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Well, the NP did a thorough breast exam on her, as did a doc. Said it's the size of a pea, and just under the skin, so they think it is nothing. They told her it couldn't hurt to have an ultrasound just to make sure. And resourceful person that she is, she sent a text picture of the lump to my NP practitioner friend that she sees who told her she didn't think based on location and look that it was anything other than a cyst also, but suggested she see a dermatologist to rule out a skin cancer.
I think she is going to do both.
I told we she could come home to see my BS, but she is going to do the ultrasound I. NYC I honk.
Thanks for all the great support.
My rib area is really painful. Nothing showed on the X-ray a few months a go, but it is getting worse, especially when I exercise. Hurts to touch also. A lot. And my armpit on that same side feels weird. Not painful but like there is just something there. I don't feel anything different. Emailed the PS who has offered to do an MRI. He does them at three years (when implants were placed) routinely, and I am 8 months away from that. I was hoping to hold off but might have to take him up on it. Going to mention it to my ONC at yoga tomorrow night, and get his thoughts.
And I am over winter, the cold, snow, hot flashes, and weight gain. Feeling cranky.
I'm glad I weaned myself off Effexor, as they say now that it too interacts with tamoxifen, but I could use a good anti anxiety pill about now!
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fluff - come visit me in Florida - I don't have any anti-anxiety meds, but I do have some sunshine and warmth!
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Pbrain, I'm happy that your mom is okay. I know what you mean about worrying more about others than yourself, my sister's cancer terrified me in a totally different way than my own. But she's a six-year survivor now and I'm at 1.5 years...
I finished Herceptin five weeks ago and I am already feeling the difference in my fatigue level. I've been training for a triathlon and even though I'm really fit, just climbing a flight of stairs would cause an intense burn in my legs like I was doing interval training or something. And every workout required a lot more warm up time to get my blood flowing to my muscles but now that is gone - yay!
It's crazy the detail you all get on your pathology reports - mine said "strongly positive" for ER/PR and HER2++. And no oncotype scores here either, just cell grade in order to assess aggressiveness and make the determination about whether to proceed with chemo. I wonder how much difference all the information makes in ultimate treatment decision. More Canadians having unnecessary chemo?
I'm just checking in, I read often but not much to add. Oh, my daughter started walking on the weekend! That's how far we've come.

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Marlene, she's adorable!
Fluff I'm sure it will be nothing. And why Waite for your MRI? Just do it.
Much love.
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Here is what the doc wrote. I'm trying to convince her to come home for the ultrasound. It is a pain in the butt to try to help her coordinate it in NYC when she has no docs there and all I can do is try to cross reference our insurance with the doc and ob gyn. For the 250 it would cost for her to fly round trip and see my BS with the ultrasound, it would be worth it!
Marlene she is adorable! I am taking my almost three years old great niece to see Frozen tomorrow. Her first movie. Should be interesting!
Special K I would love to come. I was just there in January and have to head to Winston Salem around the first of April again. I need to sell some houses!
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Yay Pbrain.
Fluff I'm going with that thing Pbrain said.
Marlene, cute kid.
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PBrain Good news.
Marlene she's beautiful.
Fluff just get it done.
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Marlene, she is a doll baby! Adorable!
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marlene, she is a cutie pie!
pbrain, glad all is ok with your mom.
fluff, praying you and your daughter can get some definitive answers.
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fluff - sell some houses and then come on down! I hate that our daughters have to have that last line about family history now - ours are about the same age.
marlene - what a beautiful baby - I miss having little ones!
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Fluff fly her down. You want to be there anyway. Tell her is for your sake. She probably wants that too but is trying to be brave and grownup... my daughter actually called me to ask if she should go to the ER when she got a skewer broken off in her heel. I sent her there asap. So i flew up there and she had to have sx to remove it. Sometimes they need us but don't want to feel like a baby.
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Marlene, your daughter is such a cutie! I am so glad you mentioned the "burn" you were feeling in your legs when climbing a flight of stairs - good to know I'm not the only one! I finished Herceptin in mid-September, but I'm still feeling that "burn". I'm a lot older than you and not in such good shape, although I do go to the gym 3 times a week and do moderate exercise. But I don't seem to be getting any better as far as stamina. I saw my MO yesterday and we discussed it. He says it could still be residual effects of the chemo, but really didn't know. He suggested trying acupuncture, so I'm going to do that. Anyone else have acupuncture? Did it help whatever you were getting it for?
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patin, i personally think that it must be the tamoxifen. i have to change my profile, but in the last week of of november, i got to start a 8 week tamoxifen break, because i was experiencing the same toxities as i had while on arimidex. one of my major complaints to my onc was serious fatigue. and it took about three weeks, and i started feeling some energy & enthusiasm & joy returning to my life! and i felt my creative juices begin to return, too. i have gotten very excited about things again, and was loving it, but. a little scared about how i may be harming myself unintentionally by not having the protective benefits of it. so now i am on femara for 5 days now. so far, so good.
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kathec, I actually took a 1 month break from Tamoxifen to see if that would help - but nothing changed, so I went back on it. However, when I saw the MO yesterday he suggested that I stop Tamoxifen because he doesn't think it's doing anything for me. My tumor was 5mm, my ER+ was only 26%, and I was very highly HER2+. He thinks that the Herceptin did the trick for any stray cancer cells that might have been roaming around. Last October when I saw him we had a discussion about Tamoxifen for me, and he showed me some research analyzing its effectiveness by ER+ percentages. People in the bottom quartile of ER+ (i.e. me) got little if any benefit. However, they did find LCIS during my lumpectomy (although not in the biopsy) and supposedly Tamoxifen helps with that, so I decided at that time to keep taking it. I forgot to bring up the LCIS issue yesterday. I see him again in 4 months and will remember to bring that up. Also, my fingernails are a mess (splitting, cracking, peeling) and he and the NP think that might be the Tamoxifen. So we'll see how it goes for the next 4 months.
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Hi,
I am new to this site and had a question about Tamoxifen. I have triple pos IDC and had a bmx and TCH. I am currently on Herceptin and my onco wants me to take Tamoxifen. I was suppose to start it over a month ago, but I really just don't want to take it. I have just recently overcame some of the terrible side effects of chemo and I do not have any desire to revisit them (being hormonal, thinning hair, weight gain, dryness). My onco is on my case pretty hard about Tamoxifen being important, but I feel like quality of life is just as important.. Am I crazy for not taking this? I am only 30 and don't have kids so I'm afraid the tamoxifen will effect my already screwed up reproductive system, seeing as my body already thinks I am in menopause. Any thoughts on this subject will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you and God Bless!
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ARae you can try it and quit but if you don't try it you'll never know if the SE are not as bad. A friend of mine was diagnosed with ER+ PR+ DCIS. Because she was concerned with blood clots and other stuff she didn't try it. 2 years later she had IDC. This time (didn't have to do chemo) they had her do Luprin shots to suppress her ovaries so she could take Anastrozole. You might also ask your onc if that's an option for you.
Given that you're 30 there is a chance that your ovaries will repair unless they were removed.
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marlene18
OMG!
What a beautiful child!
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patin, oh, yeah! really my nails are such a mess right now, too. wow. i didnt even equate that with the tamox, but you are right. they were all right during the six months of arimidex, which was the first one that i tried, then a month off, then tamox, then two months off, now femara. i will make it as long as i can!
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Arae-if it is any consolation, my only bad side effects are hot flashes. I didn't want to take tamoxifen either, but now am more worried about what will happen when he switches me to an AI.
Daughter is having the ultrasound tomorrow. She wanted to get it done asap, and if it is anything to worry about, she said she will come home. I think they have her feeling that it really is something like what Pbrain noted. So....I am trying to let her be a big girl, and then, if it is worrisome, I am headed to NYC or she is headed home.
Special K-you are right, when I read that note, kind of hit me in the stomache with the line about mother's diagnosis. Sad to have that trailing you at 25.
I am off to bed hoping that I get more sleep tonight than I did last night.
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fluff - keeping my fingers crossed for both of you! My DH already has my Dx in her medical records too - she will be 25 this summer.
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Pbrain, glad to hear your mom is ok.
Interesting what you say about that lipoma – I have a lymph
node in the groin area that is kind of hard.
The doctors keep saying it doesn’t feel like cancer and that it couldn’t
possibly spread from my right breast to my left groin lymph node, so it would
have to be a lymphoma, i.e. a whole other kind of cancer. We did a needle biopsy and it looked clear,
but they said the only way to tell for sure is to remove it, thereby putting me
at risk for lyphedema in my leg, etc.
But maybe it’s just a lipoma?
Sheesh. Pbrain sometimes I don’t
know what we would do without you.Fluff, I concur, get it checked out. I am myself anxious about pain in my left
lower leg, which could be for a bunch of reasons but I worry … I need to stop
procrastinating and email my doctor. You
and me both, eh?Marlene, she is adorable.
Arae, I agree with Lago – you might as well try it. Also you didn’t indicate anything about your
diagnosis so it’s hard to say. Also, how
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cypher remember that % positive is also dependent on the size of the tumor. My tumor was only 30% ER+ but 30% of 5.5cm (that's only the invasive part) is 1.6cm. That's bigger than some tumors that are 100% positive.
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Lago, interesting. I didn't know that. I thought of it as the percentage of cancer cells that were er positive, which I guess could equate to 30% of your tumor size come to think of it...
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I miss Nicky, I hope she's doing all right.
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Hello fellow Triple Positives. I'm newly joining, so please forgive me if I'm asking topics already covered by this proliferic group.
1 Perjeta - I'm taking it. MO think that chemical burns/blisters on my face are from the Perjeta. Anyone else experience this?
2. I'm worried about Tamoxifen / HER2+ crosstalk. What do I need to have tested to find out whether I'm in danger? What are the markers?
3. My MO is planning to start me on Tamoxifen right after TCHP (during the continued H). Any tips for what to take/avoid with Tamoxifen? It looks like you've been discussing Vitamin D, but I wasn't sure whether it is recommended, and whether there is anything else recommended.
4. I had read that the aromitase inhibitors perform better than Tamoxifen. I'm pre-menopausal (but done having children), so do not qualify. Why do I not seem to hear recommendations to take out the ovaries and use the aromatase inhibitors? I've read that Tamoxifen increases risk of uteran and ovarian cancer - why not just take everything out, avoid Tamoxifen and go straight to the aromatase inhibitors? I know that there is osteoporosis risk with the aromitase. Is this why? Why is ovary abilation hardly mentioned? It must do something bad that I'm not aware of.
Thank you ladies for any incite!
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formydaughter - how old are you? The impact of early menopause can be more significant the younger you are, IMO.
For those who are still premenopausal, some docs will shut down the ovaries with injections and then give AI's. Some will suggest ovary removal and then AI's. I would suggest fully investigating the side effects of ovarian removal before doing that. You can't go back once you do it. It can cause significant sexual dysfunction for some, and if you are young the damage from bone loss is also not to be underestimated. PM TonLee if you want to know more about ovarian removal and the side effects associated with it. She also did a ton of research on the topic.
Although I could not stay on Tamoxifen due to developing multiple polyps, it was my first choice due to being younger and not wanting to risk the side effects above. I would have preferred to stay on Tamoxifen if I could have. I did well on it otherwise. Now I am waiting for my system to clear of all the drug effects and will be tested to see if I perhaps have become menopausal and could do an AI without needing the shots to shut down my ovaries.
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formydaughter - I would investigate Lupron injection and an AI before oophorectomy if you are young - as dance said - you can't go back once you remove the ovaries and they do provide some positives physiologically - such as bone strength and keeping cholesterol under control, even though they also increase risk. It is a complicated decision. There is a metabolizing test you can take to see if Tamoxifen works for you, but some docs are suspect of its accuracy. It is called CYP2D6 metabolizing, if you are a good metabolizer Tamoxifen works well for you, if you are not, it doesn't.
Linked is a list of drugs that Tamoxifen interacts with, the ones many BC patients are concerned with are the anti-depressants some people need for SE:
We have been discussing Vit D as many BC patients are at low levels at Dx so many of us supplement with OTC or prescription D.
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formydaughter a friend of mine is doing the Luprin shots with Anastrozole. She can't take the Tamoxifen due to blood clots. She seems to be doing fine on it.
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Cami, I know, I've been thinking about Nicky and wondering how she's doing... Hopefully too busy celebrating some good news?
formydaughter, not too many of us have been on perjeta, you might check the stage IV boards. it's new for them to be giving it to early stage people. In fact I did chemo in fall of 2012 and I was on a clinical trial to see it's efficacy for early stage people to prevent recurrence. Unfortunately I suspect I was in the placebo group : ( So anyway I can't advise.
If you do ask your dr about that test, I'd be interested in what he/she says. MO says that he does not believe it is sufficiently reliable and the alternatives are, he believes, quite draconian (shutting down or removing my ovaries). I'm in my late 40s but he said I really wouldn't like those alternatives.... do you know what percent er/pr+ you are?
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