one dog (she was here first) and one cat (he came later).  The dog outweighs the cat and is a total alpha creature, but somehow has given up and let the cat run the house.  Snooze

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    Hahaha----Our cat was first and we have a good size dog, but that cat would not let the dog take over and the dog got it really fast--now there is no problem but at first my cat would go right up to the dog (for no reason) and slap him across the face and hiss--she never had to do it again.

  • honeybair
    honeybair Posts: 234

    Lago, loved the video.   Thanks for bringing us some joy.

  • Love the video. My 18 year old cat essentially took over the guest room-the dogs are not allowed past the door. Ever. When she enters the den the dogs are banished to the yard with one shrill meow. 

    The worst to first is nice-except for those who were taken off Herceptin due to heart issues. My surgeon tells me that 20 of the 52 weeks would be fine in Norway. I get really anxious when thinking about having my port removed. I set a target date for this summer @ the 2 year mark. If I am still on one of th estrogen sucking or estrogen blocking drugs. And have not given up due to side effects.